Genesis 1:26 Revisited, the Ordinal “FIRST”

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so we can take this as your ignorance proceed before you....... meaning we can take this as you have no knowledge of what we asked?. Oh well.
You did not answer who the "US" and "OUR" are in Genesis 1:26? Ball is still in your court, in never came out.
Why did Moses confuse everyone and use "Elohim" (Gods) in Genesis 1:1. Since the Word (Jesus) was WITH God in the beginning per John 1:1, we see why Moses used "Elohim" (Gods) instead of "Eloh", just 1 God. See there were 2. I would suggest there was more than 2, but that is another day.
I did answer the "WHO" is the "US" and the OUR", see post # Genesis 1:26 Revisited, the Ordinal “FIRST”
let us be clear, the US and the OUR is God himself to come in human flesh, the ordinal last, the Lord........ :p I don't want any doubts, the LORD, at Genesis 1:26, the Ordinal First is alone and by himself. now this same LORD, is the Lord, the diversity of his own-self at John 1:1, IN FLESH, that was to come, per Roman 5:14b..... see how easy to answer a question. now your next question,
Why did Moses confuse everyone and use "Elohim" (Gods) in Genesis 1:1. Since the Word (Jesus) was WITH God in the beginning per John 1:1, we see why Moses used "Elohim" (Gods) instead of "Eloh", just 1 God. See there were 2. I would suggest there was more than 2, but that is another day.
good, lets stick with today, which produced Another ERROR on your Part. an the another day as you say, will procude another ERROR on that day too. now, Moses confused no one, it's your pre-taught false conception that has confused you. the problem is YOU. "Elohim" (Gods) in Genesis 1:1 is correct, because as the Ordinal First the ordinal Last is to come. so no confusion on Moses Part. Ordinal First, and Ordinal Last is just what G243 allos describe, a "numerical difference" of the SAME SORT. boy oh boy, this like taking candy from a baby, it's too easy.
to show you your ignorance, you said, "the Word (Jesus) was WITH God in the beginning per John 1:1". well the same verse reveals the answer, John 1:1C "and the Word was God." .... hello, hello, the Word is the SAME one PERSON at Genesis 1:1 now shared or diversified in flesh. Oh my God how easy can this be. if one JUST READ WITH THE HOLY GHOST.... when will they ever learn.

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Your misinterpretations of our Christian Bible are irrelevant to me. You can't even quote the Scriptures. You can't even confess that Jesus is the Son of God and "God the Father".

1 John 4:15 (NKJV)
15 Whoever confesses that Jesus is the Son of God, God abides in him, and he in God.

I don't think you can confess that Jesus is the Son of God, because your god is not God of the Bible.
a BROKEN RECORD is of no use to any man, but a new RECORD, is a Joy... that's not a proverb, just only 101G....... :D

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a BROKEN RECORD is of no use to any man, but a new RECORD, is a Joy... that's not a proverb, just only 101G....... :D

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Translation: 101G rejects Jesus the Son of God, and God the Father.
 

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@kcnalp, @Gregory, listen, God the "Elohim" is a plurality in TIME, PLACE, ORDER, and RANK. do you understand this?
knowing this, God is a "Elohim" in "TIME" the BEGINNING, Genesis 1:1 the "ORDER", the Ordinal FIRST, "RANK", the LORD, "PLACE", Alone, and by himself, Father, CREATOR, and MAKER".... and this same "Elohim" in "TIME" the BEGINNING, at John 1:1, the "ORDER", the Ordinal Last, "RANK", the Lord, "PLACE", diversified, the ANOTHER, Son, REEDEMER, and SAVIOUR.
this is the basic understanding.

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@kcnalp, @Gregory, listen, God the "Elohim" is a plurality in TIME, PLACE, ORDER, and RANK. do you understand this?
knowing this, God is a "Elohim" in "TIME" the BEGINNING, Genesis 1:1 the "ORDER", the Ordinal FIRST, "RANK", the LORD, "PLACE", Alone, and by himself, Father, CREATOR, and MAKER".... and this same "Elohim" in "TIME" the BEGINNING, at John 1:1, the "ORDER", the Ordinal Last, "RANK", the Lord, "PLACE", diversified, the ANOTHER, Son, REEDEMER, and SAVIOUR.
this is the basic understanding.

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Another smokescreen to hide from the Biblical FACT that Jesus is the Son of God. You have rejected Jesus of the Bible!
 

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Another smokescreen to hide from the Biblical FACT that Jesus is the Son of God. You have rejected Jesus of the Bible!
so your Ignorance = smokescreen now, is this the new normal?....... :eek: YIKES!.

do you even know who the ordinal First and the Ordinal Last is? do you?

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so your Ignorance = smokescreen now, is this the new normal?....... :eek: YIKES!.

do you even know who the ordinal First and the Ordinal Last is? do you?

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I know that Jesus is God the Creator, but He is NOT the Father nor the Holy Spirit as the Scriptures clearly prove.
 

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well post the scriptures?

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I will indeed and I know you will ignore them again.

Luke 23:34 (NKJV)
34 Then Jesus said, "Father, forgive them, for they do not know what they do."

Who was Jesus talking to, Himself?

And as was mentioned before and you ignored, "God said let US make man in OUR image according to OUR likeness. Father, Son and Holy Spirit.

1 John 2:22-23 (NKJV)
22 He is antichrist who denies the Father and the Son.

Wow, that sounds exactly like what you do.
 
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Luke 23:34 (NKJV)
34 Then Jesus said, "Father, forgive them, for they do not know what they do."
AS the G243 ALLOS, or the ANOTHERR, or the Offspring of his OWN-SELF, as the equal SHARE of his OWN-SELF in Flesh, he is speaking to his Spirit, and from Heaven, the Spirit is speaking to his BODY, the ONLY Church on Earth.... :D, that's if you're in him. I have answered this before, and here again over and over. Just read John 3:13 he's the same one person in Heaven as well as on Earth at the same time only in a shared stated of "diversity".... :D YIKES!. now cipy yhis post and put it aside, for future reference.

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so we can take this as your ignorance proceed before you....... meaning we can take this as you have no knowledge of what we asked?. Oh well.

I did answer the "WHO" is the "US" and the OUR", see post # Genesis 1:26 Revisited, the Ordinal “FIRST”
let us be clear, the US and the OUR is God himself to come in human flesh, the ordinal last, the Lord........ :p I don't want any doubts, the LORD, at Genesis 1:26, the Ordinal First is alone and by himself. now this same LORD, is the Lord, the diversity of his own-self at John 1:1, IN FLESH, that was to come, per Roman 5:14b..... see how easy to answer a question. now your next question,

good, lets stick with today, which produced Another ERROR on your Part. an the another day as you say, will procude another ERROR on that day too. now, Moses confused no one, it's your pre-taught false conception that has confused you. the problem is YOU. "Elohim" (Gods) in Genesis 1:1 is correct, because as the Ordinal First the ordinal Last is to come. so no confusion on Moses Part. Ordinal First, and Ordinal Last is just what G243 allos describe, a "numerical difference" of the SAME SORT. boy oh boy, this like taking candy from a baby, it's too easy.
to show you your ignorance, you said, "the Word (Jesus) was WITH God in the beginning per John 1:1". well the same verse reveals the answer, John 1:1C "and the Word was God." .... hello, hello, the Word is the SAME one PERSON at Genesis 1:1 now shared or diversified in flesh. Oh my God how easy can this be. if one JUST READ WITH THE HOLY GHOST.... when will they ever learn.

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So you say Gods is correct in Genesis 1:1 because the ordinal first is there and the ordinal last that was to come is there too? Am I correct?
That makes sense, because John 1:1 says that the Word (which is the ordinal last) was WITH God in the beginning. Good 2 persons, 1 the Ordinal first, and 2 the ordinal last that was to come were with each other in the beginning. There you have it.
 

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So you say Gods is correct in Genesis 1:1 because the ordinal first is there and the ordinal last that was to come is there too? Am I correct?
Gods, are you kidding me?, no, LISTEN again, the LORD Jesus was at Genesis 1:1, but the Lord Jesus to Come was in him at Genesis1:1. Just as Eve was in Adam on day three... :p and as she was brought forth .... "Later"/Last, likewise, the Lord Jesus was sent forth "Last"/later.... my, my, my, how true is Roman 1:20 is. I'll say it again, Jesus the Son who is GOD himself, "THE ORDINAL LAST", was not at Genesis 1:1 or 1:26, BUT JESUS WAS.... the Ordinal First... Got it?
that's why God is an H430 אֱלֹהִים 'elohiym (el-o-heem'), that is to COME, meaning "WHICH is, WHICH was, and WHICH is to com" and that happen at John 1:1, and Revelation 1:1 is WHICH is to come. this is why God said, "Let US". and why Jesus the Son in Matthew 19:4b said, HE, at Genesis 1:26, listen, "Have ye not read, that he which made them at the beginning made them male and female,". see it now? God is a "HE" the H433 אֱלוֹהַּ 'elowahh (el-o'-ah) from Genesis 1:1 thru Malachi 4:6, prophesying of his coming in Flesh and blood, to a. redeem and save man. this why he is always saying "I", or "ME" in the OT concering himself. and when he is speaking of himself to come, he is using "US, or "OUR". this is why we see such verses as Psalms 110:1 "A Psalm of David. The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou at my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool."
the Lord did not sit until after he came to finish the work in order to sit. and that coming in flesh is the Ordinal Last, John 1:1 the equal Share, or the Diversity of himself in flesh as , as, as, a man, per as the prophecy of Zechariah 13:7 "Awake, O sword, against my shepherd, and against the man that is my fellow, saith the LORD of hosts: smite the shepherd, and the sheep shall be scattered: and I will turn mine hand upon the little ones." or the prophecy of Zechariah 12:10 "And I will pour upon the house of David, and upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the spirit of grace and of supplications: and they shall look upon me whom they have pierced, and they shall mourn for him, as one mourneth for his only son, and shall be in bitterness for him, as one that is in bitterness for his firstborn." as all through out the OT. or one more, Genesis 11:7 "Go to, let us go down, and there confound their language, that they may not understand one another's speech.", where he confounded, he founded and establish the same one language, just read Acts 2:7 "And they were all amazed and marvelled, saying one to another, Behold, are not all these which speak Galilaeans?"
Acts 2:8 "And how hear we every man in our own tongue, wherein we were born?"

G Money, this is basic bible study.

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AS the G243 ALLOS, or the ANOTHERR, or the Offspring of his OWN-SELF, as the equal SHARE of his OWN-SELF in Flesh, he is speaking to his Spirit, and from Heaven, the Spirit is speaking to his BODY, the ONLY Church on Earth.... :D, that's if you're in him. I have answered this before, and here again over and over. Just read John 3:13 he's the same one person in Heaven as well as on Earth at the same time only in a shared stated of "diversity".... :D YIKES!. now cipy yhis post and put it aside, for future reference.

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So Jesus was praying to Himself for help?

1 John 2:22-23 (NKJV)
22 He is antichrist who denies the Father and the Son.


Sounds just like what you preach!
 

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I have many times. That's why I reject your heresies.
but did you understand what you read? necause that's two different animals.

read post #612 above.
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Gods, are you kidding me?, no, LISTEN again, the LORD Jesus was at Genesis 1:1, but the Lord Jesus to Come was in him at Genesis1:1. Just as Eve was in Adam on day three... :p and as she was brought forth .... "Later"/Last, likewise, the Lord Jesus was sent forth "Last"/later.... my, my, my, how true is Roman 1:20 is. I'll say it again, Jesus the Son who is GOD himself, "THE ORDINAL LAST", was not at Genesis 1:1 or 1:26, BUT JESUS WAS.... the Ordinal First... Got it?
that's why God is an H430 אֱלֹהִים 'elohiym (el-o-heem'), that is to COME, meaning "WHICH is, WHICH was, and WHICH is to com" and that happen at John 1:1, and Revelation 1:1 is WHICH is to come. this is why God said, "Let US". and why Jesus the Son in Matthew 19:4b said, HE, at Genesis 1:26, listen, "Have ye not read, that he which made them at the beginning made them male and female,". see it now? God is a "HE" the H433 אֱלוֹהַּ 'elowahh (el-o'-ah) from Genesis 1:1 thru Malachi 4:6, prophesying of his coming in Flesh and blood, to a. redeem and save man. this why he is always saying "I", or "ME" in the OT concering himself. and when he is speaking of himself to come, he is using "US, or "OUR". this is why we see such verses as Psalms 110:1 "A Psalm of David. The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou at my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool."
the Lord did not sit until after he came to finish the work in order to sit. and that coming in flesh is the Ordinal Last, John 1:1 the equal Share, or the Diversity of himself in flesh as , as, as, a man, per as the prophecy of Zechariah 13:7 "Awake, O sword, against my shepherd, and against the man that is my fellow, saith the LORD of hosts: smite the shepherd, and the sheep shall be scattered: and I will turn mine hand upon the little ones." or the prophecy of Zechariah 12:10 "And I will pour upon the house of David, and upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the spirit of grace and of supplications: and they shall look upon me whom they have pierced, and they shall mourn for him, as one mourneth for his only son, and shall be in bitterness for him, as one that is in bitterness for his firstborn." as all through out the OT. or one more, Genesis 11:7 "Go to, let us go down, and there confound their language, that they may not understand one another's speech.", where he confounded, he founded and establish the same one language, just read Acts 2:7 "And they were all amazed and marvelled, saying one to another, Behold, are not all these which speak Galilaeans?"
Acts 2:8 "And how hear we every man in our own tongue, wherein we were born?"

G Money, this is basic bible study.

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There are persons present at these scriptures:
Genesis 1:26 Let us
Psalms 110:1 2 Lords.
John 1:1 Word was WITH God

I just believe your reasoning and the scriptures you use do not give the true prospective of who God and Jesus, the Son of God are. Sorry, I just don't. I too have studied it out and the Holy Spirit has told me that I am right. I have to go with that.
 

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There are persons present at these scriptures:
Genesis 1:26 Let us
Psalms 110:1 2 Lords.
John 1:1 Word was WITH God

I just believe your reasoning and the scriptures you use do not give the true prospective of who God and Jesus, the Son of God are. Sorry, I just don't. I too have studied it out and the Holy Spirit has told me that I am right. I have to go with that.
ERROR, only one person was present at Genesi 1:1, and Genesis 1:26 & 27, as I asked, who was any two or three that MADE MAN MALE AND FEMALE, because remember he said let US make, no need to understand how many was present, because the US coveres that, we must deal with who, (how many), was it that made man. I don't care if 10,000 was present, my question, is simple, who was the "US", that made man in "the OUR" image, once we answer that then the many present will be answered. see how simple that question is, not how many was present, but how many was it that made man.

now the Lord Jesus said in Matthews 19:4 the "HE" a single person made man, (as well as Genesis 1:27), so that eliminate anyone, no matter how many was present, that statement in Matthews 19:4 eliminates anyone present at Genesis 1:1 or Genesis 1:26. and it also eliminates anyone going through someone else. and this is backed up in Isaiah 44:24 because there it states, he (of Matthews 19:4) was alone, and by HIMSELF. so any two or three persons are eliminated in these scriptures and many more, so that excuse want fly. just because one say it long enough don't make it TRUTH.

Now your last half of the question. well if YOU believe that, and you say that the Holy Spirit told YOU this, and that you're right, then go back to him and ask him how to explain, the US and the OUR in Genesis 1:26 who man man, the plurality, and in Genesis 1:27, the very next scripture that US and OUR went to a, HIS and a HE a single person. please ask him to explain that to us.... will be looking for that answer. and please use scripture.


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