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Featured How long will the Man of Lawlessness Be Sitting in Your Temple?

Discussion in 'Eschatology & Prophecy Forum' started by Magdalene, Feb 24, 2021.

  1. friend of

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    It is appointed for man to die once, after this is the judgement

    Out of curiosity, who are the two witnesses? Thanks and God bless!
     
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    Laurel and Hardy were famed for their wit
    it came from the place we all go to s...... ,
    In quiet reflection we sit on that throne
    and cast around thoughts that are bare to the bone,
    Soon up we arise, we've found laughter and glee
    from the great revelation of myself and me,

    It's blown to the air like chaff to the wind
    the laughter reflected confirms we've a win,
    And knighted we are, the witnesses cry
    through belly ached doubling or tears or sighs,
    The popular vote has spoken we see
    ahhh, the glorified loner of myself and me.

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    To be honest God sits in my temple. I am in Christ and he is in me. That's the way it works when you're sealed with the holy spirit of promise.
     
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    Hello @Magdalene,

    That is a good analogy that you have made, I would not have thought of that. Though the words of 2 Thessalonians 2:3-4 refers to the temple of God in Jerusalem at the end of the age, and of the 'son of perdition' who will exalt himself in that day. Yet the enemy of our souls seeks to usurp God's place in our individual lives too, which are the temple of God. He desires worship, and would dethrone God from the throne of our heart if He could.

    Yet we as Christ's church are also being built up corporately as a habitation of God, we need to ensure that the enemy of our souls is not given place among us, in the doctrines that we teach or the practices we initiate. They should reflect only what God wills, and what is written for us in His Word, unshackled by the doctrines applicable to a past dispensation.

    Thank you
    In Christ Jesus
    Chris
     
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    Hello again, @Magdalene,

    I met someone recently on another forum, user name 'Amethyst',who spoke similarly, and with the same attitude towards those who participated in her threads, and she was banned, after initiating only two threads. I hope you are not the same person under another name. The forum was 'Talk Jesus', where I take part occasionally under the user name of 'Complete'.

    Thank you
    In Christ Jesus
    Chris
     
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    The Temple in the Thessalonians passage need not be a stone Temple - it might be the Temple that is Us.

    Paul wrote of both Temples - even had his head shaved and took a vow at the stone Temple - but I feel he was pushed into that by James.

    After ten posts I will exist.
     
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    I think at least TWO "abominations of desolation" have ALREADY HAPPENNED.

    Circa 164 BC - Antiochus Epiphanes sacrificed a pig on the altar in Jerusalem.

    Yet Jesus spoke of ABOMINATION OF DESOLATION as FUTURE TO HIM - and most associate that with events leading up to 70 AD destruction of Temple - with Roman standards standing where they ought not.

    Is there another AofD to come in a stone temple not yet built?

    How many times did Paul write of the inner temple which is us - and how often of a stone temple (which was indeed still standing all his life).

    Can the two NT words used for TEMPLE shed any light?
     
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    This was an alt account for someone recently banned. They have been found out and banned, so don't expect a reply until they rejoin under false pretenses again.
     
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    naos and hieron are 2 Greek words for Temple
     
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    One and the same. Rude.
     
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    This is my 4th post

    soon I will be human
     
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    @Nancy, I saw that you "liked" my post. Have you ever noticed how that Revelation 9:1 speaks of a star falling from heaven? And then it goes on to speak of this "fallen star" as an entity who is given a key to the bottomless pit.

    There's another verse that speaks of the key to the bottomless pit and it is given to quite another entity for a completely different reason!

    Revelation 20:1-3 (KJV) ¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯ ¹ And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand. ² And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years, ³ And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season.

    This is just something I'm asking the Lord about based on the specific wording used. It appears to me that Rev 9:1 is speaking of a fallen angel who is allowed to open the bottomless pit. The only other times I see in scripture where angels fall is related to satan/lucifer and in Jude in relation to the angels who fell, left their first estate and committed abomination.

    So one is given the key to open the bottomless pit...and another is given the key to close it. (Just my observations, things I'm pondering and asking Him about.)
     
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    Thank you for your Prompt response
     
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    That is a theory, speculation at best. I used to listen to guys like Chuck Missler (a brilliant teacher), who wrote a book about the Nephilim (a supposed hybrid of demon and man) and considered this view the same way as you do, that they existed and would return someday. The more I read those specific scriptures, the more I doubted that theory.
    There is an alternative and more realistic interpretation of those scriptures. That they were large men, men who once lived prior to the flood for hundreds of years. The earth had a different environment back then, a water canopy that blocked out the harmful rays of the sun (which destroys cells) and allowed them to live longer and grow larger - just men though, not hybrids. Dinosaurs co-existed with them. We know that lizards do not stop growing. Turtles lives 150 years. Imagine a croc growing for 1000 years, 10 x the size, how big would it get - as big as a dinosaur! Obviously God, through Noah, did not allow these harmful, deadly creatures on the Ark and so they became extinct. Although some who swelled in the ocean or lakes survived (Levitation, Behemoth, the whale. Maybe the Lockness Monster was not myth - a dinosaur that dwelled beneath in caverns connected to this lake. ???
    The idea of a hybrid fallen angel/man begs the question: Why would God create angels with the ability to procreate, when in His foreknowledge, He would see such an abominatible mating occur? I DO NOT BELIEVE HE CREATED ANGELS WITH THAT ABILITY - IT WASN'T HIS PURPOSE. He created man with the ability to procreate, be fruitful and multiply, not angels. Angels are agents of God, to do His will and though a 1/3 of them rebelled against Him, He allowed it for His purpose - because it actually works within His purpose - that we know good and evil. In order to understand what good is, we must be exposed to its opposite in order to appreciate who God and His attributes.
    So "sons of God mating with daughters of men" can be understood as godly men mating with ungodly women - it's similar to being unequally yoked today.
    Goliah was supposed 10 feet tall and so were his parents and grandparents large. We've seen a man 8'10" in the 20th century, and Andre the giant - just large men. And who knows, Adam and Eve could have been 10-12 feet tall?

    Yes, the world is under Satan's rule now - it seems obvious with this Pandemic/ NWO.
    Okay, scientific research apart from God goes way off track. Many biologists are atheists and hence adopt the Theory of Evolution (Macro Evolution). Many Astronomers and Astro-physicists are as well. They search the heavens for answers to disprove that God exists. The Hubbel Telescope and SETI were purposed for just that- the demise of God, hoping and desperately seeking answers to disprove our Judeo/Christian beliefs and the Bible.
    The CERN's attempt to discover the God particle (Boson), is just another attempt to find a causal force, a beginning or answer - apart from God. They are all blind attempts. They cannot find the missing parts to the equation of what holds this physical universe together. They can infer extra dimensions through theoretical Quantum physics. They speculate about quarks and worm holes, black holes, etc., and these will just remain unproven theories and mysteries to them because what holds this physical universe together exists outside of It, in another dimension, the spiritual realm. It is Jesus that holds every atom in the universe together - not some boson particle.
    As for Revelation 9, the star that falls from heaven is in fact an angel, He opens the abyss. This fallen angel could be Satan or his princes?
    What I think happens can be likened to a super-volcanic eruption in the area of the wilderness outside of Jerusalem ( where btw, Jesus cast out demons into the pigs who pleaded for him not to send them to the Abyss); and where the Jews believed that demons dwelled below the surface; where the whole Syria/African Rift has a history of volcanic activity; where also Sodom and Gomorah were swallowed up with fire from beneath the ground and where Jesus was tempted ny Satan himself). This angel opens the Abyss by causing a super-volcanic eruption that splits a fissure deep within the earth and out comes smoke "like from a furnace". Out if the smike comes a demonic hirde of locusts that sting and torture those with the mark of the Beast.
    This coincides with Jesus return, when He puts his feet on a mountain in Jerusalem and it's splits in two - causing a great fissure in the earth. The Gehenna was in this area as well, the perpetual burning dump used for dead and diseased bodies, which gave us an concept of Hell/Lake of Fire. Well, a massive volcanic eruption could create a Lake of Fire right on earth.
     
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    You are welcome. It perplexes me why a liar would think themselves worthy of having, let alone teaching God's Truth. As through their regurgitated heretical indoctrination is God's gift to the world.

    But they reveal themselves not only by what they teach, but mainly by how they act. An unregenerated person devoid of the Spirit can not go long without expressing their carnality.
     
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    why would that make giants?
     
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    Lol, exactly! I don't see that as being very scientific. If that were the case, we'd see a lot more 9+ft tall people walking around the earth!
     
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    I'm sorry, @Ronald David Bruno, but I will stick with the Scriptures which also confirm what I have experienced and seen with my own eyes.

    The book of Jude explains plainly what the sins of the fallen angels were... "even as Sodom and Gomorrha...in like manner" ...fornication, going after "strange flesh."

    Jude 1:6-7 (KJV) ¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯ ⁶ And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day. ⁷ Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire.
     
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    I discussed that the giants were a result of the pre-flood world, where people lived longer and therefore were larger. So post-flood descendants would genetically be larger and then become smaller, due to God putting a limit on human life of 120 years and the different environment.
    Genesis 6:4

    "The Nephilim were on the earth in those days, and also afterward, when the sons of God came in to the daughters of men, and they bore children to them. Those were the mighty men who were of old, men of renown." GEN. 6:4
    It says those were men, nit something different.

    "There also we saw the Nephilim (the sons of Anak are part of the Nephilim); and we became like grasshoppers in our own sight, and so we were in their sight.”
    Num. 13:33
    Giants we large men, like Goliath.
    10 feet tall.
    You can believe what you want, just putting an alternate view out there.
     
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    Pre-flood had nothing to do with it, as the scripture says "in those days; and also after that" ...meaning, after the flood.
     
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