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The Didache is one of the earliest written documents of the Church other than Scripture itself. It was written sometime between 90 and 110 AD. It may not have had a single author but may have been compiled from the Apostolic Teaching as a kind of early catechism and a summary of the essential moral tenets of the Faith. It’s existence demonstrates that many current teachings of the faith, often under attack by modernity, are in fact very ancient, going right back to the beginning. Let’s take a look at some excerpts from the Didache that are especially pertinent for today’s controversies. My comments are in red after the italicized quotes. The Full text of the Didache is available here: DIDACHE
Ancient Witnesses to The Catholic Faith: The Didache - Community in Mission
So, it is not the scripture but some writing about something?

You call that inerrant?

Do you believe all other commentary too?

Sola Scriptura.
 

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Please stop....just be honest. Peter didn’t teach you. That’s a copout!!!! If you are to embarrassed to tell me then that’s fine but stop with the silliness.

Clement of Rome, according to historical writings, was taught by Peter. I wonder how your teachings....i mean reiterations....match up with his teachings!!! So please stop your silly claim.
Mary, if you ever decide you want to discuss scripture let me know. If you want to continue to accuse me of this, that and the other thing... By all means feel free to. I won't be responding any longer.
 

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What a Bizarre rant....

You can take comfort in knowing that since you are Protestant you will always be right and everyone else will always be wrong because YOU were personally guided by the Spirit into the truth.....That makes you a church of ONE and a cult of ONE kiddo. Which means you will never be a participant in the fulfillment of Jesus prayer that we all become one with one teaching one belief one faith.

You will always be on the outside looking in....:(

Calling me a "kiddo" makes you a typical carnal Catholic..

Now, here is the thing.....to say a rant is "bizzare" while you have nothing you can say to even try to dispute it....is pretty much your final answer.

And i have no desire to become a part of the "cult of Mary".
And remember, that term was created in about 5AD by "church fathers", not by Protestants....
So, no, i will have nothing to do with such a bible rejecting Cross defying situation.
Help yourself.
 

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Calling me a "kiddo" makes you a typical carnal Catholic..

Now, here is the thing.....to say a rant is "bizzare" while you have nothing you can say to even try to dispute it....is pretty much your final answer.

And i have no desire to become a part of the "cult of Mary".
And remember, that term was created in about 5AD by "church fathers", not by Protestants....
So, no, i will have nothing to do with such a bible rejecting Cross defying situation.
Help yourself.

the mother of God Lk 1:43
Mother of our salvation Lk 2:30
Perpetual Virgin Isa 7:14
Sinless Lk 1:28 gen 3:15 rev 12
Immaculate conception Lk 1:49
Blessed Lk 1:28
And our mother Jn 18:26-27
 

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There is only one true church founded by Christ on Peter and the apostles and their successors is the new covenant body of Christ! Matt 1:18 One fold
Jn 10:16 the household of faith! Gal 6:10

faith outside the church and what the church teaches is not true faith

Three things are eternal (and therefore inseparable) faith, hope, & charity, and the greatest of these is charity! 1 cor 13
“Faith alone” never
For if any say justification is by faith alone let him be anathema
 

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Mary, if you ever decide you want to discuss scripture let me know. If you want to continue to accuse me of this, that and the other thing... By all means feel free to. I won't be responding any longer.
Ummmm....It has been discussed. Remember, you responded to my post. You disagree with a 2,000 year teaching of Christianity. I don’t. That’s what we discussed....remember?

You claim to be a student of Peter. How old are you? Not 2,000 years old i presume

Thank you
 

Marymog

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What Gospel would the Devil preach?
What is his Gospel?

Its everything that substitutes for the Cross and the Blood of Jesus as the means to be saved and born again.

THe Devil's gospel is a FAITH Substitute....

Get rid of "FAITH ALONE", is what the Devil's Gospel is all about.

2 of your Catholic Brothers are all over the Forum, saying that God does not just accept FAITH, to save you.
He accepts WATER, self effort, and not just Faith.

So, THAT, is the devil's Gospel, as it has denied God's Blood Atonement, by changing it into Water + the Cross. The Cross + Works.
Or as one of your deceived brothers said today....>"you cant be saved outside of the Catholic Church".

So, really?
Paul wasn't a Catholic.
Jude wasn't a Catholic.
James, Mark, Thomas.....>NOPE.
Mary wasn't a Catholic...........really.
How about that?

I personally dont care if you worship mary, twist beads, or take the sacrament thinking you are eating the living Jesus.... and do penance year round..
That is just harmless cult stuff, that is found inside the walls of your religion.
But once you teach against the sanctity of the BLood of Christ in a way that offends the Blood Atonement and the Cross, by denying how God offers "the GIFT of Salvation"..., then CULT and DEVIL'S GOSPEL, is what you have become.
FAITH ALONE was created out of thin air in the 16th century which is the same century The Church splintered and was no longer One. It is a teaching/tradition of men.

Paul, James, Jude Mark Thomas and Mary were Catholic.

Catholic defined: of, relating to, or forming the ancient undivided Christian church or a church claiming historical continuity from it

Sooooo that is ONE reason why your rant is bizarre. You don’t even know the definition of Catholic.

None the less you will never convince me to follow your teachings and I will never convince you so we should part ways....on good terms i hope?
 

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Ummmm....It has been discussed. Remember, you responded to my post.

No. I responded to a post by Theefaith. We were discussing infant baptism and Acts 2. That was post 1652. YOU responded to my post to Theefaith (1652). Your response was post 1673. By the way, your post had very little to do with what I was talking about with him. You derailed the conversation, and yea... I knew you were doing it. I simply went along.

So yes, I did respond to your post despite it being off topic. But no... I didn't initiate as you seem to be insinuating. No matter. You don't seem to want to talk scripture; you only want to prop up the Catholic Church (which, by the way.... I haven't even mentioned ONCE).

So goodbye Mary. That's all.
 

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The Cistercian monks who were beheaded were taken hostage SOLELY because they were Christians by one of the most militant Islamist movements at the time (Groupe Islamique Armé/GIA).

Funny how you completely ignored all of the other examples I presented of ascetics martyred for their faith - such as . . .
- The Carthhusian monks who were slaughtered for their faith by the Ottoman invaders near Vienna in 1529.

- The FORTY monks in the London charterhouse who were drawn and quartered ALIVE by Protestant butchers during the English Reformation in 1537.

- The 800 priests and monks that were rounded up and persecuted during the French Revolution for their faith- ALL of whom died by 1794 in captivity because of the inhumane conditions?

ALL examples of people living the ascetic life - and DYING for theyr faith in maryrdom.
Sorry BOL, I've been in Christianity Board Purgatory for the last 3 weeks, for a slanderous remark that I made to another member, ...and to think, I was actually holding back my true sentiments.
...point is, i forget where this began.
Ok, I'll concede that many monks were martyred for their faith, but John the Baptist may have been an ascetic or Essene, as much as Elijah the Tishbite made a vow of ascetism - it was circumstance, not an avowal of self-mortification.
 

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Gods preserved truth does reside in one circumscribable and definable body. It resides in the Church....just like Scripture says: 1 Timothy 3:15

I have found that Church.
The church is the body of christ, those of the faith of Abraham, not a parameterized stone building with concrete foundations.
 

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No silly, the adult Jews' covenant was circumcision on all their males(only)....no females.

Circumcision was akin to putting a "faith mark" on folks...that's it.

The RCC got mixed up and think circumcision is the equivalent to water baptism for their infants....then also, un-scripturally, adding the (spiritual circumcision) of the baby girls to the fray by default.
Thanks for that hopelessly ignorant Scriptural explanation.

Now, let's read what Paul wrote, under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit:
Col. 2:11-12

In him also you were circumcised with a circumcision made without hands, by putting off the body of flesh in the circumcision of Christ; and you were buried with him in BAPTISM, in which you were also raised with him through faith in the working of God, who raised him from the dead

Baptism is the fulfillment of circumcision, Einstein . . .
 

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Sorry BOL, I've been in Christianity Board Purgatory for the last 3 weeks, for a slanderous remark that I made to another member, ...and to think, I was actually holding back my true sentiments.
...point is, i forget where this began.
Ok, I'll concede that many monks were martyred for their faith, but John the Baptist may have been an ascetic or Essene, as much as Elijah the Tishbite made a vow of ascetism - it was circumstance, not an avowal of self-mortification.
We'll never know what was in John's heart - but Paul recommended mortification of the flesh as a more excellent way to serve God - just as he did celibacy.
 
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No, im just showing you again and again, that water is not related to Spiritual Birth.
If you find this "idiotic" then blame your church.
They invented the heresy.

Now as i told you.
You are responsible to not be deceived by "water Cults".
So far, you have not been able to even realize it.
Perhaps one day you will.
Thats my hope.
Nonsese.

As I educated you before - you have to completely ignore the entire first THREE chapters of John's Gospel to arrive at the moronic idea that Water Baptism is a "Catholic invention". You also have to erase many Scripture verses and somehow try to pretend that the Didache (Teachings of the Twelve Apostles) was never writen.

Good luck with that . . .
 

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FAITH ALONE was created out of thin air in the 16th century which is the same century The Church splintered and was no longer One. It is a teaching/tradition of men.

Paul, James, Jude Mark Thomas and Mary were Catholic.

Catholic defined: of, relating to, or forming the ancient undivided Christian church or a church claiming historical continuity from it

Sooooo that is ONE reason why your rant is bizarre. You don’t even know the definition of Catholic.

None the less you will never convince me to follow your teachings and I will never convince you so we should part ways....on good terms i hope?
The Catholic Church, despite it's pretentious title, is not Catholic. The Papacy departed from any true relationship with Christ when she married the empire. Spiritual adultery when she abandoned Christ for politicians and they Kings of the world. The true Catholic faith resided in those who from the beginning opposed such a monstrous falling away from truth and we're persecuted by the Roman church for their troubles.
 

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We'll never know what was in John's heart - but Paul recommended mortification of the flesh as a more excellent way to serve God - just as he did celibacy.
I agree with you, and highly recommend such a disposition of self-discipline and allowing the Spirit to take precedence over the flesh. But, not to the point of isolation, or where the focus becomes solely on debasing the flesh. That is, the oxymoron of denying the flesh, while spending your entire life and dedication in monitoring its deprivation. You see the irony?

The point is that we need not hide from society to express our devotion to Christ and our transcendence of the flesh. For, the true strength comes in living amongst the desires and not succumbing to them. In one small sense, this is exactly what Christ did, he consorted with the depraved of society, in order to reveal his ability to overcome temptation.

This is the sign of victory, in that it is not impressive or efficacious to protect oneself from the world in order to overcome it. Face it, and rebuke it.
 

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Nonsese.

As I educated you before - you have to completely ignore the entire first THREE chapters of John's Gospel to arrive at the moronic idea that Water Baptism is a "Catholic invention".


Educate yourself, fallen one.

Listen carefully...
All water cults replace the Gospel of the Grace of God with "water baptism".
That includes yours.
Bottom line.
 

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We'll never know what was in John's heart - but Paul recommended mortification of the flesh as a more excellent way to serve God - just as he did celibacy.

Paul did recommend celibacy, but that recommendation is based on God equipping you to exist in this lifestyle.
Where the CC makes a mess of this is by forcing their Priest's to exist as celibate, which is not scriptural.
The end result?
= Pedophilia.