Another question for mormons.

[justbyfaith]

As far as evidence of another testament, that is in the bible itself.

John 10:16

And other sheep I have, which are not of this fold: them also I must bring, and they shall hear my voice; and there shall be one fold, and one shepherd.

The fold that Jesus is speaking of is the Jewish people; and the others who are not of that fold, the Gentile converts.

If this is speaking of the mormons then Christians and mormons will all become one fold.

How do you suppose that is going to happen? Are all Christians going to become mormon or are all mormons going to become Christians?

 

[Enoch111]

Another question for mormons

There is no need for another thread on Mormonism. And for those who are not familiar with the Book of Mormon, there is a lot in that book which Christians cannot really find questionable (Note: I am definitely not a Mormon, but we need to be fair and just in all things).

Here is an example from Mormon 7:5-9:
5 Know ye that ye must come to the a knowledge of your fathers, and repent of all your sins and iniquities, and believe in Jesus Christ, that he is the Son of God, and that he was slain by the Jews, and by the power of the Father he hath risen again, whereby he hath gained the victory over the grave; and also in him is the sting of death swallowed up.

6 And he bringeth to pass the resurrection of the dead, whereby man must be raised to stand before his judgment-seat.

7 And he hath brought to pass the redemption of the world, whereby he that is found guiltless before him at the judgment day hath it given unto him to dwell in the presence of God in his kingdom, to sing ceaseless praises with the choirs above, unto the Father, and unto the Son, and unto the Holy Ghost, which are one God, in a state of happiness which hath no end.

8 Therefore repent, and be baptized in the name of Jesus, and lay hold upon the gospel of Christ, which shall be set before you, not only in this record but also in the record which shall come unto the Gentiles from the Jews, which record shall come from the Gentiles unto you.

 

[justbyfaith]

more foolish speculation without facts by jbf..............the kjv only are blind leading the blind.

@Christophany,

Are you a closet mormon?

What are you doing on this thread undermining my authority? Do you not want these mormons to be saved?

Why then are you fighting for them as they are opposing themselves?

 

[justbyfaith]

Note: I am definitely not a Mormon,

Why then are you preaching what is in their book?

Are you not aware of what is written in Galatians 1:6-9?

 

[ChristisGod]

you have no authority and jane is saved regardless of what you think. she confesses the same Jesus who is God the Son, the 2nd Person of the Trinity as her personal Savior and Lord.

And unlike your heresy she doesn't believe the Son is the Father and espouse the false teaching of Modalism.

 

[dev553344]

Except that it claims to be "another" testament of Jesus Christ.

If it is "another" testament, then there must be another death involved in the creating of it. But Jesus didn't die a 2nd time (Romans 6:9).

You cannot escape the fact that the title on the book of mormon says "another" testament of Jesus Christ.

If it were faithful and true, it would not have claimed that...it would have claimed to be an extension of the New Testament.

Your being very simple I think, too simple. If you read the book of Mormon it describes Jesus visiting the Indians in the Americas after his resurrection. So it would be nothing more than an extension of the testament of the resurrection of Jesus.

But honestly you appear to be caught in some illusion here after some strange logic, that I really can't seem to help you reason out. Sorry, I'll pray for you.

But if you're trying to fight against the Mormon church there are better issues to take that are spelled out in the bible.

 

[dev553344]

The fold that Jesus is speaking of is the Jewish people; and the others who are not of that fold, the Gentile converts.

If this is speaking of the mormons then Christians and mormons will all become one fold.

How do you suppose that is going to happen? Are all Christians going to become mormon or are all mormons going to become Christians?

Mormons beleive that the line that came from Moses, took the old testament, boarded a ship and floated to America. Then they kept the old testament record. So that Indians of America were descendants of Israel.

Then Jesus was born, died and resurrected and appeared to them in America as "another" testament of Jesus the Christ (you appear to be hung up on that word "another"). They beleive the Indians of America would be the other sheep spoken of in John 10:16.

And there lives here as well as some of the old testament and new testament are all recorded in the Book of Mormon. That's what Mormons believe, I know I was Mormon for 10 years. Unless I got some minor details incorrect?

I can't really spend anymore time on this tonight. Cheers and God Bless You

 

[justbyfaith]

you have no authority and jane is saved regardless of what you think. she confesses the same Jesus who is God the Son, the 2nd Person of the Trinity as her personal Savior and Lord.

And unlike your heresy she doesn't believe the Son is the Father and espouse the false teaching of Modalism.

You have been deceived, friend, if you think that the mormon jesus has the power to save anyone (see 2 Corinthians 11:3-4, Galatians 1:6-9).

 

[ChristisGod]

no that would be you the modalist with a false christ and god

 

[DNB]

Of course, the information in question is a major part of the word of my testimony; by which I will overcome the accuser of the brethren along with the blood of the Lamb and the fact that I do not love my life unto the death.

So it couldn't be helped that this information be out there.

Maliciousness on the part of those who hate my doctrine only testifies to the nature of their spirit.

Well, I hate your doctrine also JBF, but you personally, don't seem that bad, ...maybe rather tenacious and deluded, but not a bad guy in my opinion.

 

[justbyfaith]

no that would be you the modalist with a false christ and god

The Christ that I believe in and preach is not a false one. He is the biblical Christ; and you have yet to refute any of my doctrine concerning Him.

And, you may as well quote my posts for greater clarity...

Because frankly, I think that failing to include them because of your former statement that it would be your last direct statement to me is hypocrisy.

Do you really think that you are keeping your integrity by not quoting my statements?

Because you have been directly responding to me; whether you want to admit to that or not.

 

[DNB]

You are missing something here: me doing just that and repeatedly addressing this in private messages. Over and over again, going on repeat every few months. Many of them (like this one) literally the same things over and over again. Many mental breakdowns on justbyfaith's part.

I strive to be really courteous of others, especially those whom have mental ailments. I have determined that those most charitable thing I can do for justbyfaith's mental health is to ignore his endless parade of strawman arguments, peacefully walk away with a prayer about Him to God. It's the most charitable thing that can be done.

When just JBF choose once again to repeat the same loop again here, those most charitable course is again peacefully walk away with a prayer.

I agree, tenacious and irritating he is, ...but I never knew of such mental breakdowns, and vacillating between faithful and infidel, until you exposed it here. But, Christophany said that JBF has openly publicized his condition on other forums on this site, so, I see that you weren't spreading dirty laundry gratuitously.
Yes, avoidance is the best policy, ...but, you were rather scathing with him, I thought? But, again, there seems to be a very long history between the both of you, not known to many, that maybe it was JBF who pushed the limits here?
Thanks!

 

[justbyfaith]

Well, I hate your doctrine also JBF, but you personally, don't seem that bad, ...maybe rather tenacious and deluded, but not a bad guy in my opinion.

Thank you for that, at least.

 

[justbyfaith]

no that would be you the modalist with a false christ and god

I am also not a modalist but a true Trinitarian.

However, I emphasize the oneness of the Lord in my posts in order to fight against the heresy of Tritheism (which is also believed by mormons).

Are you a mormon?

 

[Jane_Doe22]

I agree, tenacious and irritating he is, ...but I never knew of such mental breakdowns, and vacillating between faithful and infidel, until you exposed it here. But, Christophany said that JBF has openly publicized his condition on other forums on this site, so, I see that you weren't spreading dirty laundry gratuitously.
Yes, avoidance is the best policy, ...but, you were rather scathing with him, I thought? But, again, there seems to be a very long history between the both of you, not known to many, that maybe it was JBF who pushed the limits here?
Thanks!

There is a very long history here of JBF's harassment. I am try to show grace by my being brief about things.

 

[ChristisGod]

@justbyfaith why did you get ex communicated from the Nazarene church as a so-called pastor of the flock ?

 

[justbyfaith]

There is a very long history here of JBF's harassment. I am try to show grace by my being brief about things.

But you do not succeed at showing grace...

You fail miserably at attempting to be the good mormon that you think might mean will be your salvation.

 

[justbyfaith]

@justbyfaith why did you get ex communicated from the Nazarene church as a so-called pastor of the flock ?

This is really crazy. Are you demon-possessed, friend? What is possessing you to harass me in this manner?

I did not get "ex-communicated", for the record; I simply lost my position as local minister because I had a break.

That is why I faithfully take my meds any more.

 

[ChristisGod]

so you no longer met the biblical qualifications for a pastor otherwise you would of remained the pastor.

 

[DNB]

There is a very long history here of JBF's harassment. I am try to show grace by my being brief about things.

...it should've been more brief.
Certain details could've been left out, while still getting your point across, in my opinion?