Who is Jesus Christ?

[ByGraceThroughFaith]

God is not a who...it's a what....
God is what He is....who is He?

1. El Shaddai el shad-di' Lord God Almighty
2. El Elyon el el-yone' The Most High God
3. Adonai ad-o-noy' Lord, Master
4. Yahweh yah-weh Lord, Jehovah
5. Jehovah Nissi yeh-ho-vaw' nis-see' The Lord My Banner
6. Jehovah-Raah yeh-ho-vaw' raw-aw' The Lord My Shepherd
7. Jehovah Rapha yeh-ho-vaw' raw-faw' The Lord That Heals
8. Jehovah Shammah yeh-ho-vaw' shawm'-maw The Lord Is There
9. Jehovah Tsidkenu yeh-ho-vaw' tsid-kay'-noo The Lord Our Righteousness
10. Jehovah Mekoddishkem yeh-ho-vaw' M-qadash The Lord Who Sanctifies You
11. El Olam el o-lawm' The Everlasting God
12. Elohim el-o-heem' God
13. Qanna kan-naw' Jealous
14. Jehovah Jireh yeh-ho-vaw' yir-eh' The Lord Will Provide
15. Jehovah Shalom yeh-ho-vaw' shaw-lome' The Lord Is Peace
16. Jehovah Sabaoth yeh-ho-vaw' se ba'ôt The Lord of Host.

Who is Jesus?
All the Names of Jesus - Bible Resources
Very extensive list of names and titles

So is the Father and Holy Spirit!

 

[ByGraceThroughFaith]

No. I believe God is one (unitarian). And the Bible is right and trinitarians are wrong.

In John 10.30 Jesus says literally, "I and the Father we are one" "We are" in the Greek is the masculine gender and plural in number. Which cannot refer to one Person. Jesus the Speaker is one Person and the Father He is speaking about is another Person.

 

[Pearl]

No. I believe God is one (unitarian). And the Bible is right and trinitarians are wrong.

Yes - one person made up of three separate parts, body, soul and spirit - just as we are who are made in his image.

 

[ByGraceThroughFaith]

Yes - one person made up of three separate parts, body, soul and spirit - just as we are who are made in his image.

No, the Trinity is not one Person but Three who are one essential nature. You are walking into Unitarianism

 

[Pearl]

No, the Trinity is not one Person but Three who are one essential nature. You are walking into Unitarianism

I am one person with three separate parts as are you. Just as God is one being with three searate parts - Father, Son and Spirit. The three in one Godhead.

 

[ByGraceThroughFaith]

I am one person with three separate parts as are you. Just as God is one being with three searate parts - Father, Son and Spirit. The three in one Godhead.

Not 3 "parts" but 3 distinct Persons, as is very clear in Matthew 28.19 for example. Neither are the Three Persons "separate" as their nature is united in one Godhead

 

[ByGraceThroughFaith]

I am one person with three separate parts as are you. Just as God is one being with three searate parts - Father, Son and Spirit. The three in one Godhead.

See The Distinction of Persons in The Holy Trinity

 

[Pearl]

See The Distinction of Persons in The Holy Trinity

I'm not arguing with you. I agree three distinct persons - God the Father, God the Son and God the Holy Spirit. But one God. Jesus isn't the Father although he is God. The Holy Spirit is not Jesus although he is God. The Father is not Jesus etc.

 

[ByGraceThroughFaith]

I'm not arguing with you. I agree three distinct persons - God the Father, God the Son and God the Holy Spirit. But one God. Jesus isn't the Father although he is God. The Holy Spirit is not Jesus although he is God. The Father is not Jesus etc.

Sure, it's just that you said that God is one Person but Three parts. Now you are clearer in what you mean, and right

 

[Heart2Soul]

So is the Father and Holy Spirit!

And so would we be if He had not driven Adam and Eve from the garden. ..
“Then the Lord God said, "Behold, the man has become like one of Us, to know good and evil. And now, lest he put out his hand and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live forever"-–”
— Gen 3:22 (NKJV)

Become like "one of us" implies there is more than one.

 

[Wrangler]

No, the Trinity is not one Person but Three who are one essential nature. You are walking into Unitarianism

Trinitarianism parsed synonyms persons and beings. No scriptural support for this

 

[Wrangler]

So when Jesus speaks to His Father, He is actually speaking to Himself?

It’s amazing how totally opposite the truth is. What you asked is what trinitarian suppose.

The Father. The Son. Two different beings. Two different persons.

 

[Robert Gwin]

That would be "God the Father".
Galatians 1:3 (NKJV)
3 Grace to you and peace from God the Father and our Lord Jesus Christ,

Yes sir, that is correct. Jehovah is his God and Father

 

[ByGraceThroughFaith]

Yes sir, that is correct. Jehovah is his God and Father

That is wrong. Jesus is YHWH so cannot have any God!

 

[Robert Gwin]

Obviously you do not want the truth, therefore I will leave you to your delusions.

That is why I said to research it, it was deliberately altered and rather easy to find if you want to. Really makes a difference in knowing who God and Jesus are, it can lead to eternal life Enoch Jn 17:3

Did you know that when Jesus returns he is going to destroy those who do not know God? 2 Thes 1:8,9

 

[Brakelite]

Hi Robert,

I noticed you didn't quote the passages, only referenced them. So I'll include them for you so we can look at them together.

Mark 10:39-40 KJV
39) And they said unto him, We can. And Jesus said unto them, Ye shall indeed drink of the cup that I drink of; and with the baptism that I am baptized withal shall ye be baptized:
40) But to sit on my right hand and on my left hand is not mine to give; but it shall be given to them for whom it is prepared.

Mark 13:30-32 KJV
30) Verily I say unto you, that this generation shall not pass, till all these things be done.
31) Heaven and earth shall pass away: but my words shall not pass away.
32) But of that day and that hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels which are in heaven, neither the Son, but the Father.

I'm not seeing in these passages any statement one way or the other, Jesus is God, Jesus is not God, These don't tell us this.

I'm guessing you are referring to that Jesus was not determining the who sits where, and that He didn't know the time of His return?

Is this correct?

Philippians 2:4-11 KJV
4) Look not every man on his own things, but every man also on the things of others.
5) Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus:
6) Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:
7) But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men:
8) And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross.
9) Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name:
10) That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth;
11) And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.

Philippians 2:7 LITV
7) but emptied Himself, taking the form of a slave, having become in the likeness of men

To me, lacking a specific statement otherwise, these questions are answered here in Philippians, that the Son of God emptied Himself, and took upon Himself the humble form of a servant, so that He said,

I only do what the Father does, I only say what the Father says.

"Made himself", "took upon Himself", these are transitional words which speak of a pre-existant being who 'became' in the form of a servant, of a man.

Who was that?

Much love!

Exactly. Well said. The pre-existent Son of God laid aside all His Divine attributes and became as one of His own creations. He took upon Himself the seed of Abraham. With all the limitations and weaknesses of human flesh. He did not live according to His pre-existent knowledge. He did not bring with Him memories of the former world. He learned who He was through scripture. And he lived by faith. We also must learn who we are through the scriptures, and we are to live by faith. God is Father to both Christ and His brethren... Us.

 

[Robert Gwin]

Hi Robert,

I noticed you didn't quote the passages, only referenced them. So I'll include them for you so we can look at them together.

Mark 10:39-40 KJV
39) And they said unto him, We can. And Jesus said unto them, Ye shall indeed drink of the cup that I drink of; and with the baptism that I am baptized withal shall ye be baptized:
40) But to sit on my right hand and on my left hand is not mine to give; but it shall be given to them for whom it is prepared.

Mark 13:30-32 KJV
30) Verily I say unto you, that this generation shall not pass, till all these things be done.
31) Heaven and earth shall pass away: but my words shall not pass away.
32) But of that day and that hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels which are in heaven, neither the Son, but the Father.

I'm not seeing in these passages any statement one way or the other, Jesus is God, Jesus is not God, These don't tell us this.

I'm guessing you are referring to that Jesus was not determining the who sits where, and that He didn't know the time of His return?

Is this correct?

Philippians 2:4-11 KJV
4) Look not every man on his own things, but every man also on the things of others.
5) Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus:
6) Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:
7) But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men:
8) And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross.
9) Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name:
10) That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth;
11) And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.

Philippians 2:7 LITV
7) but emptied Himself, taking the form of a slave, having become in the likeness of men

To me, lacking a specific statement otherwise, these questions are answered here in Philippians, that the Son of God emptied Himself, and took upon Himself the humble form of a servant, so that He said,

I only do what the Father does, I only say what the Father says.

"Made himself", "took upon Himself", these are transitional words which speak of a pre-existant being who 'became' in the form of a servant, of a man.

Who was that?

Much love!

Hi Marks, yes sir that is my point, if he was actually God, then it was his choice to choose who would be his right hand man, in fact the Bible points out that position actually would go to him, he was exalted to the right hand of Jehovah, as well as given the privilege of being the next King to sit on Jehovah's throne.

The verse you used to show equality was badly translated sir, it makes it appear that he is equal to Jehovah, but that is not the case, as mentioned sitting at Jehovah's right hand is not literally a sitting place, but refers to position. 1 Cor 11:3 written after his return to heaven clearly showed that Jehovah is the head of Jesus, as he is the head of man, who is the head of woman.

Likely you are familiar that Jesus said that Jehovah was greater than him, but that was while he was a human, but there is no doubt about the account mentioned in 1 Cor.

 

[Robert Gwin]

Joseph:

"Thou shalt be over my house, and according unto thy word shall all my people be ruled: only in the throne will I be greater than thou." Gen 41:40

Jesus:

"Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come again unto you. If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I go unto the Father: for my Father is greater than I." John 14:28

You and me:

"Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is." I John 3:2

How like Him is Jesus and how like Him are we to be?

"That they all may be one; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me.
And the glory which thou gavest me I have given them; that they may be one, even as we are one:
I in them, and thou in me, that they may be made perfect in one; and that the world may know that thou hast sent me, and hast loved them, as thou hast loved me." John 17:21-23

Jesus, as well as all perfect individuals (all spirit beings as of now) perfectly reflect Jehovah in His qualities. What you observed Jesus doing is exactly the way Jehovah would have Jn 5:19, and serves as an example for us to follow. 1 Pet 2:21

 

[Robert Gwin]

Jesus Christ IS Almighty God the Great YHWH. And has no God.

Yes sir, from the days of Constantine that has been a common understanding, and if it were true of course he would have no God. Jehovah Himself said that with the first of the 10 commandments, that He would have no gods before His face. So the best was to find out is find out what does the Bible teach? Notice Jesus' own words: (John 20:17) . . .Jesus said to her: “Stop clinging to me, for I have not yet ascended to the Father. But go to my brothers and say to them, ‘I am ascending to my Father and your Father and to my God and your God.’”

Yes the Bible shows quite clearly from Jesus' own mouth he has a God, and while praying to Him, stated very clearly that he made God's name known, which in the English language is Jehovah. When satan tried to get Jesus to worship him, Jesus told him that it is Jehovah your God you must worship, and to Him alone render sacred service, as found at Mat 4:10

I hope that helps sir

 

[Robert Gwin]

Oh dear, have I upset you? Sorry if I have. I thought you were being facetious. Nobody in the UK would call anybody maam apart from the three exceptions I pointed out. To us it isn't a term of respect that is used to ordinary women. But the US must be different.

Oh no you haven't upset me, and I am sorry, I do realize English is definitely somewhat different there. What respectful way may I refer to you? My neighbor comes from Germany, and her doctor called her maam the other day and he got mad, said the doctor was basically calling her the Madam of a prostitution ring. I kinda giggled and explained it to him. Is that what it means to you?