2nd Timothy Group
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I was thinking..
how much you think it cost John for those locusts and honey?
Or even Jesus! How much did John charge for the Baptism that he gave to His Lord and Savior? This is just unbelievable.
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I was thinking..
how much you think it cost John for those locusts and honey?
But Jesus church is not a Wordly Universal Church.. that's man's church.
Big difference..
The Roman Catholic church has it's foundations in Rome.
They profess Jesus but they Know him not.
Their symbolism comes from Egypt.
They wear the Fish hat of the god Dagon.
They are immersed in idolatry.
They mock the passover.
They worship Ishtar as Easter.
They call a man Father, even though Jesus explicitely says not to.
They don't care.. they got LOTS and LOTS of money. while the world starves paying penance to them.
This Roman Catholic Church is the same one that God destroyed in Jerusalem in 70AD
It's ugly head was wounded but it's still breathing venomous poison..
Grrr
I'm not attacking the people.. I'm attacking the establishment. corrupt to the core.
Grrrr
Hugs
I'm sorry.. I seen enough to know the truth..Ziggy these are Typical fundamentalist misunderstandings!
to show that they are I will explain one of them for you!
Ziggy these are Typical fundamentalist misunderstandings!
to show that they are I will explain one of them for you!
Matt 23:9
Call no man Father?
Is this an absolute requirement?
Or is Our Savior condemning pride?
God calls men father!
Ex 3:6 Moreover he said, I am the God of thy fathers, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob. And Moses hid his face; for he was afraid to look upon God.
Jesus calls men father!
Jn 6:49 Your fathers did eat manna in the wilderness, and are dead.
Mary calls men father!
Lk 1:55 As he spake to our fathers, to Abraham, and to his seed for ever.
The stephen calls men father!
Acts 7 Stephen quotes the fathers over and over!
The Bible calls men father!
Luke 16:24
And he cried and said, Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus, that he may dip the tip of his finger in water, and cool my tongue; for I am tormented in this flame.
Then there is spiritual fathers!
Spiritual Fathers have care for our souls!
Acts 20:28 Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over the which the Holy Ghost hath made you overseers, to feed the church of God, which he hath purchased with his own blood.
Jn 21:17 feed my sheep:
Heb 13:17 Obey them that have the rule over you, and submit yourselves: for they care for your souls, as they that must give account, that they may do it with joy, and not with grief: for that is unprofitable for you.
1 Tim 1:2 Unto Timothy, my own son in the faith: Grace, mercy, and peace, from God our Father and Jesus Christ our Lord.
Gal 4:19 My little children, of whom I travail in birth again until Christ be formed in you
1 John 2
My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not.
That makes Peter, Paul and John spiritual fathers, pastors of our souls!
Is 22 the administrator of the kingdom is called father, so the same for Peter, the apostles, and their successors!
I'm sorry.. I seen enough to know the truth..
I won't even entertain any defence of the catholic establishment.
none. nil, nope
thank you but if you like your catholicism, you can keep your catholicism..
babylon beast of all unsavoury nastiness and abominations...
Hugs
I will admit I read somewhere that camel's hair was very expensive.@Ziggy It says it was wild honey...
I don't have a bunker.. I have Jesus.your well entrenched in your fundamentalist bunker! Not the one true church founded by Christ on Peter!
I don't know who they worship but it's not Jesus Christ.your well entrenched in your fundamentalist bunker! Not the one true church founded by Christ on Peter!
I don't have a bunker.. I have Jesus.
I don't know who they worship but it's not Jesus Christ.
And if Peter founded a church and Jesus isn't the foundation and no other..
than it's built on sand and will someday sink in the sea.. hopefully.
You don't even know do you?
YOU DON'T EVEN KNOW.
RUN
RUN
I don't know who they worship but it's not Jesus Christ.
And if Peter founded a church and Jesus isn't the foundation and no other..
than it's built on sand and will someday sink in the sea.. hopefully.
You don't even know do you?
YOU DON'T EVEN KNOW.
RUN
RUN
Peter is a little rock.. not THE ROCK,I said Christ built the church on Peter the rock matt 16:18 eph 2:20 jn 20:21-22
With every breath I take.How do you worship God?
You ever been so close to death you can taste it?how did you get Jesus?
Do you have a personal covenant?
Not the one true church founded by Christ on Peter!
How did I get Jesus?
He actually got me.
Through somebody's sister who took the time to pray for me when I was around... 13ish.
I knew of Jesus, but I didn't know Jesus.
And I been very stubborn most my life knowing about Jesus.
It's been about 6 years now that I know I know Jesus.
And I know He knows me too.
Long journey..
But the fun has just begun
Peter is a little rock.. not THE ROCK,
Peter maybe used to feed his sheep, now he eats them.
With every breath I take.
Every thought I think.
Every emotion in my heart
Is His.. because he put it there himself.
I sing, I pray, I meditate, I am captive to his word.
I have no life of my own, my life belongs to Him.
And Him alone.
I answer to no man.
God built the church on a human that fell astray, led Barnabas astray, and the two of them led many astray. I would never, ever, never follow Peter. Never!
Galatians 2:11-15 NIV - "When Cephas came to Antioch, I opposed him to his face, because he stood condemned. 12 For before certain men came from James, he used to eat with the Gentiles. But when they arrived, he began to draw back and separate himself from the Gentiles because he was afraid of those who belonged to the circumcision group. 13 The other Jews joined him in his hypocrisy, so that by their hypocrisy even Barnabas was led astray. 14 When I saw that they were not acting in line with the truth of the gospel, I said to Cephas in front of them all, "You are a Jew, yet you live like a Gentile and not like a Jew. How is it, then, that you force Gentiles to follow Jewish customs?"
There is no one that consistently presented himself as a total pain-in-the-neck more than Peter, but I'm supposed to pray to Peter? Look at how many times Paul mentions Peter in his writings (Zero after Paul rebukes him openly and publicly). If Peter was the first Pope, the Apostle Paul couldn't give two-rips about it. That's pretty weird. Clearly, Peter, the little rock, was standing upon a Larger Rock, the Foundation of Christ. But Peter was just a little stone . . . and not a Cornerstone.
That's it. Can't get anywhere without rational conversation. Done.