JESUS, the Holy Spirit, the Only True God.

[101G]

Already shoot that down like lame duck.


Well I'm glad you figured it out....God does not have a Father....did it take both hands? But Yeshua had a mother and a Father. Not sure if you have read John 3:16....I recommend reading the whole chapter it might steer you in the right direction.



Are you thinking this occurs during the biblical era or up to now?



God the Father, God the Son, God the Holy Spirit....united in purpose as the Godhead....not Tri-oneity....Tri-unity.
Or as Christ explained when He was talking to His Father.....
John 17:22 “And the glory which to them; that they may be one just as We are one.” Because Yeshua says “just as” this is an exactness, a duplication of a condition that we can achieve, and He states that this condition of “oneness” can apply to us, but it has nothing to do with absorption or singularity, but rather a condition of spiritual union and solidarity between God and us. The next verse further defines this by describing a unity with Christ that would cause the same condition with us as it did with them, a condition of perfection. Again, not talking to Himself, in John 17:23 “I in them, and You in Me, that they may be perfected in unity, that the world may know that You did send Me, and do love them, even as you do love Me.” In this context millions of people could be made one...one being a abstract concept of one, but a more literal meaning of unity, solidarity, and perfection and even a “body” that is considered one....the body of Christ or the body of the Church. And then, the next verse is probably one of the best verses to put this oneness concept into perspective. The leading verses are speaking of the works of the Holy Spirit and then ends with this explanation. 1st Corinthians 12:11-13 “But one and the same Spirit works all these things, distributing to each one individually just as He wills. For even as the body is one and yet has many members, and all the members of the body, though they are many, are one body, so also is Christ. For by one Spirit we were all baptized into one body, whether Jews or Greeks, whether slaves or free, and were all made to drink of one Spirit. For the body is not one member, but many.”

(smile)...lol,

is that all you have beating around the bush. see the Father is the son in flesh ... "diversified".

now Grailhunter do you know what a "diversity" is in the Gohead instead of a fales unity.... YIKES!.

your answer please.

PICJAG
101G The "Spiritual Saboteur"

 

[Grailhunter]

(smile)...lol,

is that all you have beating around the bush. see the Father is the son in flesh ... "diversified".

now Grailhunter do you know what a "diversity" is in the Gohead instead of a fales unity.... YIKES!.

your answer please.

PICJAG
101G The "Spiritual Saboteur"

Do I care? Here is a good website if you do not know.
Divine Diversity
And there is no chance that of the early Churches believed this....

 

[101G]

Do I care? Here is a good website if you do not know.
Divine Diversity
And there is no chance that of the early Churches believed this....

modalism? I was laughing so hard I almost fell out of my chair.... but,
thanks for the reply, or a least a try to reply, second, as Isaiah said "they are all dumb dogs". and we can prove your article out to be a lie easly.

Revelation 5:1 "And I saw in the right hand of him that sat on the throne a book written within and on the backside, sealed with seven seals."

and the Lamb came and took the book out of the one who sits on the throne. listen, Revelation 5:6 "And I beheld, and, lo, in the midst of the throne and of the four beasts, and in the midst of the elders, stood a Lamb as it had been slain, having seven horns and seven eyes, which are the seven Spirits of God sent forth into all the earth."
Revelation 5:7 "And he came and took the book out of the right hand of him that sat upon the throne."

Now Grailhunter,

#1. who was sitting on the throne? was it a. the one whom you calls the Father or b. the son?

#2. who is the Lamb who took the book out of the one who sits on the throne? was it the one whom you calls, a. the Father or b. the Son.

remember no math involved, just an a. or b. selection.

PICJAG
101G The "Spiritual Saboteur"

 

[Grailhunter]

modalism? I was laughing so hard I almost fell out of my chair.... but,
thanks for the reply, or a least a try to reply, second, as Isaiah said "they are all dumb dogs". and we can prove your article out to be a lie easly.

Revelation 5:1 "And I saw in the right hand of him that sat on the throne a book written within and on the backside, sealed with seven seals."

and the Lamb came and took the book out of the one who sits on the throne. listen, Revelation 5:6 "And I beheld, and, lo, in the midst of the throne and of the four beasts, and in the midst of the elders, stood a Lamb as it had been slain, having seven horns and seven eyes, which are the seven Spirits of God sent forth into all the earth."
Revelation 5:7 "And he came and took the book out of the right hand of him that sat upon the throne."

Now Grailhunter,

#1. who was sitting on the throne? was it a. the one whom you calls the Father or b. the son?

#2. who is the Lamb who took the book out of the one who sits on the throne? was it the one whom you calls, a. the Father or b. the Son.

remember no math involved, just an a. or b. selection.

PICJAG
101G The "Spiritual Saboteur"

I think you are having a hard time expressing what you believe....or.....you do not know yourself.
If you have your own definition of the diversity in the godhead, that is fine....but leave me out.
Secondly I do not debate the book of Revelation.

 

[101G]

I think you are having a hard time expressing what you believe....or.....you do not know yourself.
If you have your own definition of the diversity in the godhead, that is fine....but leave me out.
Secondly I do not debate the book of Revelation.

LOL, LOL, LOL, what a cop out, there is no debate, the scripture are clear. and I do know what I'm talking about. well let reveal who sits on the throne and who is the Lamb who takes the book. answer, JESUS/Yeshua...... I see why you cannot discuss the book of revelation, because you don't have the knowledge or the understand to speak on the book. listen, the Lamb is Jesus, and he who sits on the throne is Jesus. do you understand that? I guess not. for he who sits is GIVEN Power, so if you said the Father sits, my question, who gave the Father "POWER", ... dose he not have it all, so if it is the Father who sits then give verse book and chapter as to who gave the father POWER, (see Rev 4:11).

now, the Lamb, Revelation 5:6 "And I beheld, and, lo, in the midst of the throne and of the four beasts, and in the midst of the elders, stood a Lamb as it had been slain, having seven horns and seven eyes, which are the seven Spirits of God sent forth into all the earth."

stood a Lamb as it had been slain? yes the Risen Christ, hold it 101G, didn't you just said it was Jesus who was sitting on the throne... yes, he's "diversified"... BINGO. now these verse right here just elininated any modalism, because two, as your sute said, hats are worn at the same same time. and these verses eliminate any trinity, because he who sits is he who stands..... LOL, LOL, LOL, oh how GREAT our God is. to reveal unto us his truth and right in the face of the so called wise it is hidden.

well Grailhunter your web site has just been reproved. so that Ps 110:1 is really in effect, for he is making his enemies his footstool. and here's how,

Isaiah 29:10 "For the LORD hath poured out upon you the spirit of deep sleep, and hath closed your eyes: the prophets and your rulers, the seers hath he covered."Isaiah 29:11 "And the vision of all is become unto you as the words of a book that is sealed, which men deliver to one that is learned, saying, Read this, I pray thee: and he saith, I cannot; for it is sealed:"Isaiah 29:12 "And the book is delivered to him that is not learned, saying, Read this, I pray thee: and he saith, I am not learned."

see, the so called educated is in the same boat with the uneducated when it comes to God word. I don't blame you, I'll skip the book of revelation too if I was you.

I was just using what your web site tried to imply. are you unafraid to support ... YOUR .. web site you suggested?

but no worries, we'll answer the question for you.
#1. it is the Son Jesus who sits on the throne. and GET THIS, it is Jesus who is the Lamb that takes the book out of his own RIGHT HAND....

and you have no clue as to how he did it do you?... no. but the answer is right there in the bible.... YIKES!. but you see, this information is hidden in plain sight from you. God have blinded your eyes where you cannot see, blind guides...

Diversity destroys modalism? and it destroys any trinity.

now since you cannot discuss the book of Revelation. ok, fine lets go back to the book of Isaiah.
Isaiah 9:6 "For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace."

well Grailhunter, this child that was "BORN" is this child GOD, yes or NO? YIKES! notice I said the Child....

PICJAG
101G The "Spiritual Saboteur"

 

[Grailhunter]

LOL, LOL, LOL, what a cop out, there is no debate, the scripture are clear. and I do know what I'm talking about. well let reveal who sits on the throne and who is the Lamb who takes the book. answer, JESUS/Yeshua...... I see why you cannot discuss the book of revelation, because you don't have the knowledge or the understand to speak on the book. listen, the Lamb is Jesus, and he who sits on the throne is Jesus. do you understand that? I guess not. for he who sits is GIVEN Power, so if you said the Father sits, my question, who gave the Father "POWER", ... dose he not have it all, so if it is the Father who sits then give verse book and chapter as to who gave the father POWER, (see Rev 4:11).

now, the Lamb, Revelation 5:6 "And I beheld, and, lo, in the midst of the throne and of the four beasts, and in the midst of the elders, stood a Lamb as it had been slain, having seven horns and seven eyes, which are the seven Spirits of God sent forth into all the earth."

stood a Lamb as it had been slain? yes the Risen Christ, hold it 101G, didn't you just said it was Jesus who was sitting on the throne... yes, he's "diversified"... BINGO. now these verse right here just elininated any modalism, because two, as your sute said, hats are worn at the same same time. and these verses eliminate any trinity, because he who sits is he who stands..... LOL, LOL, LOL, oh how GREAT our God is. to reveal unto us his truth and right in the face of the so called wise it is hidden.

well Grailhunter your web site has just been reproved. so that Ps 110:1 is really in effect, for he is making his enemies his footstool. and here's how,

Isaiah 29:10 "For the LORD hath poured out upon you the spirit of deep sleep, and hath closed your eyes: the prophets and your rulers, the seers hath he covered."Isaiah 29:11 "And the vision of all is become unto you as the words of a book that is sealed, which men deliver to one that is learned, saying, Read this, I pray thee: and he saith, I cannot; for it is sealed:"Isaiah 29:12 "And the book is delivered to him that is not learned, saying, Read this, I pray thee: and he saith, I am not learned."

see, the so called educated is in the same boat with the uneducated when it comes to God word. I don't blame you, I'll skip the book of revelation too if I was you.

I was just using what your web site tried to imply. are you unafraid to support ... YOUR .. web site you suggested?

but no worries, we'll answer the question for you.
#1. it is the Son Jesus who sits on the throne. and GET THIS, it is Jesus who is the Lamb that takes the book out of his own RIGHT HAND....

and you have no clue as to how he did it do you?... no. but the answer is right there in the bible.... YIKES!. but you see, this information is hidden in plain sight from you. God have blinded your eyes where you cannot see, blind guides...

Diversity destroys modalism? and it destroys any trinity.

now since you cannot discuss the book of Revelation. ok, fine lets go back to the book of Isaiah.
Isaiah 9:6 "For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace."

well Grailhunter, this child that was "BORN" is this child GOD, yes or NO? YIKES! notice I said the Child....

PICJAG
101G The "Spiritual Saboteur"

Yes Christ was born a full fledged God.
It is safe to say I disagree you.
And still you are apparently to cowardly to define your beliefs.

But just so you know that you are not fooling anyone....This is all very familiar to me.
Back in the day, I use to work with families, law enforcement, and interventionist to rescue women and children who where being abused.
Over the years there have been various Jehovah Witness groups. Groups that people call cults....it is a misuse of the term, but how can you argue with something that is so common.

Now a days, most of the other cults have been more "quiet or have gone away but now a days it is the Jehovah Witnesses and Calvinists that are separatists that are at the top of the list of watched groups.

It is not hard to tell who you are dealing with....they weave their beliefs together using undefined scriptures that can be manipulated. But staying away from the more definitive scriptures that disagree with their beliefs. If they show up at your door they will use various deceptive tactics to lead you along. While not disclosing their beliefs until they think they have you hooked. My family thinks it is funny when they show up at my door, because I have a blast with them. I act like I am agreeing with them, nodding my head as if I am eating it up, and then slam them....sometimes physically.

So you are not going to get anywhere with me...so before I get rude....buzz off!

 

[101G]

Yes Christ was born a full fledged God.

well your first of many ERRORS of the day

ERROR. #1. women don't birth "Spirits" nor "spirits"... lol. Spirits are Given.... did you not hear? Isaiah 9:6 "For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace."

spirits are "GIVEN" from God and return to God unpon natural death.

scriptures, Isaiah 42:5 "Thus saith God the LORD, he that created the heavens, and stretched them out; he that spread forth the earth, and that which cometh out of it; he that giveth breath unto the people upon it, and spirit to them that walk therein:"

a woman don't give that... God do... YIKES. first ERROR.

Grailhunter, didn't you know that a spirit is ethereal, meaning nothing to PUSH AGANIST in birth... lol... man oh man the blind,the blind, the blind.

so before I get rude....buzz off!

are you rude now? ..... see your lie is exposed.

now, do you want to argue with ignorance about Isaiah 42:5?

PICJAG
101G The "Spiritual Saboteur"

 

[101G]

@Grailhunter, now, ..... before you you get ... "rude"...lol. lets get your second ERROR out the doors of manufacturing (ERRORS) quickly.. remember you said,

Yes Christ was born a full fledged God.

ok, if Christ was a "FULL" fledged God, well we ask, was it a 1/3 full fledging that came in flesh, or was it the whole fledging, Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. just asking, because Philippians 2:6 states, "Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:" so Grailhunter, if it was Just the Son who came is this the 1/3 full fledging of God you speak of?

remember you said, "FULL", so I want to be sure .... YIKES! ...... I'll be looking for your reply.

PICJAG
101G The "Spiritual Saboteur"

 

[kcnalp]

GINOLJC, to all.

@kcnalp and @Grailhunter
from last night, neither of you could even must up a defense aganist Isaiah 63:5 and Isaiah chapter 53, and Isaiah 35:4, don't worry we will come back to that, but today we need to school you two in the basic of Isaiah 63:5 and Isaiah chapter 53.

lets start today with your education on Yeshua/JESUS being born. since you two don't appear to KNOW. since Yeshua/JESUS is God .... well as this may come as a schock to you, God don't have a daddy, or a mommy... (smile)..LOL. nope, not at all. not in the sense as we ... biologically think.

now, what was born? the bible tells us plainly.... Isaiah 9:6 "For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace."

now looking in reverse of the scripture, "The Prince of Peace." we know that this is the Lord JESUS/Yeshua. and the part, "the government shall be upon his shoulder". again we know that this is JESUS/Yeshua, for he is the "GOVERNOR". if one didn't know, listen, Matthew 2:3 "When Herod the king had heard these things, he was troubled, and all Jerusalem with him."Matthew 2:4 "And when he had gathered all the chief priests and scribes of the people together, he demanded of them where Christ should be born."Matthew 2:5 "And they said unto him, In Bethlehem of Judaea: for thus it is written by the prophet,"Matthew 2:6 "And thou Bethlehem, in the land of Juda, art not the least among the princes of Juda: for out of thee shall come a Governor, that shall rule my people Israel." (WHERE IS THAT WRITTEN?). Micah 5:2 "But thou, Bethlehem Ephratah, though thou be little among the thousands of Judah, yet out of thee shall he come forth unto me that is to be ruler in Israel; whose goings forth have been from of old, from everlasting."

that term "Ruler" is Governor, it's the Hebrew word,
H4910 מָשַׁל mashal (maw-shal') v.
to rule.
[a primitive root]
KJV: (have, make to have) dominion, governor, X indeed, reign, (bear, cause to, have) rule(-ing, -r), have power.

there he is "Governor, yes the KJV can translate "ruler" as "governor". and Guess who else is "Governor?", (smile). lets check the record, Psalms 22:28 "For the kingdom is the LORD'S: and he is the governor among the nations." well, well, well, what do you know. the one who you calls Father... the LORD is the Governor.... YIKES! I tell you this Father and son the way men think nonesense just keep falling apart day by day.... (smile). oh well, let's go on.

Wonderful, meaning miracle worker. for the Hebrws word is,
H6382 פֶּלֶא pele' (peh'-leh) n-m.
a miracle.
[from H6381]
KJV: marvellous thing, wonder(-ful, -fully).
Root(s): H6381

and what did John declare? John 12:37 "But though he had done so many miracles before them, yet they believed not on him:"
yes, just like some of you today, NONE BELIEVERS, yet say... "I Believe the bible... right...,

Counsellor, the "Comforter", that's the Hebrew word,
H3289 יָעַץ ya`ats (yaw-ats') v.
1. to advise.
2. (reflexively) to deliberate or resolve.
[a primitive root]
KJV: advertise, take advise, advise (well), consult, (give, take) counsel(-lor), determine, devise, guide, purpose.

a "guide" yes, John 16:13 "Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come."

Now,
The mighty God, The everlasting Father? Man oh man we have the Father, the Son and the Holy Ghost right here in the ONE PERSON JESUS/Yeshua. lol, lol, lol, you fellas never saw this, have you. ... NO, you sure didn't. see, this is why to baptist in the ONE name of "JESUS" WHY? for he JESUS/Yeshua is the "Father", he JESUS/Yeshua is the Son, he JESUS/Yeshua is the Holy Ghost.

Isaiah 9:6 just revealed to you your false trinity is only ONE person... read them and weep.

now two more, "For unto us a child is born"... FLESH, is born, not God who is a Spirit, but the Body that was made for God to come in is born, (which is the Son of God, Flesh and bone), and not God. for, "unto us a son is given". the son is not born but GIVEN. (the Son of Man, spirit), for the Son did not come from Mary, but from Heaven. scripture, John 3:13 "And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven." and where was the Son of Man before he came into the world? scripture, John 6:62 "What and if ye shall see the Son of man ascend up where he was before?"John 6:63 "It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life."

and was not Jesus/Yeshua a quickening spirit, and notice the small case "s" in spirit. 1 Corinthians 15:45 "And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit."

understand, the Son of Man is a quickening spirit". because he is diversified in flesh.. hence the title "Son of Man". and the Flesh that he dwelt in while on earth is called "the Son of God".

well now, you fellas just got a basic working of Diversified Oneness.

as said, argue not with 101G, but ignorantly argue with the Holy Scriptures... YIKES!.

we suggest you re-read this post, copy it and study it.

PICJAG
101G The "Spiritual Saboteur"

I have 38 English Bibles that say you're wrong. The Father is God and Jesus is His Son!

 

[Grailhunter]

@Grailhunter, now, ..... before you you get ... "rude"...lol. lets get your second ERROR out the doors of manufacturing (ERRORS) quickly.. remember you said,

ok, if Christ was a "FULL" fledged God, well we ask, was it a 1/3 full fledging that came in flesh, or was it the whole fledging, Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. just asking, because Philippians 2:6 states, "Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:" so Grailhunter, if it was Just the Son who came is this the 1/3 full fledging of God you speak of?

remember you said, "FULL", so I want to be sure .... YIKES! ...... I'll be looking for your reply.

PICJAG
101G The "Spiritual Saboteur"

Well if you would pay attention a little bit. I can talk slow but I cannot type slow...so read slow.

Not one, not one person, not one God.

God the Father....Yahweh....full fledged God....Supreme God
God the Son....Yeshua....full fledged God....Savior.
God the Holy Spirit...name not revealed....full fledged God
They all have a Spirit and it is Holy but the Holy Spirit is separate.

A state of solidarity exist between them that is called the Trinity. Some call them a Godhead.
Totally separate Gods....separate minds....separate wills....separate presence, but totally in agreement. They can in fact sit on three thrones side by side.

Yes Christianity has Gods....the word God is a position not a person or a name.

 

[101G]

I have 38 English Bibles that say you're wrong. The Father is God and Jesus is His Son!

first thanks for the reply, second do you even know what the terms "Father" and "Son" means metaphorically? do you? I guess not. why not take a second or two and look up these terms... ok.

now, did you understand what I was saying in post #1669 concering the Godhead? all your so-called three person are right there in Isaiah 9:6 who is only "ONE" person.

third, did you fully understand the implications of Isaiah 63:5 and it's declaration of God's own ARM as the Lord Jesus revealed clearly in Isaiah chapter 53?

if not, then Isaiah 35:4 makes it clear, listen Isaiah 35:4 "Say to them that are of a fearful heart, Be strong, fear not: behold, your God will come with vengeance, even God with a recompence; he will come and save you."
did not the son come? and the verse clearly say the Son is God... right, but notice what itsays, "your God will come", it didn't say the SON would come, but "GOD". so kcnalp did Isaiah LIE? and if not then a question, if God is three persons as you claim, HOW much of God come? was it 1/3 of God ... which would be the "Son", or did "ALL" as Grailhunter said, "Christ was born a full fledged God".

so kcnalp, did a 1/3 of God come, or did all or the whole of God come, and you say "GOD" is one spirit with three persons, so did your your Father, Son, and Holy Spirit come.... all together?.... (smile)... lol.

looking to hear your answer

PICJAG
101G The "Spiritual Saboteur"

 

[101G]

God the Father....Yahweh....full fledged God....Supreme God
God the Son....Yeshua....full fledged God....Savior.
God the Holy Spirit...name not revealed....full fledged God
They all have a Spirit and it is Holy but the Holy Spirit is separate.

(smile) I hear you. so did "GOD" the Son come? if so you have three God, and that's anti bible.

because ... read slow.... Isaiah 43:11 "I, even I, am the LORD; and beside me there is no saviour." THE LORD HERE IS THE FATHER. and there is no, no, no, Saviour beside him well now you have step into it.

now you have three God. and the SON is the LORD now ... right.

your answer please.

PICJAG
101G The "Spiritual Saboteur"

 

[Grailhunter]

(smile) I hear you. so did "GOD" the Son come? if so you have three God, and that's anti bible.

because ... read slow.... Isaiah 43:11 "I, even I, am the LORD; and beside me there is no saviour." THE LORD HERE IS THE FATHER. and there is no, no, no, Saviour beside him well now you have step into it.

now you have three God. and the SON is the LORD now ... right.

your answer please.

PICJAG
101G The "Spiritual Saboteur"

It is not anti-Bible. All you have to do is read and pay attention to the storyline of the Gospels. Everything there is showing the movements, conversations, authoritative positions, prospective locations, wills, deeds and descriptions of three Gods.
The one God thing with three aspects is Pagan.

 

[kcnalp]

(smile) I hear you. so did "GOD" the Son come? if so you have three God, and that's anti bible.

because ... read slow.... Isaiah 43:11 "I, even I, am the LORD; and beside me there is no saviour." THE LORD HERE IS THE FATHER. and there is no, no, no, Saviour beside him well now you have step into it.

now you have three God. and the SON is the LORD now ... right.

your answer please.

PICJAG
101G The "Spiritual Saboteur"

There's only one God of the Bible and He is Father, Son and Holy Spirit, regardless of your heresies.

God calling Himself "US", and "OUR".

Gen 1 God said, "Let US make man in OUR image, according to OUR likeness.

 

[Grailhunter]

There's only one God of the Bible and He is Father, Son and Holy Spirit, regardless of your heresies.

God calling Himself "US", and "OUR".

Gen 1 God said, "Let US make man in OUR image, according to OUR likeness.

I guess you did not read the Gospel.
Did Christ say that the Father is greater than I?

 

[101G]

It is not anti-Bible. All you have to do is read and pay attention to the storyline of the Gospels. Everything there is showing the movements, conversations, positions, wills, deeds and descriptions of three Gods.

let's stop this lie. Malachi 2:10 "Have we not all one father? hath not one God created us? why do we deal treacherously every man against his brother, by profaning the covenant of our fathers?"


YIKES!! , ONE GOD who CREATED US? ... or these Joel 2:27 "And ye shall know that I am in the midst of Israel, and that I am the LORD your God, and none else: and my people shall never be ashamed."

now Grailhunter, I want you to pay special attention to this verse, Isaiah 45:5 "I am the LORD, and there is none else, there is no God beside me: I girded thee, though thou hast not known me:"

now one more, Isaiah 44:8 "Fear ye not, neither be afraid: have not I told thee from that time, and have declared it? ye are even my witnesses. Is there a God beside me? yea, there is no God; I know not any."

now Grailhunter, that just exposed your lie of,
God the Father....Yahweh....full fledged God....Supreme God
God the Son....Yeshua....full fledged God....Savior.
God the Holy Spirit...name not revealed....full fledged God
They all have a Spirit and it is Holy but the Holy Spirit is separate.

did you hear the bible? "Is there a God beside me? yea, there is no God; I know not any.". and that's God with the cap "G". see your lie now

two lies so far. that's the bible calling you a lie, not 101G, but 101G agrees with the bible thou..... (smile).

so you have THREE "GODS"....

PICJAG
101G The "Spiritual Saboteur"

 

[Grailhunter]

let's stop this lie. Malachi 2:10 "Have we not all one father? hath not one God created us? why do we deal treacherously every man against his brother, by profaning the covenant of our fathers?"


YIKES!! , ONE GOD who CREATED US? ... or these Joel 2:27 "And ye shall know that I am in the midst of Israel, and that I am the LORD your God, and none else: and my people shall never be ashamed."

now Grailhunter, I want you to pay special attention to this verse, Isaiah 45:5 "I am the LORD, and there is none else, there is no God beside me: I girded thee, though thou hast not known me:"

now one more, Isaiah 44:8 "Fear ye not, neither be afraid: have not I told thee from that time, and have declared it? ye are even my witnesses. Is there a God beside me? yea, there is no God; I know not any."

now Grailhunter, that just exposed your lie of,
God the Father....Yahweh....full fledged God....Supreme God
God the Son....Yeshua....full fledged God....Savior.
God the Holy Spirit...name not revealed....full fledged God
They all have a Spirit and it is Holy but the Holy Spirit is separate.

did you hear the bible? "Is there a God beside me? yea, there is no God; I know not any.". and that's God with the cap "G". see your lie now

two lies so far. that's the bible calling you a lie, not 101G, but 101G agrees with the bible thou..... (smile).

so you have THREE "GODS"....

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Is this a lie....If Christ’s throne is on the right hand of God, He is not within God and that position although important is second to God the Father. Mark 16:19 “So then after the Lord had spoken unto them, he was received up into Heaven, and sat on the right hand of God.”

 

[kcnalp]

I guess you did not read the Gospel.
Did Christ say that the Father is greater than I?

Did you not read where it says that Jesus emptied Himself.
Philippians 2:6-7 (YLT)
6 who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal to God,
7 but did empty himself, the form of a servant having taken, in the likeness of men having been made,

 

[Grailhunter]

(smile)...lol,

is that all you have beating around the bush. see the Father is the son in flesh ... "diversified".

now Grailhunter do you know what a "diversity" is in the Gohead instead of a fales unity.... YIKES!.

your answer please.

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Is this a lie?
If the conversation included a request, like Yeshua asking His Father to bypass the cup (so-to-speak); it indicates individuality and hierarchy. Mathew 26:39 “And He went a little beyond them, and fell on His face and prayed, saying, “My Father, if it is possible, let this cup pass from Me; yet not as I will, but as You will.”

 

[101G]

I guess you did not read the Gospel.
Did Christ say that the Father is greater than I?

Well your third LIE of the DAY,

"The Father is Greater than I"

We will give you the Short version of the explanation, straight to the point.

John 14:28 "Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come again unto you. If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I go unto the Father: for my Father is greater than I".

this verse have been taken out of context for way to long, and grossly misunderstood. the scriptures say, in all thy getting get understanding. So, let’s get some understanding. the word, "GREATER", here in this verse is not the word GREAT, but, "GREATER", it's an Adjective used here, and not an Adverb, this is very important. because the word GREATER is the Greek word G3187 meizon (meid'-zone) adj. Which means,
1. larger (specially, in age)
{literally or figuratively}
[irregular comparative of G3173]
KJV: elder, greater(-est), more Root(s): G3173

Dictionary.com define this word, as an Adjective, (of a city) considered with the inclusion of the outer suburbs: example, Greater London. the definitions is indicating quantity, (MORE), instead of quality, (SUPERIOR). this is the key to understanding the scripture.

quantity: "an exact or specified amount or measure". measure here, in quantity, give us a starting point in the understanding of Greater.
So What did our Lord and saviour Jesus meant when he said, "The Father is Greater than I", Greater: the Greek word G3187 meizon (meid'-zone), as said indicate quantity, and quantity is synonyms for “MEASURE”. in the book of Romans 12:3 it states, "For I say, through the grace given unto me, to every man that is among you, not to think of himself more highly than he ought to think; but to think soberly, according as God hath dealt to every man the measure of faith". this verse gives us the understanding of quantity, vs quality. every man is the same, (quality), no man is superior/quality to another, so there's no rank. also as with MALES and FEMALES in the kingdom of GOD. For there is neither male nor female, we all are the same when it come to the giving of FAITH from God. We all gets the same MEASURE/quantity. the same Spirit that is in every man, male/female, is given the same amount/measure or the same quantity of Faith. so likewise as the same Spirit that manifest in that fleshly body, only the quantity, or the Omni attributes did. other words his Omni attributes was as Phil 2:7 states, was in G2758 κεν?ω kenoo (ke-no-o'). let’s look at this in John the 14th. chapter. here, the Lord Jesus is speaking of the work of salvation. as the Spirit was in Christ, (the flesh), the man, he was limited, by that fleshly body with BLOOD. the Lord Jesus didn't go into all the world while he was here on earth in flesh and blood. he was limited in his work of salvation, because of that body he was in. but to see this clearly, watch the WORKS and how it is used. John 14:12 "Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father". see that word "greater" here in verse 12. it is the same word, "greater", our Lord Jesus uses in verse 28. wait a minute, is Jesus saying that men who believe in him is GREATER than him in power, (quality)? as which some been led to assume what greater means? NO. (is the servant GREATER than his Master?), again no. so what is the Lord Jesus really saying. as we have said, GREATER, have several meaning, depending on how you used it, in context or out of context, but let the bible explain itself. with that said, now we are seeing the real use of the word, in context meaning, greater as in quantity, and not in quality. greater used as an adjective, it means, "more" as in more believers to do the SAME quality of work, because it is the Lord who do the work. Once glorified, (in Spirit, the Comforter), a greater numbers/believers as he is Spirit in them/us doing the same quality of work he was doing as only one individual in flesh and blood. John 14:12 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works, (there it is), than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father". so we who believe will do the SAME works, (quality), but now as the body/church grows, Greater in numbers, there will be millions of Jesus, (indwelling Spirit), doing the same quality of work. so again greater here means more.

NOW, let’s look at the answer to this millions in, (quantity), of Jesus workers at work as we’re co-worker with him. This is why he goes to the father, to be glorified in the Spirit. And in Spirit form, (as with the day of Pentecost), he now can dwell in each and every believer doing the same quality of work. listen, John 14:14 "If ye shall ask any thing in my name, I will do it". let’s see those Omni attributes of JESUS, after he goes to the Father and is glorified in the Spirit, (John 17:4 & 5), which only the Almighty possess. the verse to show this, John 14:14 again, “If ye shall ask any thing in my name, I will do it". wait a minute, if Christ is in me, and the same Spirit of Christ is in you, wherever you are. this means that Jesus, #1 must be everywhere at the same time in order to hear your request, and he have to be everywhere at the same time to to do the request, remember he said, "If ye shall ask any thing in my name, I will do it", so he is doing the work, and if he's doing the work, and he have disciples, in Mobile, Baltimore, New York, Detroit, Dallas, Kansas City, Cairo, Hong Kong, Tokyo, and ect... then Jesus must be, #2 Omnipresent to do the work in all those places at the same time, and, and, and another and to know which disciple is asking, he must be #3 Omniscient, and, and for him to perform what is asked of him by his disciples, he must be Omnipotent. here the Lord Jesus is displaying all the attributes of GOD who you ingorantly as many calls the FATHER. why? because he is GOD THE FATHER IN FLESH, now GLORIFIED FLESH. Father is only a title that signify, "FIRST", and in Flesh, as Son, it Signify "LAST" as in Adam, who is "flesh". supportive scripture, Isaiah 41:4 "Who hath wrought and done it, calling the generations from the beginning? I the LORD, the first, and with the last; I am he". just as John 1:1 states the "Word was "WITH" God and is God. BINGO

so Grailhunter if you would have know the difference between "Quality" and "Quantity" you would have not asked that foolish question.

and that was just the short verson... so you failed again.


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