I love lamb. The Greeks make it great.it was a sacrifice pointing to the sacrifice of Christ
They had to kill the lamb
Sprinkle the blood
And eat the lamb
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I love lamb. The Greeks make it great.it was a sacrifice pointing to the sacrifice of Christ
They had to kill the lamb
Sprinkle the blood
And eat the lamb
Repentance and faith was tossed out for infant baptism?Acts 16:15
And when she was baptized, and herhousehold, she besought us, saying, If ye have judged me to be faithful to the Lord, come into my house, and abide there. And she constrained us.
it does not say accept infants!
Then why does he lose 500 disciples over it instead of simply explaining it Spiritually cos he meant it “this is my body” and in the Passover you have to eat the lamb
I have supper every night. What he said to copy was to eat the bread in remembrance of his sacrifice. Not just eat a meal.They were having a supper.
Just mimic that.
1 Cor 11 shows the saints celebrating it as a meal.I have supper every night. What he said to copy was to eat the bread in remembrance of his sacrifice. Not just eat a meal.
Repentance and faith was tossed out for infant baptism?
Where does it say he lost 500 disciples?
28 Then they asked him, “What must we do to do the works God requires?”
29 Jesus answered, “The work of God is this: to believe in the one he has sent.”
30 So they asked him, “What sign then will you give that we may see it and believe you? What will you do? 31 Our ancestors ate the manna in the wilderness; as it is written: ‘He gave them bread from heaven to eat.’”
32 Jesus said to them, “Very truly I tell you, it is not Moses who has given you the bread from heaven, but it is my Father who gives you the true bread from heaven. 33 For the bread of God is the bread that comes down from heaven and gives life to the world.”
34 “Sir,” they said, “always give us this bread.”
35 Then Jesus declared, “I am the bread of life. Whoever comes to me will never go hungry, and whoever believes in me will never be thirsty.
It could not be spelled out more clearly. He lost "disciples" who were following him because of the miracle. Because they understood this man could give them free stuff. They didn't come to him for spiritual food, and had no interest in taking up their crosses and following him.
WEAK comparison.The disciples didn't drink literal blood and neither do we. They didn't eat literal flesh and would have been horrified at the thought. Christ may be present in the elements without the elements being anything other than what they are.
Jesus' words should be seen in the context of many parables and figurative references. For example, Jesus says, "I am the Vine" (John 15:1), the Door (John 10:9), the Bread (John 6:41). Jesus' main method of teaching was through parables; for Jesus, parables were not the exception but the rule, though when necessary he explained the parables to his disciples (Mark 4:34).
WRONG.Jesus held the bread in his hand when he said "This is my body," at the same time that the disciples could see his physical body. There was a clear distinction between the two. The context therefore requires a figurative interpretation.
The phrase "this cup is a new covenant" (Luke 22:20) surely doesn't mean that the physical cup is the new covenant. That phrase is clearly symbolic and figurative. So are the words about the bread being Jesus' body.
John 6:27-59 uses bold terms to explain a spiritual feeding on Christ. This passage concludes, "The Spirit gives life; the flesh counts for nothing. The words I have spoken to you are spirit and they are life" (John 6:63), suggesting a figurative feeding rather than a literal, bodily feeding.
WRONG.The Real Presence (rather than a spiritual presence) in the elements isn't taught in the early church for at least 75 years and perhaps twice that. If the Real Presence and transubstantiation were the church's primitive understanding, you'd expect much earlier a clear exposition of this doctrine. Even after an understanding of the Real Presence was common, many Church Fathers recognized a spiritual interpretation of the Words of Institution.
No - because YOU think that "children" refers ONLY to the older ones.Because you think children are only newborn babies, not willing offspring.
And that's why discussions with YOU are so comical . . .Circumcision is now of the heart.
Repentance is the operating table per this divine surgery.
Babies are not qualified for this surgery.
Only repentant sinners are.
Much rituals have made thee mad.
As I told you in my last post - try being honest - for a change.I read all your posts, irregardless of their personal insults, till the first lie appears, then i respond to only that one, as in that way, im responding to what follows next in your post, all the way to the end of them all.
Now, breadoflife,....Let me give you something to think about.
= The JW's and you, and your church and your denomination believe that without H20 (water) there is no Salvation.
AS all water cults teach that the Spirit of God comes, once the water is involved.
So, that is water cult theology.
"God can't do anything without the water".
And all the water cults teach that the Flood of Destruction that God sent in GENESIS 6.. is the LITERAL savior of Noah and family and barn yard.
Now, think........ if water is the savior, the why didnt Noah and his family get in the water?
Why were they kept out of the water, breadoflife?
If water is the baptismal redemption as you rant, , then why did God keep Noah and family OUT OF THE WATER.. for 40 days and nights at least, while God killed everything with water.?
Did you notice that Noah was not allowed to get into what you and all water cults claim is " water regeneration"?
Yet, Noah and family were kept OUT of the Water, by God.
No immersion.
No sprinking.
No "baptismal regeneration"
God kept them OUT of what you say God must use to save YOU.....= water.
Think on that.
If this is referring to the Eucharist, it would mean that if anyone takes it, they are eternally saved.
That's a mass?
It just looked like a supper.
I've already taken communion many times. It's not about salvation. And no verse claims that it is.Dear Renniks,
Those who partake worthily, and by God's Grace, endure in faith, hope and charity to the end of their course are indeed 'eternally saved'.
Hence our referring to the Eucharist as the Bread of Life, the Cup of Salvation, the medicine of immortality...
For those who come to the Feast unworthily, Jesus gives this warning:
He said to him, 'My friend, how is it that you came in here without a wedding garment?' But he was reduced to silence.
Then the king said to his attendants, 'Bind his hands and feet, and cast him into the darkness outside, where there will be wailing and grinding of teeth.'
You too! Are welcome to come to the wedding feast if the Lamb of God!
Peace be with you!
Exactly. It's spiritual, not physical. It's not physical blood and meat. They just wanted actual free food.He is telling them that the REASON some of them aren’t accepting what He is telling them is because they DON’T think on a spiritual level – nut only human level. This is why He says in the next verse:
I've already taken communion many times. It's not about salvation. And no verse claims that it is.
WHAT are you talking about?Exactly. It's spiritual, not physical. It's not physical blood and meat. They just wanted actual free food.
Per repentance and faith, he does discriminate.No - because YOU think that "children" refers ONLY to the older ones.
God doesn't discriminate by age . . .