How long will the Man of Lawlessness Be Sitting in Your Temple?

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quietthinker

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Where did you come up with this idea? When did it ever mean this in Old Testament times? And how can you see this standing in the holy place as Jesus prophesied?

matt 24: 15 “Therefore when you see the ‘abomination of desolation,’ spoken of by Daniel the prophet, standing in the holy place” (whoever reads, let him understand),
the principle is throughout scripture......its application throughout time.
 

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your own mouth is your witness!
You're just nit-picking on non-essentials, because the Man of Lawlessness has been exposed in your Temple, and as the Father of Lies that he is, has to create deflections.

And out of my mouth, the satan is CONSUMED! - I Thess 2:8.
 

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What if the messenger was only a judaizer assassinating Paul’s character?
Too the rest of the body.
If he was we could tell because we could use the word to test the spirit, sadly I believe many are decieved by spirits because they have not studied the word well, or they have listened blindly to their leaders and were led astray, there will be differences in our beliefs, this is to be expected. But some just want to,attack God and his people claiming to be a messenger of God
 
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Yes I do - "a spiritual man judges ALL THINGS" - I cor 2:15. What can I say, I have 'Good Judgment', what with having the Two Witnesses guiding me.
Since those Two Witnesses have not even appeared on earth, and you have very poor judgment, we have a serious problem right here. You need to ask yourself as to who is guiding you into false doctrines.
 

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Why don't you go outside and start 'witnessing' to the 'unsaved' in hopes you can lead them to Jesus before he returns to geographical Israel and sends them to E T E R N A L D A M N A T I O N.
You should be getting your own visit here real soon. We will see what they think of you
 

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Since those Two Witnesses have not even appeared on earth, and you have very poor judgment, we have a serious problem right here. You need to ask yourself as to who is guiding you into false doctrines.

You've been duped by Seducing Spirits and Doctrines of Devils.
Rev 1:3 and 22:10 states THESE THINGS ARE AT HAND.
Obviously, like the masses, you have no clue of the Book of Revelation.
And because you are an 'Earth Dweller' you're tormented:
Rev 11:10
And they that dwell upon the earth shall rejoice over them, and make merry, and shall send gifts one to another; because these two prophets tormented them that dwelt on the earth.
 

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You should be getting your own visit here real soon. We will see what they think of you
Oh, the Council of Ahithophel.
Yeah, they're just insecure punks operating in the dense darkness of the carnal mind, what kind of hacks run a dead religious site like this? -
The Talking Dead.
 

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Oh, the Council of Ahithophel.
Yeah, they're just insecure punks operating in the dense darkness of the carnal mind, what kind of hacks run a dead religious site like this? -
The Talking Dead.
I will just stand by until those in charge come and say what they think of your behavior.
 

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Again, please show me this. The term abomination of desolation is not used that often, it should be easy for you to do.
We can start in Eden.....Eve exchanged the truth for a lie....she believed it (it entered her heart)...what? the abomination of desolation!.....and as per God's promise she became subject to death. As stated earlier, this principle is illustrated throughout scripture and Israel's history.
 

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We can start in Eden.....Eve exchanged the truth for a lie....she believed it (it entered her heart)...what? the abomination of desolation!.....and as per God's promise she became subject to death. As stated earlier, this principle is illustrated throughout scripture and Israel's history.
Thats not answering my question my friend. Show me where that was called an abomination of desolation.

please remember the Hebrew word for abomination means an unclean thing, an idol,

Here do not just take my word for it, here is the defenition from a hebrew source

9199 שִׁקּוּץ (šiq·qûṣ): n.masc.; ≡ Str 8251; TWOT 2459b—1. LN 53.33–53.40 vileness, i.e., a state of detestable uncleanness (Hos 9:10+); 2. LN 53.33–53.40 vile idol, i.e., an idol, and the pagan god which it represents, with a special focus of being an abominable, repulsive thing which causes covenantal uncleanness (Dt 29:16[EB 17]; 1Ki 11:5, 7; 2Ki 23:13,24; 2Ch 15:8; Isa 66:3; Jer 4:1; 7:30; 13:27; 16:18; 32:34; Eze 5:11; 7:20; 11:18, 21; 20:7, 8, 30; 37:23+), see also domain LN 6.96–6.101; 3. LN 53.33–53.40 filth, i.e., a vile object which can be thrown, and contact brings abhorrence and uncleanness (Na 3:6+); 4. LN 53.33–53.40 forbidden food, i.e., any of the food which cause uncleanness (Zec 9:7+), see also domain LN 5.1–5.22; 5. LN 53.33–53.40 unit: שִׁקּוּץ שָׁמֵם (šiq·qûṣ šā·mēm)1 abomination that causes desolation, a horrible thing which defiles, i.e., an object or event causing the vacating of a holy site (Da 9:27; 11:31;
 

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If he was we could tell because we could use the word to test the spirit, sadly I believe many are decieved by spirits because they have not studied the word well, or they have listened blindly to their leaders and were led astray, there will be differences in our beliefs, this is to be expected. But some just want to,attack God and his people claiming to be a messenger of God
1 Corinthians 9:1-3 KJV
[1] Am I not an apostle? am I not free? have I not seen Jesus Christ our Lord? are not ye my work in the Lord? [2] If I be not an apostle unto others, yet doubtless I am to you: for the seal of mine apostleship are ye in the Lord. [3] Mine answer to them that do examine me is this,
 

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Thats not answering my question my friend. Show me where that was called an abomination of desolation.

please remember the Hebrew word for abomination means an unclean thing, an idol,

Here do not just take my word for it, here is the defenition from a hebrew source

9199 שִׁקּוּץ (šiq·qûṣ): n.masc.; ≡ Str 8251; TWOT 2459b—1. LN 53.33–53.40 vileness, i.e., a state of detestable uncleanness (Hos 9:10+); 2. LN 53.33–53.40 vile idol, i.e., an idol, and the pagan god which it represents, with a special focus of being an abominable, repulsive thing which causes covenantal uncleanness (Dt 29:16[EB 17]; 1Ki 11:5, 7; 2Ki 23:13,24; 2Ch 15:8; Isa 66:3; Jer 4:1; 7:30; 13:27; 16:18; 32:34; Eze 5:11; 7:20; 11:18, 21; 20:7, 8, 30; 37:23+), see also domain LN 6.96–6.101; 3. LN 53.33–53.40 filth, i.e., a vile object which can be thrown, and contact brings abhorrence and uncleanness (Na 3:6+); 4. LN 53.33–53.40 forbidden food, i.e., any of the food which cause uncleanness (Zec 9:7+), see also domain LN 5.1–5.22; 5. LN 53.33–53.40 unit: שִׁקּוּץ שָׁמֵם (šiq·qûṣ šā·mēm)1 abomination that causes desolation, a horrible thing which defiles, i.e., an object or event causing the vacating of a holy site (Da 9:27; 11:31;
Where shall I start?....consider your understanding/interpretation of the word 'abomination' (which incidentally, I think is correct). The actual word 'abomination' does not need to be used in order to convey its operative principle. Its principle is there in the context.

A lie imbibed is akin to having it in the heart (sitting in the temple, even on the throne).

Seen from this perspective, there is a seamless narrative throughout scripture of the how evil tries to usurp good by replacing it with itself. It is recorded in the history of individuals and of the nation Israel. The principle will continue to the end of time. It has yet to culminate in what I see the scripture call 'the great tribulation' where the opposing sides will be manifest to all inhabitants of Heaven and Earth.
 

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Where shall I start?....consider your understanding/interpretation of the word 'abomination' (which incidentally, I think is correct). The actual word 'abomination' does not need to be used in order to convey its operative principle. Its principle is there in the context.

A lie imbibed is akin to having it in the heart (sitting in the temple, even on the throne).

Seen from this perspective, there is a seamless narrative throughout scripture of the how evil tries to usurp good by replacing it with itself. It is recorded in the history of individuals and of the nation Israel. The principle will continue to the end of time. It has yet to culminate in what I see the scripture call 'the great tribulation' where the opposing sides will be manifest to all inhabitants of Heaven and Earth.
I agree with you that evil does do,this

I can’t agree with you that is an abomination of desolation. Especially in the context of prophecy.