Anti Mask Is Nothing New

[Seven of Nine]

For those in America who are Anti-mask...they are usually republican...
Look at this graphic.

Must be hard winning so much all the time. Must be hard winning so much all the time.

It's hard for me to feel sorry for these anti-maskers (including some pastors) who get very sick with the virus or even die from it. As far as I'm concerned, they reap what they sow because of their stubborn rebellion against wearing a mask and refusing to practice social distancing.

Case in point...

Florida pastor who dismissed coronavirus as ‘just the flu’ dies

Coronavirus: Pastor who decried 'hysteria' dies after attending Mardi Gras

Prominent Virginia pastor who said ‘God is larger than this dreaded virus’ dies of covid-19

An Idaho ‘no-masker’ pastor prayed against a mask mandate. He’s now in intensive care for covid-19

Coronavirus hits home for defiant Central pastor: church member dies from illness, lawyer in hospital

 

[Enoch111]

Today 6 of the Tennessee Titans tested positive for covid-19...

Here's the problem. Testing "positive" for coronavirus means absolutely nothing.

It simply shows that you have antibodies in your system TO FIGHT the virus. Which is a good thing, although it does not automatically guarantee immunity (since your general health and your general immune system must also be in good shape).

"According to public health experts, due to the current lack of understanding on coronavirus immunity and the potential for a false-positive test result, a positive antibody test result provides patients with "little if any actionable information," and should not lead to a change in behavior".

https://www.advisory.com/daily-briefing/2020/06/22/antibody-tests

"Advisory Board helps leaders and future leaders in the health care industry work smarter and faster by providing provocative insights, actionable strategies, and practical tools to support execution."

Only those who actually show symptoms should be quarantined. And unless infected people actually wear N95 masks, they might as well forget masking. Or go on a bank-robbing spree.

So all these positive tests and quarantines are causing a lot of stress and confusion for nothing. And had the hydroxycroquine (HCQ) package been freely available over the counter at no cost to the general public, and had the so-called experts encouraged people to take this effective treatment as soon as they showed symptoms, we would be laughing at all this SCAMDEMIC NONSENSE.

But the record shows that there was actually an anti-HCQ conspiracy among public health officials and the media. Which helped them with their fear-mongering and scare tactics. It is quite possible that the deaths from COVID itself could have been cut in half or even more had everyone been honest about this matter.

 

[JohnDB]

Here's the problem. Testing "positive" for coronavirus means absolutely nothing.

It simply shows that you have antibodies in your system TO FIGHT the virus. Which is a good thing, although it does not automatically guarantee immunity (since your general health and your general immune system must also be in good shape).

"According to public health experts, due to the current lack of understanding on coronavirus immunity and the potential for a false-positive test result, a positive antibody test result provides patients with "little if any actionable information," and should not lead to a change in behavior".

https://www.advisory.com/daily-briefing/2020/06/22/antibody-tests

"Advisory Board helps leaders and future leaders in the health care industry work smarter and faster by providing provocative insights, actionable strategies, and practical tools to support execution."

Only those who actually show symptoms should be quarantined. And unless infected people actually wear N95 masks, they might as well forget masking. Or go on a bank-robbing spree.

So all these positive tests and quarantines are causing a lot of stress and confusion for nothing. And had the hydroxycroquine (HCQ) package been freely available over the counter at no cost to the general public, and had the so-called experts encouraged people to take this effective treatment as soon as they showed symptoms, we would be laughing at all this SCAMDEMIC NONSENSE.

But the record shows that there was actually an anti-HCQ conspiracy among public health officials and the media. Which helped them with their fear-mongering and scare tactics. It is quite possible that the deaths from COVID itself could have been cut in half or even more had everyone been honest about this matter.

HCQ taken either as a preventative or as a medication actually did nothing or made the people sicker.

1500+ people in the various trials...

It didn't work. They tried mixing it with other things like zinc and Z-Packs... again nothing worked. I wanted them to try a scotch and HCQ trial...but they said no.

 

[JohnDB]

Will a small, long-shot U.S. company end up producing the best coronavirus vaccine?

For those who are upset over cell lines from aborted fetal tissue...
This vaccine seems to be made from moths. (Yes a bug)

And it appears to be more effective than the first ones getting on the market...

 

[JohnDB]

Just wanted to let those who care to know...

Here in middle Tennessee (Nashville) the smaller hospitals are full and turning people away.

The largest hospitals are the only ones with any beds available right now.

It's getting serious around here.

 

[WaterSong]

I think if we agree that Covid-19 like many virus is airborne and therefore transmits to surfaces as well, that we may come to realize wearing masks that aren't medical grade is of little to no effect.
A researcher some time ago said, this particular virus is so small that wearing a mask to prevent the contagion is like unto erecting a chain link fence in order to keep out a swarm of mosquitoes.

Think of the side effects of this pandemic and lock down. Speaking of America's new normal, our constitutional democratic republic appears state by state to have become an authoritarian dictatorship. Particularly for those living in California.
And to what end? If I wear a mask when in public why do I have to remain six feet away from people? Is the mask that ineffective?
Or is this lock down easily accomplished because with the advent of home delivery for most every need we, well prior to Covid 19, have self-isolated already. Making this national mandate of lock down and remaining separated easier to accomplish. And to what end?

I found this this back in the springtime. What fascinates me is that every part of this video reflective of Bill Gates turns out to be on the record, true.
Fear and inducing fear has throughout history been a great persuader for a free people to surrender certain of their rights and freedoms in order to feel safe.

 

[JohnDB]

I think if we agree that Covid-19 like many virus is airborne and therefore transmits to surfaces as well, that we may come to realize wearing masks that aren't medical grade is of little to no effect.
A researcher some time ago said, this particular virus is so small that wearing a mask to prevent the contagion is like unto erecting a chain link fence in order to keep out a swarm of mosquitoes.

Think of the side effects of this pandemic and lock down. Speaking of America's new normal, our constitutional democratic republic appears state by state to have become an authoritarian dictatorship. Particularly for those living in California.
And to what end? If I wear a mask when in public why do I have to remain six feet away from people? Is the mask that ineffective?
Or is this lock down easily accomplished because with the advent of home delivery for most every need we, well prior to Covid 19, have self-isolated already. Making this national mandate of lock down and remaining separated easier to accomplish. And to what end?

I found this this back in the springtime. What fascinates me is that every part of this video reflective of Bill Gates turns out to be on the record, true.
Fear and inducing fear has throughout history been a great persuader for a free people to surrender certain of their rights and freedoms in order to feel safe.

Yes, the virus is extremely small...
But you have to ask yourself..."how is it leaving your body or someone else's body?"

And the answer is:" inside respiratory droplets of some kind".

Now where the virus is capable of getting through a mask alone...it isn't capable while encapsulated in respiratory droplets.
If it doesn't have those respiratory droplets then it quickly degrades and is destroyed. (It needs the moisture to remain stable)

Now a normal dust mask is capable of fending off these droplets from being inhaled or more importantly being exhaust by another person.

Those tiny seams that don't seal so tight on another person's face are not helpful...but it's no where near enough to cause as much alarm as no mask at all.

The clear face shields are almost worthless unless they include a filter of some kind tight fitting to seal the person's head.

But masks work.

They reduce contagion by at a minimum of 50% in areas where masks are required. People cheat all the time but even still we are seeing half the contagion rate per capita by mask mandates.

And currently...the rural areas of middle Tennessee have overloaded their hospitals and people are coming to Nashville for hospitalization with Covid-19.

Sure, an n-95 mask is better protection...and another mask on top of that...but then again we aren't going into Covid-19 wards at the hospital either.

 

[JohnDB]

How long can you be immune to COVID? A Vanderbilt study is exploring that.

 

[WaterSong]

Yes, the virus is extremely small...
But you have to ask yourself..."how is it leaving your body or someone else's body?"

And the answer is:" inside respiratory droplets of some kind".

Now where the virus is capable of getting through a mask alone...it isn't capable while encapsulated in respiratory droplets.
If it doesn't have those respiratory droplets then it quickly degrades and is destroyed. (It needs the moisture to remain stable)

Now a normal dust mask is capable of fending off these droplets from being inhaled or more importantly being exhaust by another person.

Those tiny seams that don't seal so tight on another person's face are not helpful...but it's no where near enough to cause as much alarm as no mask at all.

The clear face shields are almost worthless unless they include a filter of some kind tight fitting to seal the person's head.

But masks work.

They reduce contagion by at a minimum of 50% in areas where masks are required. People cheat all the time but even still we are seeing half the contagion rate per capita by mask mandates.

And currently...the rural areas of middle Tennessee have overloaded their hospitals and people are coming to Nashville for hospitalization with Covid-19.

Sure, an n-95 mask is better protection...and another mask on top of that...but then again we aren't going into Covid-19 wards at the hospital either.

Great information. :)

How long can you be immune to COVID? A Vanderbilt study is exploring that.

This may help. How Does Coronavirus Spread?

 

[Enoch111]

HCQ taken either as a preventative or as a medication actually did nothing or made the people sicker.

That is simply anti-HCQ propaganda. I am surprised that people continue to believe all the nonsense that is being published as "science".

 

[JohnDB]

That is simply anti-HCQ propaganda. I am surprised that people continue to believe all the nonsense that is being published as "science".

Double blind studies with thousands of participants ARE science.

 

[Enoch111]

Double blind studies with thousands of participants ARE science.

When you leave out critical components like zinc and azithromycin, that is called a "bogus study". Can you cite an actual study which combined HCQ/zinc/azithromycin in the correct proportions, and then found that that treatment did not work?

Hydroxycroquine, Azithromycin, and Zinc Triple-Combo Proved to be Effective in Coronavirus Patients, Study Says
Hydroxycroquine, Azithromycin, and Zinc Triple-Combo Proved to be Effective in Coronavirus Patients, Study Says

Also, as I mentioned earlier, the medical term "case" for COVID is being deliberately abused. Here is the correct meaning of a case according to Case definition for coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19), as of 29 May 2020
Case definition for coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19), as of 29 May 2020

Clinical criteria
Any person with at least one of the following symptoms [1]:

• cough
• fever
• shortness of breath
• sudden onset of anosmia, ageusia or dysgeusia

Diagnostic imaging criteria
Radiological evidence showing lesions compatible with COVID-19

Laboratory criteria
Detection of SARS-CoV-2 nucleic acid in a clinical specimen [2]

Epidemiological criteria
At least one of the following two epidemiological links:

• close contact [3] with a confirmed COVID-19 case in the 14 days prior to onset of symptoms
• having been a resident or a staff member, in the 14 days prior to onset of symptoms, in a residential institution for vulnerable people where ongoing COVID-19 transmission has been confirmed.

But after all this, they claim that a "confirmed case" needs to meet only one criterion -- "Detection of SARS-CoV-2 nucleic acid in a clinical specimen" -- which means that they all compromised the meaning of "case" for their own political purposes.

 

[JohnDB]

When you leave out critical components like zinc and azithromycin, that is called a "bogus study". Can you cite an actual study which combined HCQ/zinc/azithromycin in the correct proportions, and then found that that treatment did not work?

Hydroxycroquine, Azithromycin, and Zinc Triple-Combo Proved to be Effective in Coronavirus Patients, Study Says
Hydroxycroquine, Azithromycin, and Zinc Triple-Combo Proved to be Effective in Coronavirus Patients, Study Says

Also, as I mentioned earlier, the medical term "case" for COVID is being deliberately abused. Here is the correct meaning of a case according to Case definition for coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19), as of 29 May 2020
Case definition for coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19), as of 29 May 2020

Clinical criteria
Any person with at least one of the following symptoms [1]:

• cough
• fever
• shortness of breath
• sudden onset of anosmia, ageusia or dysgeusia

Diagnostic imaging criteria
Radiological evidence showing lesions compatible with COVID-19

Laboratory criteria
Detection of SARS-CoV-2 nucleic acid in a clinical specimen [2]

Epidemiological criteria
At least one of the following two epidemiological links:

• close contact [3] with a confirmed COVID-19 case in the 14 days prior to onset of symptoms
• having been a resident or a staff member, in the 14 days prior to onset of symptoms, in a residential institution for vulnerable people where ongoing COVID-19 transmission has been confirmed.

But after all this, they claim that a "confirmed case" needs to meet only one criterion -- "Detection of SARS-CoV-2 nucleic acid in a clinical specimen" -- which means that they all compromised the meaning of "case" for their own political purposes.

The results of this unblinded small group study has not been reproducible by anyone else. And they tried and failed.

This study is not proper Science.

When you cherry pick patients and your "control" group with only 40-60 patients in your "test group" it's not science...

These sorts of studies are done to gain a true funded scientific study of thousands...and it's been done and found to be not repeatable.

 

[JohnDB]

Well...

Good news.

The first vaccines are racing their way to market and the first doses should be being administered just before Christmas.

The Moderna vaccine looks like the clear winner over Pfizer's vaccine as it doesn't require the -80°C refrigeration for transport...just a regular 0°C will be just fine.

Neither of these use aborted fetal tissue like the AstraZeneca vaccine...

My favorite is yet to come as the Novovax is still in stage three trials.

The Moderna is also beating the bar on disease alone by actually preventing infection. So there won't be any need for masks either. (Except for the Anti-vac people)

Don't expect to get your shots anytime soon though.

Only first responders/medical staff are getting the first shipments.

Everyone has been going full steam ahead with production...secondary supplier manufacturing is going to be tapped soon.

But there's going to be a huge lag time for us to get shots. It takes time to vaccinate almost 8 billion people two times. The time required to make that many doses is even longer. Don't expect to be able to begin (and I do mean begin) to move freely about until summer time.

But this is going to be AFTER the deadliest winter.

They are expecting another 300,000 deaths from Covid-19 in America before it's over.

Don't forget that it won't really be over until every animal capable of carrying the virus is also vaccinated...this means your cats, minks, monkeys, hamsters, rats, mice, and all other 4 legged critters.

It's not over...but the light at the end of the tunnel is both the oncoming train and the end of the dark night.

 

[MattMooradian]

And we have NO Treatments at this time. No preventative medicine whatsoever.

Melatonin and vitamin D both help. Also, the medical professionals are getting better at treating covid, resulting in a dropping rate of death from covid.

 

[JohnDB]

Melatonin and vitamin D both help. Also, the medical professionals are getting better at treating covid, resulting in a dropping rate of death from covid.

To date we only have a couple of treatments...none of which are great.

I expect that we'll have some soon. The Antivirals aren't working like they thought...nor is the steroid injection.

The antibodies aren't working great either.

It's probably going to be a while before we get farther with the Antivirals.

 

[Mantis]

I just read this on the Drudge Report. They have swung way left, I’m surprised they posted this article.:

Landmark Danish study shows face masks have no significant effect
Landmark Danish study shows face masks have no significant effect | The Spectator

 

[JohnDB]

I just read this on the Drudge Report. They have swung way left, I’m surprised they posted this article.:

Landmark Danish study shows face masks have no significant effect
Landmark Danish study shows face masks have no significant effect | The Spectator

I'm going to doubt the science behind this...

We have studies with thousands upon thousands of people showing exactly the opposite.
Besides, the Danes are. Completely different culture that is unique with several specific things that fight off infection and disease.

 

[Mantis]

I'm going to doubt the science behind this...

We have studies with thousands upon thousands of people showing exactly the opposite.
Besides, the Danes are. Completely different culture that is unique with several specific things that fight off infection and disease.

We can’t believe anything anymore. Every issue, every article will have an opposite article claiming the opposite. Both sides claiming truth. Everything is so partisan, so much deception and fake news.

 

[historyb]

We can’t believe anything anymore. Every issue, every article will have an opposite article claiming the opposite. Both sides claiming truth. Everything is so partisan, so much deception and fake news.

Yep, everything has to me been a lie since this started. The first time the "experts" heard about this whole thing they mad it political and lied to us. They need to treat us like adults and come clean with what they don't know.