Christian safe-haven in British Columbia
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Jostler
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Matthew 16:25 NKJV — “For whoever desires to save his life will lose it, but whoever loses his life for My sake will find it.
I'm sorry to have to promise you that the pre-trib rapture theory is false.
Believers will be going through (at least part of) the great tribulation of the antichrist.
IMO, there will be a great falling away of believers ...
when they realize they have been deceived by the pre-trib theory.
Many will lose their faith in their churches ... and in the Lord.
I hope and pray that you are not one of them!
Timtofly
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That would be a giant train wreck, of a de-rail? That is coming from someone used to changing the topic of a thread. Or subconsciously doing so.
Jostler
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Jostler
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we tend to read the good things from scripture as applying to us...and all the negative things as applying to "them"
Jostler
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what if God was warning us to be aware an increase in lawlessness will cause OUR love to grow cold? Many posts here are an icebath....why?
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Thanks for the offer, but I live in the States, and try not to do any business with the Federal Govt., so don't have a passport.
But no worries I'm already prepared IN Christ for the end of times.
God Bless,
Taken
It is easy to explain the why. It is the LITERAL fulfillment of the words of JESUS. He said: Matt.24:v.12
12 - And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold.
Furthermore, the Word of GOD reveals that "the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own
lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables". 2 Ti.4:v.3-4 among others Scriptures
Jostler
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It was a rough day back when the Lord pointed out I was who that was written for. Praise God there's a fix, but repentance requires admitting we were wrong. Til that happens, forgiveness is impossible. We're stuck u.ntil we finally come to realize Word, all of it, was written for ME......ouch
You are right. What matters is Truth, i.e. the true words that will fulfill LITERALLY by complete as you have posted.
Your message sounds exactly like the sound of God's Trumpet.
May our Lord GOD bless us, and give us His protection
The battle against the kingdom of Devil is described in Revelation 16:v.13 to 16. Lest Satan should get an advantage of us: for we are not ignorant of his devices". The "the false pre-trib rapture theory" is one of his devices.
First we must hear the sound of the Trumpet of GOD - the Word is GOD. 1Thes. 4:v.15-16 combined with Daniel 12:v.1-4
Jostler
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Jostler
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If the pre-trib rapture is a deception (I believe it is...), what do resurrection(s) actually look like?
(Revelation 20 is a good place to begin looking...) Psalm 149 will blow our minds too....did mine for sure.
Yes, you brought wonderful references verily . I would add more these Scriptures for meditation of all, as follow:
JESUS said: João 5: v.26 & 28-29
26 For as the Father hath life in Himself; so hath He given to the Son to have life in Himself;
28 Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear His voice,
29 And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation. - the powers of the heavens shall be shaken -
Luke 20:v.35-38
35 But they which shall be accounted worthy to obtain that world- the next world-the Kingdom of GOD-the third heaven- , and the resurrection from the dead, neither marry, nor are given in marriage:
36 Neither can they die any more: for they are equal unto the angels; and are the children of God, being the children of the resurrection.
37 Now that the dead are raised, even Moses shewed at the bush, when he calleth the Lord the God of Abraham, and the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob.
38 For he is not a God of the dead, but of the living: for all live unto him.
João 11:v.22-27
22 But I know, that even now, whatsoever thou wilt ask of God, God will give it thee. - The Word is GOD -
23 Jesus saith unto her, Thy brother shall rise again.
24 Martha saith unto him, I know that he shall rise again in the resurrection at the last day. (that is the seventh and last Day, or seventh and last millennium, the millennium of Christ)
25 Jesus said unto her, I am the resurrection, and the life: he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live:
26 And whosoever liveth and believeth in me shall never die. Believest thou this?
27 She saith unto him, Yea, Lord: I believe that thou art the Christ, the Son of God, which should come into the world.
Isaiah prophesied: Isa. 26:v.19-21
19 Thy dead men shall live, together with my dead body shall they arise. Awake and sing, ye that dwell in dust: for thy dew is as the dew of herbs, and the earth shall cast out the dead.
20 Come, my people, enter thou into thy chambers, and shut thy doors about thee: hide thyself as it were for a little moment, until the indignation be overpast. - Revelation 11: v.15-18
21 For, behold, the Lord cometh out of his place to punish the inhabitants of the earth for their iniquity: the earth also shall disclose her blood, and shall no more cover her slain.
Philippians 3:v. 20-21
20 For our conversation is in heaven (second heaven - Ephesians 1:v.3 among others); from whence also we look for the Saviour, the Lord Jesus Christ:
21 Who shall change our vile body, that it may be fashioned like unto his glorious body, according to the working whereby he is able even to subdue all things unto himself.
In Christ JESUS, KING of kings (kings made by Him) and LORD of lords
Jostler
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It's really funny for me personally, but some of my most treasured experiences with the Holy Spirit came right around this topic of the rapture. Personal encounters. It took Him three years to systematically, verse by verse, destroy my pretty pre-trib "proof" sermon it was a good sermon too! Lots of people said it was! Lol
it was a good sermon too! Lots of people said it was! Lol
Jostler
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Jostler
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That is what some say. Many others including myself believe that it is not a theory but a Bible doctrine. The reason being that God has not appointed believers to wrath, but to obtain salvation through our Lord Jesus Christ.
