Hebrews 10:26-31

[justbyfaith]

Heb 10:26, For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins, Heb 10:27, But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries. Heb 10:28, He that despised Moses' law died without mercy under two or three witnesses: Heb 10:29, Of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, who hath trodden under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace? Heb 10:30, For we know him that hath said, Vengeance belongeth unto me, I will recompense, saith the Lord. And again, The Lord shall judge his people. Heb 10:31, It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.

This passage has created controversy for certain. I will mention one thing concerning its interpretation and then will hand it over to the Andrew Farley and Les Feldick followers to explain the passage according to their teaching.

It seems to me that there is the following verse,

Heb 10:12, But this man, after he had offered one sacrifice for sins for ever, sat down on the right hand of God;

This is in the context of Hebrews 10:26; and it appears to show forth that the sacrifice of Jesus Christ on the Cross is a valid sacrifice.

Thus, in Hebrews 10:26,

Heb 10:26, For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,

It can be said that the sacrifice being spoken of is the sacrifice of Jesus Christ on the Cross.

 

[CharismaticLady]

Heb 10:26, For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins, Heb 10:27, But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries. Heb 10:28, He that despised Moses' law died without mercy under two or three witnesses: Heb 10:29, Of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, who hath trodden under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace? Heb 10:30, For we know him that hath said, Vengeance belongeth unto me, I will recompense, saith the Lord. And again, The Lord shall judge his people. Heb 10:31, It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.

This passage has created controversy for certain. I will mention one thing concerning its interpretation and then will hand it over to the Andrew Farley and Les Feldick followers to explain the passage according to their teaching.

It seems to me that there is the following verse,

Heb 10:12, But this man, after he had offered one sacrifice for sins for ever, sat down on the right hand of God;

This is in the context of Hebrews 10:26; and it appears to show forth that the sacrifice of Jesus Christ on the Cross is a valid sacrifice.

Thus, in Hebrews 10:26,

Heb 10:26, For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,

It can be said that the sacrifice being spoken of is the sacrifice of Jesus Christ on the Cross.

And verse 29 says he was sanctified. Only the blood of Jesus can sanctify us and take away our sin. But we still have freedom of choice. Therefore, this person not being a slave to sin anymore, CHOSE to sin when he didn't have to. That is a slap in the face to Jesus.

 

[Nancy]

Heb 10:26, For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins, Heb 10:27, But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries. Heb 10:28, He that despised Moses' law died without mercy under two or three witnesses: Heb 10:29, Of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, who hath trodden under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace? Heb 10:30, For we know him that hath said, Vengeance belongeth unto me, I will recompense, saith the Lord. And again, The Lord shall judge his people. Heb 10:31, It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.

This passage has created controversy for certain. I will mention one thing concerning its interpretation and then will hand it over to the Andrew Farley and Les Feldick followers to explain the passage according to their teaching.

It seems to me that there is the following verse,

Heb 10:12, But this man, after he had offered one sacrifice for sins for ever, sat down on the right hand of God;

This is in the context of Hebrews 10:26; and it appears to show forth that the sacrifice of Jesus Christ on the Cross is a valid sacrifice.

Thus, in Hebrews 10:26,

Heb 10:26, For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,

It can be said that the sacrifice being spoken of is the sacrifice of Jesus Christ on the Cross.

Understood..BUT. "there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins," Could this mean that there is nowhere else to go for His mercies that are new everyday? IOW, there IS NO OTHER place to receive His forgiveness. Why are we to pray for him to forgive us our sins? Why would His mercies be new each day if we were perfect? If we truly seek to serve Him and Him only and fall short as, sin is a parasite that lives in us but we do not serve sin! Am I to believe that you never ask for forgiveness?

 

[justbyfaith]

Why would His mercies be new each day if we were perfect?

That is indeed an excellent point.

Lam 3:22, It is of the LORD'S mercies that we are not consumed, because his compassions fail not.
Lam 3:23, They are new every morning: great is thy faithfulness.

So, you appear to be saying, that we can receive forgiveness by no other means than the sacrifice of Jesus if we sin willfully after having come to the knowledge of the truth.

What is the safer doctrine to live by, is my question.

If, in fact, willfully sinning against the Lord is going to put you out of the kingdom so that no sacrifice for sins avails for you any more, is it not safer to live as though that were the case, choosing to abstain from willful sins?

But if willful sins committed can be forgiven through the same one sacrifice that you were originally forgiven through, then it does not matter if one willfully sins against the Lord.

But if it does matter, then it behooves us to behave as though it matters.

But if you have willfully sinned against Him, it behooves you to believe that you can still be forgiven through that one original sacrifice.

I believe that this person must come to the understanding that they are able to repent and that in the repenting, they will be bound to righteousness and holiness once again...that once they come to the knowledge of the truth, there remains no more sacrifice for sins for those who willfully sin....and that the sacrifice of Jesus Christ on the Cross is a sacrifice for sins.

Therefore the sacrifice of Jesus Christ on the Cross no longer avails for the one who sins willfully "after coming to the knowledge of the truth."

Please note that this applies only to those who have received the full revelation of what the gospel is truly all about; and who then reject the sanctifying work of the Holy Ghost upon their hearts, counting the blood of the covenant as an unholy thing that does not sanctify (see Hebrews 13:12, Hebrews 10:29, 1 John 1:7) but which only justifies; which it does do (Romans 5:9) but it is not the only thing that it does.

 

[justbyfaith]

@Blood Bought 1953, the OP.

 

[CharismaticLady]

Understood..BUT. "there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins," Could this mean that there is nowhere else to go for His mercies that are new everyday? IOW, there IS NO OTHER place to receive His forgiveness. Why are we to pray for him to forgive us our sins? Why would His mercies be new each day if we were perfect? If we truly seek to serve Him and Him only and fall short as, sin is a parasite that lives in us but we do not serve sin! Am I to believe that you never ask for forgiveness?

You've heard me say this before. All of our past sins are cleansed. 2 Peter 1:9. Then He changes our nature to give us power to not willfully commit sins of lawlessness. 1 John 3:4; Numbers 15:30-36. Chapter 3 is only about that type (of the two types) of sins. The Catholic Church calls those mortal sins, or major sins, I can't remember which. They are right. The other type they call venial, which the Bible calls trespasses Leviticus 5:15; Numbers 15:22-29; 1 John 2:1, but we first are responsible to forgive others in order for our present and future trespasses to be forgiven. I'm afraid for a friend of mine who holds grudges and has a spirit of bitterness.

Jesus is not our Advocate for willful sins of lawlessness. There is no more sacrifice after we have been born again that covers those sins unto death. This is why 2 Peter 2 says it would be better for them if they had never known the power of being born again, than to willfully go back to their own vomit. That is my commentary on it.

 

[Nancy]

You've heard me say this before. All of our past sins are cleansed. 2 Peter 1:9. Then He changes our nature to give us power to not willfully commit sins of lawlessness. 1 John 3:4; Numbers 15:30-36. Chapter 3 is only about that type (of the two types) of sins. The Catholic Church calls those mortal sins, or major sins, I can't remember which. They are right. The other type they call venial, which the Bible calls trespasses Leviticus 5:15; Numbers 15:22-29; 1 John 2:1, but we first are responsible to forgive others in order for our present and future trespasses to be forgiven. I'm afraid for a friend of mine who holds grudges and has a spirit of bitterness.

Jesus is not our Advocate for willful sins of lawlessness. There is no more sacrifice after we have been born again that covers those sins unto death. This is why 2 Peter 2 says it would be better for them if they had never known the power of being born again, than to willfully go back to their own vomit. That is my commentary on it.

Yes my sister, I do know your view well

 

[CharismaticLady]

Yes my sister, I do know your view well

Yes, I know! And maybe someday you'll believe it too! LOL

 

[Nancy]

That is indeed an excellent point.

Lam 3:22, It is of the LORD'S mercies that we are not consumed, because his compassions fail not.
Lam 3:23, They are new every morning: great is thy faithfulness.

So, you appear to be saying, that we can receive forgiveness by no other means than the sacrifice of Jesus if we sin willfully after having come to the knowledge of the truth.

What is the safer doctrine to live by, is my question.

If, in fact, willfully sinning against the Lord is going to put you out of the kingdom so that no sacrifice for sins avails for you any more, is it not safer to live as though that were the case, choosing to abstain from willful sins?

But if willful sins committed can be forgiven through the same one sacrifice that you were originally forgiven through, then it does not matter if one willfully sins against the Lord.

But if it does matter, then it behooves us to behave as though it matters.

But if you have willfully sinned against Him, it behooves you to believe that you can still be forgiven through that one original sacrifice.

I believe that this person must come to the understanding that they are able to repent and that in the repenting, they will be bound to righteousness and holiness once again...that once they come to the knowledge of the truth, there remains no more sacrifice for sins for those who willfully sin....and that the sacrifice of Jesus Christ on the Cross is a sacrifice for sins.

Therefore the sacrifice of Jesus Christ on the Cross no longer avails for the one who sins willfully "after coming to the knowledge of the truth."

Please note that this applies only to those who have received the full revelation of what the gospel is truly all about; and who then reject the sanctifying work of the Holy Ghost upon their hearts, counting the blood of the covenant as an unholy thing that does not sanctify (see Hebrews 13:12, Hebrews 10:29, 1 John 1:7) but which only justifies; which it does do (Romans 5:9) but it is not the only thing that it does.

Understood. What true Christian even WANT'S to sin?? To me, sin is sin and the "sin unto death" is the ONLY sin that will never be forgiven, blasphemy of The Holy Spirit. Was Peter sinning when Paul corrected him? I would say so as Peter was being a hypocrite and is hypocrisy not a sin? I would say it is. And this, AFTER being indwelt by The Holy Spirit. So, if some here believe they are sinless then they are lying to themselves and I am sorry but this is MY commentary on it

 

[Michael BoryAlis]

"It's not of him that willeth or him that runneth, but God that shows mercy" - Rom 9:16.

No sweat, Jesus will make ALL THINGS NEW - Rev 21:5

 

[Nancy]

That is indeed an excellent point.

Lam 3:22, It is of the LORD'S mercies that we are not consumed, because his compassions fail not.
Lam 3:23, They are new every morning: great is thy faithfulness.

So, you appear to be saying, that we can receive forgiveness by no other means than the sacrifice of Jesus if we sin willfully after having come to the knowledge of the truth.

What is the safer doctrine to live by, is my question.

If, in fact, willfully sinning against the Lord is going to put you out of the kingdom so that no sacrifice for sins avails for you any more, is it not safer to live as though that were the case, choosing to abstain from willful sins?

But if willful sins committed can be forgiven through the same one sacrifice that you were originally forgiven through, then it does not matter if one willfully sins against the Lord.

But if it does matter, then it behooves us to behave as though it matters.

But if you have willfully sinned against Him, it behooves you to believe that you can still be forgiven through that one original sacrifice.

I believe that this person must come to the understanding that they are able to repent and that in the repenting, they will be bound to righteousness and holiness once again...that once they come to the knowledge of the truth, there remains no more sacrifice for sins for those who willfully sin....and that the sacrifice of Jesus Christ on the Cross is a sacrifice for sins.

Therefore the sacrifice of Jesus Christ on the Cross no longer avails for the one who sins willfully "after coming to the knowledge of the truth."

Please note that this applies only to those who have received the full revelation of what the gospel is truly all about; and who then reject the sanctifying work of the Holy Ghost upon their hearts, counting the blood of the covenant as an unholy thing that does not sanctify (see Hebrews 13:12, Hebrews 10:29, 1 John 1:7) but which only justifies; which it does do (Romans 5:9) but it is not the only thing that it does.

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But if willful sins committed can be forgiven through the same one sacrifice that you were originally forgiven through, then it does not matter if one willfully sins against the Lord."

I say it does, if one is genuinely repentant, and hopefully with tears of repentance in their heart. He will forgive us our trespasses. And sin, and trespass is the same to me. I am not of the Catholic faith, I don't "measure" sin.

 

[Nancy]

@Blood Bought 1953, the OP.

Now now JBF! Baiting??

 

[Hidden In Him]

Heb 10:26, For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins, Heb 10:27, But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries. Heb 10:28, He that despised Moses' law died without mercy under two or three witnesses: Heb 10:29, Of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, who hath trodden under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace? Heb 10:30, For we know him that hath said, Vengeance belongeth unto me, I will recompense, saith the Lord. And again, The Lord shall judge his people. Heb 10:31, It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.

This passage has created controversy for certain. I will mention one thing concerning its interpretation and then will hand it over to the Andrew Farley and Les Feldick followers to explain the passage according to their teaching.

It seems to me that there is the following verse,

Heb 10:12, But this man, after he had offered one sacrifice for sins for ever, sat down on the right hand of God;

This is in the context of Hebrews 10:26; and it appears to show forth that the sacrifice of Jesus Christ on the Cross is a valid sacrifice.

Thus, in Hebrews 10:26,

Heb 10:26, For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,

It can be said that the sacrifice being spoken of is the sacrifice of Jesus Christ on the Cross.

Greetings, Just By Faith. I'd like to discuss this passage with you, but if you can, first define for me exactly what you believe the words "willful sin" mean.

Blessings,
- H

 

[Alvertsky]

Greetings, Just By Faith. I'd like to discuss this passage with you, but if you can, first define for me exactly what you believe the words "willful sin" mean.

Blessings,
- H

If his belief is different than yours, is he wrong?

 

[CharismaticLady]

Understood. What true Christian even WANT'S to sin?? To me, sin is sin and the "sin unto death" is the ONLY sin that will never be forgiven, blasphemy of The Holy Spirit. Was Peter sinning when Paul corrected him? I would say so as Peter was being a hypocrite and is hypocrisy not a sin? I would say it is. And this, AFTER being indwelt by The Holy Spirit. So, if some here believe they are sinless then they are lying to themselves and I am sorry but this is MY commentary on it

What about 1 John 3:5 do you believe is a lie? Jesus was manifest to take away our sin, and in Him there is no sin?

1 John 2:1. The first part John says, My little children, I tell you this so you WILL NOT SIN. Was that impossible?

 

[Nancy]

What about 1 John 3:5 do you believe is a lie? Jesus was manifest to take away our sin, and in Him there is no sin?

1 John 2:1. The first part John says, My little children, I tell you this so you WILL NOT SIN. Was that impossible?

Why do you never ever finish second part of this verse?

"...And if any man sin, we have an Advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous:"

"John 3:5 do you believe is a lie?"
Of course I do not believe that to be a lie. Nor anything else in His word. He takes away the sins of the world! To be forgotten as far as the East is from the West. He took all sin and He knows His sheep and they recognize His voice. Sheep can wander but, He is the Rock that never wanders and what a foundation. no true Christian "wants" to sin yet, we can lose battles depending whence we come! Some things are ingrained and need to be pealed off layer by layer.
You and others may think those who do not believe as you do, are not saved. And if that is so then, very few indeed will make it through the gates of heaven..

 

[Alvertsky]

Why do you never ever finish second part of this verse?

"...And if any man sin, we have an Advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous:"

"John 3:5 do you believe is a lie?"
Of course I do not believe that to be a lie. Nor anything else in His word. He takes away the sins of the world! To be forgotten as far as the East is from the West. He took all sin and He knows His sheep and they recognize His voice. Sheep can wander but, He is the Rock that never wanders and what a foundation. no true Christian "wants" to sin yet, we can lose battles depending whence we come! Some things are ingrained and need to be pealed off layer by layer.
You and others may think those who do not believe as you do, are not saved. And if that is so then, very few indeed will make it through the gates of heaven..

Is this important when satan has closed everyones church and the churches comply

 

[amadeus]

Is this important when satan has closed everyones church and the churches comply

Satan has closed nothing essential to anyone who loves God and seeks to always put Him first.

 

[Alvertsky]

Satan has closed nothing essential to anyone who loves God and seeks to always put Him first.

Churches are closed.

Why are you pretending that this is not happening?

Baptisms are forbidden as water spreads germs

 

[amadeus]

Churches are closed.

Why are you pretending that this is not happening?

Baptisms are forbidden as water spreads germs

God is still here, no matter how many buildings are closed. Do you not believe God is able to take care of His own? Are you not one of His?