A question to those who believe Trump will win

[BarneyFife]

Well, I recall one fellow on here speculating that God may have raised Trump up specifically to expose this nation for what it truly is. He is a reflection of exactly who his kind really are as a people, and they made that crystal clear to the world last week.




And this is exactly the problem, its never YOU, its always someone else's fault. That's exactly why judgement is coming for this nation in particular among all others. Don't want to repent and right the wrongs that have been done? God will surely make a full end of this nation, and I can't wait.

If you only knew...

The USA in Bible Prophecy | Prophecy Code | Amazing Facts

 

[BarneyFife]

An FBI agent and other eye witnesses confirmed at least one large bus load filled with ANTIFA. Now they expected them. They would disguise themselves as Trump supports with the garb but those are the ones who breached the Capital. They let them in. It was a set up. However, reports have come in that there were covert ops as well who confiscated many laptops, Pelosi's for one and this is why they are so desperate. Information on those laptops are incriminating

Sources?

 

[BarneyFife]

But there were also BLM and Antifa agitators leading the few into the capitol. So what you are doing here is what is called A SMEAR CAMPAIGN.

Were you there? Got any sources?

 

[Enoch111]

Were you there? Got any sources?

Yes, I do. I will open a separate thread on "The Truth about January 6".

 

[BarneyFife]

Yes, I do. I will open a separate thread on "The Truth about January 6".

Looking forward to it.

 

[amigo de christo]

I think it is important to realize that the list of people you shared who were prosperous were all from the Old Testament. Can a person be rich and serve the Lord? Absolutely. However, the vast majority of saints are told to be found setting their affections of things above, not on things of the earth.

We are instructed to not set our affections on earthly things for they put us in places where temptations and snares are found. And if we choose to do this, it puts us swimming upstream, so to speak, in America and the West.

However, the truth is, for many at least, that they may not outwardly belong to a Word of Faith type church, or even acknowledge that God has promised prosperity to His children, but their hearts are deeply rooted into material comforts as a measure of success.

All that is going to change, and sooner than many would like. We can do it voluntarily or be "convinced" by the Lord as to the wisdom of godliness with contentment being great gain. But how much more is God pleased with those who set their affections on knowing Him and pleasing Him with their obedience.

We are told to yield ourselves to God as those who are alive from the dead. When eyes are opened to the depths of what that means, our world is going to be turned upside down.

blessings,

Gids

I just remembered what paul and them exhorted the brethren on in acts .
And through much tribulation shall ye enter into the Kingdom . We got chastisments coming . persecutions and harder times
will be coming against the lambs . OH but let all take it patiently for it will work to the good of those who do so .
To the LORD be all glory .

 

[Dcopymope]

I'm white, I'm of Hebrew descent, which means my ancestors were slaves in Egypt for 400 years.
I'm of the tribe of Levi, which means, in my understanding, I'm not of the congregation of Christ.
Though I love them dearly, as does my Lord and Savior, Yeshua ha Moshiach (Jesus Christ).
I am a servant to the body of Christ.

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That's cool and all that you believe you are of the people in the book....but there is a problem with the claim that they were enslaved in Egypt for 400 years. Its a combination of a simple math problem and the king James rendition of that scripture versus what it says in the older Septuagint. I have come to find that plenty was taken out of the Bible. Whether or not it was intentional, or "God ordained", well, I won't even go there, but here is the scripture in the two nonetheless.

KJV:

(Exodus 12:40-41) "¶ Now the sojourning of the children of Israel, who dwelt in Egypt, was four hundred and thirty years. {41} And it came to pass at the end of the four hundred and thirty years, even the selfsame day it came to pass, that all the hosts of the LORD went out from the land of Egypt."

Septuagint:

(Exodus 12:40-41) And the sojourning of the children of Israel, while they sojourned in the land of Egypt and the land of Chanaan, was four hundred and thirty years. 41And it came to pass after the four hundred and thirty years, all the forces of the Lord came forth out of the land of Egypt by night.

Moses grandfather was Kohath, who fathered Amram, who was Moses father. Kohath was among the first to set foot in Egypt, and we are told how old they were from there to the day they died. From Kohath to Moses, you will see they were actually in Egypt for no more than 350 years, not 400. You can look this up yourself. I don't want to turn this into a discussion of Bible Study too much. They didn't enter into Egypt enslaved or into captivity as the 400 year prophecy dictates were to happen either. They instead migrated into Egypt, as we should know, and prospered mightily until the day Joseph died.

It wasn't until the first king that took over from him, that the enslavement and persecution started. So you'd haven to go through a ton of mental gymnastics to say that their days in Egypt fulfills the 400 year prophecy. And we know they weren't in Babylonian captivity, enslaved and afflicted anywhere near 400 years either, or at least we should know that by now. This is where the confusion comes from concerning the time that they actually spent in Egypt. Its mainly due to scripture or key words being removed.

 

[Dcopymope]

Sources?

We're still waiting on those sources you notice. People will say anything to shift the blame from themselves or whatever party or group they affiliate themselves with. And...the irony of some of those clowns brandishing blue lives matter flags.....while assaulting police officers, with fire extinguishers to boot. .......

 

[Bobby Jo]

Lots of self proclaimed "prophets" still claiming that Trump is going to triumph ... These clowns who have been wrong ....

Interesting perspective that a "clown" would declare the winner of a closely contested football game before it's over, -- with nothing more than their ignorance.

Now if a person had a REVELATION, or understood BIBLE PROPHECY, -- then maybe they have unique information. But lacking any such supplemental information, -- it would take a "clown" to conclude what hasn't yet happened, -- i.e., Jan. 20th.


There must be a circus nearby, because there ARE PLENTY of "clowns".
Bobby Jo

 

[Dcopymope]

Interesting perspective that a "clown" would declare the winner of a closely contested football game before it's over, -- with nothing more than their ignorance.

Now if a person had a REVELATION, or understood BIBLE PROPHECY, -- then maybe they have unique information. But lacking any such supplemental information, -- it would take a "clown" to conclude what hasn't yet happened, -- i.e., Jan. 20th.


There must be a circus nearby, because there ARE PLENTY of "clowns".
Bobby Jo

Well you don't need a "revelation" from me. I'm not a prophet. You want "revelation", then read the Bible. It speaks for itself. The only revelation necessary for me to give here was all these "prophets" making a fool of themselves and the "god" they claim to believe in.

 

[Dcopymope]

If God would cause fraudsters Biden and Harris to drop dead together on or before inauguration day, then Trump would indeed win. It ain't over till its over. Has God done such things in the past? Absolutely.

ACTS 12: HEROD GETS HIS JUST DESSERTS
21 And upon a set day Herod, arrayed in royal apparel, sat upon his throne, and made an oration unto them. 22 And the people gave a shout, saying, It is the voice of a god, and not of a man. 23 And immediately the angel of the Lord smote him, because he gave not God the glory: and he was eaten of worms, and gave up the ghost.

Neither Biden, nor Harris, nor any of the Demoncrats have ever given God the glory. So the time may have come when God will smite the evildoers.

.....Cool....so, what's going to be your excuse if this doesn't happen, since you apparently believe the republicans are so righteous and godly? Because you see, to my people, its like the difference between voting for the wolf vs a fox, as Malcolm X brilliantly put it.

Trump = Wolf
Biden = Fox

Which one gets to hold the whip is all this ends up being for my people.

 

[Grailhunter]

‍Well....your nation, as clearly shown linked below as a shining example...or..you know. The people that appropriated my peoples true history for theirs and white washed it, the people that "say they are Jews, and are not" as Jesus put it. The mobs of palm colored folks that assaulted the Capital are exactly the same type of rabid animals my ancestors had to deal with in this country. And I gotta tell you, that what happened is GOOD, so the world can see just how hypocritical this nation really is, that my people have always said it is.

Link: After permit approved for whites-only church, small Minnesota town insists it isn't racist

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There is no such thing as "black supremacy" in a nation that was founded on blacks being at the bottom of the rung, and can only continue to exist if it remains that way. That's what these people are truly upset over, because they see this nations as "theirs". "They are stealing our government, they are stealing our women, they are taking our jobs" is their attitude. They feel they are losing their control, and are afraid. If my people ain't at the bottom poor and destitute, with their foot on my peoples neck, they're "oppressed".......

Grailhunter said: ↑

You are calling the United States a wicked nation....
Who do you think has a god of white supremacy?
‍Well....your nation, as clearly shown linked below as a shining example...or..you know.

What nation you from?


The people that appropriated my peoples true history for theirs and white washed it, the people that "say they are Jews, and are not" as Jesus put it. The mobs of palm colored folks that assaulted the Capital are exactly the same type of rabid animals my ancestors had to deal with in this country. And I gotta tell you, that what happened is GOOD, so the world can see just how hypocritical this nation really is, that my people have always said it is.

Trying to make sense of what you are saying here?
You have a people?
Who took your history?

Grailhunter said: ↑
What do you think of black supremacy

There is no such thing as "black supremacy" in a nation that was founded on blacks being at the bottom of the rung, and can only continue to exist if it remains that way. That's what these people are truly upset over, because they see this nations as "theirs".

This people you talk about, did they participate in the American Revolutionary War?

"They are stealing our government, they are stealing our women, they are taking our jobs" is their attitude. They feel they are losing their control, and are afraid. If my people ain't at the bottom poor and destitute, with their foot on my peoples neck, they're "oppressed".......

"If you can't explain something simply, you don't understand it well enough." "When your back is against the wall.....if you can't run from it, use it." - Alec Ryder "Its hard to put a leash on a dog when you place a crown on its head." - Tyrion Lannister
"You crack our spines and do all you can to break our will. you stab us, then you put the knife in our hand and tell us its our fault. And if you don't do it yourself, you stand by, close your eyes, and pretend there's nothing wrong, and then you pray to your "god" to silence our screams so that you can enjoy the happiness we built for you with our blood. But its not your fault, its the only way you know how to be" - Joe Morton

What I am seeing here is a lot of justification for stupidity and self pity.

A thousand years from now, are “your people” still going to be carrying this chip on their shoulder. Are they still going to be blaming everyone else for their failures?

Black Supremacy---Black Lives Matter. Is there something about the murderous mobs that we should like? Looting, burning, assaulting, and murdering people all over this country. What is there to like? What is there to respect? People do this sort of thing and wonder why they cannot find jobs?…Do they ever stop and ask themselves, who would want to hire them? Who would want to work with them? Who would want their children around them? Who would want them in their neighborhoods? None of this is a mystery! Those that do this sort of thing say they are persecuted, but isn't a sort self fulfilling prophecy? People shun them because they do horrible things?

If some white group used the slogan White Lives Matter, people would go berserker! Some would go berserker just because they are stupid. But most with a brain stem would object because it does not make sense, because it is incredibly rude, and most of all, because it is dirt level stupid.

Hate distorts the mind and this perpetual chip on their shoulder stunts their ability to be responsible for their own actions. Stunts their initiative to make something of themselves, because they blame everyone else for their laziness, blame everyone else for their failures. Oh poor me! The white people are against me! And don’t tell me that “your people” cannot make something of themselves, because I know of plenty that have. So your pity party will not get anywhere with me!

“Your people” you do not have the right to call them your people. Some of the greatest men and woman I have ever known were black! Worked with them and fought side by side with them! Dude, if they are American, they are my people too. America is the melting pot of the world, people use to come to Ellis Island from all over the world and they went through customs. Why did they come? Because this was the place where a person could come and make something of themselves. Not sit down on their duff and play the pity card to have everything handed to them.

Oh my ancestors were slaves! Oh pity me! The truth of the matter is that a lot of people, if they could trace their ancestry back far enough, their ancestors were slaves, white, black, or yellow. Why? For the same reason that the Bible does not condemn slavery. For the same reason that the Israelites were slaves….and…and…owned slaves. There was a time when slavery was the norm, it was part of their society. It continued until people realized that it was wrong. But if every person, white, black, and yellow carried around that pity chip of yours, society would be full of people that were parasites. They would suck the life out of all those that had the initiatives to make something of themselves. But I have no pity for this kind.

 

[Dcopymope]

Grailhunter said: ↑
Trying to make sense of what you are saying here?
You have a people?
Who took your history?

I'd rather PM you about that, if I care to have a conversation about it at all, because it will become readily apparent to you, and all the rest of you as time goes along exactly what I'm talking about. I'm ignoring the rest of your essay long exam, as you compare someone looting a store to a bunch of white supremacists brandishing traitorous confederate flags engaging in an open act of sedition. The ones the media is now telling me, a negro to have "unity" with. I can't take that seriously. ........:

 

[Grailhunter]

I'd rather PM you about that, if I care to have a conversation about it at all, because it will become readily apparent to you, and all the rest of you as time goes along exactly what I'm talking about. I'm ignoring the rest of your essay long exam, as you compare someone looting a store to a bunch of white supremacists brandishing traitorous confederate flags engaging in an open act of sedition. The ones the media is now telling me, a negro to have "unity" with. I can't take that seriously. ........:

Define white supremacy?
Anyone that is white?
Anyone that supports President Trump?
How many white supremacist attacked our cities and looted and burnt and murdered?
How many white supremacists do you see in your delusion?
Most the people at Trump rallies are not white supremacists.
Most of the people at the Trump rally in Washington DC were not white supremacists.
What do you call the people that loot, burn, assault, and murder.
What do you call people that attack and or kill law enforcement officers...white and black?
Let me see....what was that Black Panther movement?
NO pity from me.

 

[Addy]

Define white supremacy?
Anyone that is white?
Anyone that supports President Trump?
How many white supremacist attacked our cities and looted and burnt and murdered?
How many white supremacists do you see in your delusion?
Most the people at Trump rallies are not white supremacists.
Most of the people at the Trump rally in Washington DC were not white supremacists.
What do you call the people that loot, burn, assault, and murder.
What do you call people that attack and or kill law enforcement officers...white and black?
Let me see....what was that Black Panther movement?
NO pity from me.

You're in fine form this very early morning >>> LOL

 

[Grailhunter]

You're in fine form this very early morning >>> LOL

All conditions normal! lol

 

[Dcopymope]

Define white supremacy?

Well, white supremacy, or more correctly termed white privilege is when I can assault a federal building, THE federal building of the country armed with spears, zip ties, automatic pistols, can even kill a police officer, and spread poop and piss all over the walls and floor and only get a misdemeanor charge at best. The country has spoken because they know exactly what they saw nationwide. If they were black, they never would have gotten on those steps. There would have been dead bodies in the streets.

Anyone that is white?

...Anyone that condones it is a white supremacist.

 

[Grailhunter]

Well, white supremacy, or more correctly termed white privilege is when I can assault a federal building, THE federal building of the country armed with spears, zip ties, automatic pistols, can even kill a police officer, and spread poop and piss all over the walls and floor and only get a misdemeanor charge at best. The country has spoken because they know exactly what they saw nationwide. If they were black, they never would have gotten on those steps. There would have been dead bodies in the streets.




...Anyone that condones it is a white supremacist.

Ok this is simple stuff.
How many people were in that building?
The FBI is investigating...they have posted signs...using facial recognition.
How many blacks attacked all those cities, looting, burning, assaulting and murdering.
Around 25 people murdered and around a thousand injured....Now what do we call these people?
But out of all those people in those BLM riots, how many are in jail? How hard is the FBI looking for them?
Are they tracking them down using facial recognition?
Either way, those at the Capitol building were criminals and the BLM rioters were criminals.
But the blacks mostly get the free pass.
You should be insulted by that! Why? The blacks have conditioned the American society to look at it like natives in a Tarzan movie. Oh the natives are restless!
Not as equals that should be held accountable for their actions. It is insulting to the black community. They expect that type of character from them.

 

[Addy]

Well, white supremacy, or more correctly termed white privilege is when I can assault a federal building, THE federal building of the country armed with spears, zip ties, automatic pistols, can even kill a police officer, and spread poop and piss all over the walls and floor and only get a misdemeanor charge at best. The country has spoken because they know exactly what they saw nationwide. If they were black, they never would have gotten on those steps. There would have been dead bodies in the streets.

Good morning.... I recognize some of your anger.... I used to possess this myself with regards to Christian Doctrines... Yours is even deeper than mine was ( the anger)... because I suspect you are speaking as one who has both seen and been persecuted and treated unfairly by these "white people". I myself am a white woman as far as what I am LABELLED and accepted as being.... With that said... I do see the white privilege... In all honesty... even though I am a quiet person and keep to myself... I probably even contribute to white privilege....It stems from having been BORN into it. I do believe in the saying... It's a RICH white man's world... I think I know what that looks like and feels like... but not all white people feel this or see it. ( I haven't had my morning coffee yet ... forgive me for rambling ).... Anyways.

All the above to say that I agree with some of your assessment about double standards... However... I do believe that those who were caught in Capital Hill WILL be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. I think they will be made examples of because of where they chose to attack... so you might want to be thankful that people of colour were NOT able to get close enough to the steps...let alone the building.
The crime on January 6th... was HORRIFIC... committed by WHITE people... and their lives are now FOREVER changed... they will be black listed for the rest of their lives.

I am sorry for the injustices that happen in this world... I hate them... all of them... Be comforted... Be filled with peace... and know that you are loved by GOD ( who does NOT ever discriminate, or try to dominate ).

 

[Grailhunter]

Good morning.... recognize some of your anger.... I used to possess this myself with regards to Christian Doctrines... Yours is even deeper than mine was ( the anger)... because I suspect you are speaking as one who has both seen and been persecuted and treated unfairly by these "white people". I myself am a white woman as far as what I am LABELLED and accepted as being.... With that said... I do see the white privilege... In all honesty... even though I am a quiet person and keep to myself... I probably even contribute to white privilege....It stems from having been BORN into it. I do believe in the saying... It's a RICH white man's world... I think I know what that looks like and feels like... but not all white people feel this or see it. ( I haven't had my morning coffee yet ... forgive me for rambling ).... Anyways.

All the above to say that I agree with some of your assessment about double standards... However... I do believe that those who were caught in Capital Hill WILL be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. I think they will be made examples of because of where they chose to attack... so you might want to be thankful that people of colour were NOT able to get close enough to the steps...let alone the building.
The crime on January 6th... was HORRIFIC... committed by WHITE people... and their lives are now FOREVER changed... they will be black listed for the rest of their lives.

I am sorry for the injustices that happen in this world... I hate them... all of them... Be comforted... Be filled with peace... and know that you are loved by GOD ( who does NOT ever discriminate, or try to dominate ).

Amen