Apostolic councils?

[Truman]

Where do you guys get this rubbish from?

The Most High. Have you ever realized that ALL Christian churches (not their real name) are the offspring of the RCC? Which is built on a faulty foundation.
The true congregation (ekklesia) of God is built on the God-given revelation that Yeshua (His real name) is the Messiah, the Son of the Living God. The foundation of which is supposed to be laid by apostles and prophets in the heart of every believer.
The story of the wise and foolish builders is about the process God wants to lead every believer through. Digging down into the sin in one's heart through repentance and taking up one's cross until you hit the Rock, laid by apostles and prophets. Then storms won't move you.
You need to learn the difference between the sacred and the profane. Or are you happy that your RCC buddies removed Enoch? Or should I say, "your ancestors?"
As Yahweh is my witness, when you call the book of Enoch rubbish, you are insulting Him.
You need to think for yourself and while you're at it, get some discernment man, you're embarrassing yourself. Shalom.

 

[BreadOfLife]

you really think that in the entire Christian world, only the church leaders knew how to read? who told you this?

but lets say this is correct, in your twilight zone world, where only the church leaders knew how to read, wouldnt it be on their shoulders to teach others how to read?

And there you go lying again.
Show me the post where I made this claim

If you can't tell the truth - let one of your fellow anti-Catholics speak for you . . .

 

[BreadOfLife]

i dont think he means it was removed from the canon, i think what he means is that the church spread false information about a book they didnt want people to read. what does the bible say about bearing false witness?

No - he said that Pope and a Roman Emperor "removed" it.

You guys make false claims - then you try to do damage control.
How about NOT lying in the first place?

 

[BreadOfLife]

Focus, concentration, pay attention to the argument - the fact that all Scripture is God breathed, does not mean that the characters, events, behaviours and environments were all God ordained - Satan acts in the Bible also, as there are liars, thieves, murders, idolaters AND PAGAN CULTURES AND WRITINGS EINSTEIN???????
Honestly BOL, you are just weird, like seriously!

Apparently, you don't understand that God inspired each writer of Scripture to write what he did - regardless of who said each word that was being recorded.

Like I said - if you don't believe that ALL Scripture is God-breathed (2 Tim. 3:16) - and you have a problem with this - take it up with GOD.
YOUR lack of faith is between YOU and God - not me.

 

[BreadOfLife]

Look simpleton, I cannot believe that this needs to be brought to your attention, Mr. History?
King Henry declared Anglicanism in 1536, thus he was Catholic when he murdered Tyndale.

Henry VIII's problems with the Church started in 1527, when he tried to divorce his wife, Catherine of Aragon for being too old to give him and heir. He didn't just wake up one day and start the Church of England.

Do your HOMEWORK . . .

 

[BreadOfLife]

The Most High. Have you ever realized that ALL Christian churches (not their real name) are the offspring of the RCC? Which is built on a faulty foundation.
The true congregation (ekklesia) of God is built on the God-given revelation that Yeshua (His real name) is the Messiah, the Son of the Living God. The foundation of which is supposed to be laid by apostles and prophets in the heart of every believer.
The story of the wise and foolish builders is about the process God wants to lead every believer through. Digging down into the sin in one's heart through repentance and taking up one's cross until you hit the Rock, laid by apostles and prophets. Then storms won't move you.
You need to learn the difference between the sacred and the profane. Or are you happy that your RCC buddies removed Enoch? Or should I say, "your ancestors?"
As Yahweh is my witness, when you call the book of Enoch rubbish, you are insulting Him.
You need to think for yourself and while you're at it, get some discernment man, you're embarrassing yourself. Shalom.

I didn't ask you why you're an anti-Catholic. The answer is obvious: Ignorance.

I asked you where you got your garbage about a Pope and an Emperor removing the Book of Enoch from the Bible.
If you don't have an intelligent answer - just say so . . .

 

[jaybird]

And there you go lying again.
Show me the post where I made this claim

If you can't tell the truth - let one of your fellow anti-Catholics speak for you . . .

post 144

 

[jaybird]

No - he said that Pope and a Roman Emperor "removed" it.

You guys make false claims - then you try to do damage control.
How about NOT lying in the first place?

i didnt make a false claim, what i said really happened.

whats your position on the book of Enoch?

 

[Marymog]

I trust what was handed down, only because textual criticism has verified it, that it was inspired. Man's councils do not follow a tradition from the Church, or they continue where an inspired Apostle had left off. They dealt with distinct and specific issues that were somewhat foreign to the church, and their decisions were not inspired and barely Scriptural. To the point that I profoundly disagree with all of them.

As far as the Books are concerned, I'm not 100% percent confident that we have all the Books (eg: Paul's letter to the Laodiceans, or Paul's severe letter to the Corinthians, etc,...). I'm not 100% confident of the authorship of certain Books (eg: Genesis, 2 Samuel, ...)

Hi DNB,

Where does the "textual criticism" verify it? I can't find anywhere in Scripture what tells what books are inspired (table of contents).

Tradition teaches us the authorship of SOME of the Books so you are right to not be "100% confident of the authorship of certain Books".

Mary

 

[Marymog]

When his faith and humility expired.

According to your theory/studies/research of Christian history.....when was that?

 

[Marymog]

No, you just contradicted yourself, the Roman Catholic Church is a man-made Church - you didn't know?
There is no office of the Pope, there is no intercession of the saints nor eucharist, nor indulgences, nor rosarie, no theotokos, nor confession, etc...
What has Rome got to do with Jerusalem or Christ?

Ok.....I will accept your theory that the RCC is a "man-made Church. Since, according to your theory, the RCC is man-made where (or which Church) is the visible Church that Christ established?

Curious Mary

 

[BreadOfLife]

post 144

YOUR idiotic post #162 stated the following:
"you really think that in the entire Christian world, only the church leaders knew how to read?"

MY post #144 says NO such thing - so YOU lied.

 

[BreadOfLife]

i didnt make a false claim, what i said really happened.
whats your position on the book of Enoch?

Then PROVE it.
Show me the documented evidence.

Otherwise - just admit that you guys are lying again . . .

 

[Truman]

post 144

I looked for post 144 but it has been removed. I also looked online for when was Enoch was removed from the bible, as well as who did it. All I got were reasons why it was removed, all of which were fake.
For years I studied Enoch and the surrounding details and I'm sure that this book was removed by a pope and emperor. It was common knowledge. All legitimacy for it has been removed.

 

[Truman]

post 144

I looked for post 144 but it has been removed. I also looked online for when was Enoch was removed from the bible, as well as who did it. All I got were reasons why it was removed, all of which were fake.
For years I studied Enoch and the surrounding details and I'm sure that this book was removed by a pope and emperor. It was common knowledge. All legitimacy for it has been removed.

 

[Truman]

If you do not consistently seek God first, you will be deceived. But don't expect to know it. Shalom.

 

[jaybird]

YOUR idiotic post #162 stated the following:
"you really think that in the entire Christian world, only the church leaders knew how to read?"

MY post #144 says NO such thing - so YOU lied.

you said they didnt know how to read anyway, the only logical conclusion was the church and nobility were the only ones that could read.

 

[jaybird]

Then PROVE it.
Show me the documented evidence.

Otherwise - just admit that you guys are lying again . . .

is book of Enoch scripture?

 

[DNB]

Henry VIII's problems with the Church started in 1527, when he tried to divorce his wife, Catherine of Aragon for being too old to give him and heir. He didn't just wake up one day and start the Church of England.

Do your HOMEWORK . . .

He persecuted Tyndale as a Catholic, a 'defender of the Faith'. Meaning, outside of divorce issues, Henry was as Catholic as they come, ...for, he did not wake up one day and consider an English translation of the Bible as an act of apostasy. He was following the pope's guidelines and enactments.

 

[jaybird]

I looked for post 144 but it has been removed. I also looked online for when was Enoch was removed from the bible, as well as who did it. All I got were reasons why it was removed, all of which were fake.
For years I studied Enoch and the surrounding details and I'm sure that this book was removed by a pope and emperor. It was common knowledge. All legitimacy for it has been removed.

removed from the bible is a little confusing to me. ethiopia, RCC and prots all have bibles but they are all different. they have different bible canons. canon is approved scripture, scripture is scripture. Enoch has always been considered scripture, but i dont think it was ever part of anyone's canon with exception to ethiopia. i dont think it was removed from any bible canon because i dont think it was ever part of the canon, i think it was always considered scripture but the roman church tried to get its "scripture" status removed and replaced with "pseudo" which would downgrade the book and its credibility. rome did this with many books that interfered with its politics.
the Jews in the old days thought of Enoch as a secret book which meant it was only available to those that were ready to accept it, thats why it was not part of the LXX.
also that guy has some good videos. he does good research.