Repentance necessary for salvation.

[BloodBought 1953]

Consider the Following......


Repentance and Conversion

by George Whitefield

"Repent ye therefore, and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out, when the times of refreshing shall come from the presence of the Lord" (Acts 3:19, KJV).

It is a pity that modern preachers do not pay more attention to the method that the apostles followed in preaching Jesus Christ! The success and divine authority of their discourses should impress ministers of the gospel more than all modern schemes. If this were the case, ministers would first learn to sow and then to reap. They would endeavor to plow up the fallow ground and to prepare people for God's blessings to rain down upon them.

This is the way Peter preached when under divine influence at Pentecost. Despite the fact that many of his listeners were educated, prominent people, he boldly charged them with murdering the Son of God. His piercing accusation entered deep into their conscience and was used by the Holy Spirit to give them a proper sense of themselves.

The apostle then let them know that, although their sin was great, it was not unpardonable. They had been part of the horrid crime of murdering the Lord of life, and had thereby incurred the penalty of eternal death. Yet there was mercy for them in the way prescribed: "Repent ye therefore, and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out" (Acts 3:19).

But must we preach conversion to a professing people? Some of you, perhaps, are ready to say, "Go among the savages and preach repentance and conversion there, or preach conversion to the drunkards." Possibly others will say, "Who are you to preach repentance and conversion to us?" However, if God's Spirit finds you out and reveals your heart, you will have a different opinion of yourselves and will not be angry with a minister of Jesus Christ for preaching conversion to your souls.

Conversion is not changing from one set of principles to another. You who have been raised with Christianity are in the greatest danger of being zealous for orthodox principles without being transformed by them into the image of God. Others think that they are converted because they have reformed their lifestyle. However, reformation is not renovation. The outside of the platter may be washed while the inside remains filthy. A person may turn from profaneness to morality and therefore believe that he is converted, yet his heart is still unrenewed.

You have not heard me, I hope, speak a word against reformation. You have not heard me speak a word against being good. No, both are right in their place. However, you may have this kind of conversion and yet never be truly converted at all.

What is conversion then? In order to be truly converted, a man must become a new creature and be converted from his own righteousness to the righteousness of the Lord Jesus Christ. Conviction will always precede spiritual conversion. You may be convicted without being converted, but you cannot be converted without being convicted.

True conversion means turning not only from sin but also from depending on self-made righteousness. Those who trust in their own righteousness for conversion hide behind their own good works. This is the reason that self-righteous people are so angry with gospel preachers, because the gospel does not spare those who will not submit to the righteousness of Jesus Christ!

I could almost say this is the last stroke the Lord Jesus gave Paul to turn him to real Christianity. After describing him as a persecutor, Christ brought him out of himself by revealing His person and office as a Savior: "I am Jesus" (Acts 9:5). As a result, Paul would later say, "I count all things but loss . . . that I may win Christ, and be found in him, not having my own righteousness, which is of the law, but that which is through the faith of Christ, the righteousness which is of God by faith" (Phil. 3:8-9).

We talk in vain about being converted until we see ourselves as lost sinners and come to the Lord Jesus Christ to be washed in His blood and to be clothed in His imputed righteousness. The consequence of this application of Christ's righteousness to the soul will be a conversion from sin to holiness.

The Bible says, "If any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new" (2 Cor. 5:17). As a newborn child has all the parts of an adult, so when a person is converted to God, there are all the features of the new creature and growth until God translates him to glory. Anything short of this is but the shadow instead of the substance.

The author of conversion is the Holy Ghost. It is not based on free will or moral persuasion. Nothing short of the influence of the Spirit of the living God can effect this change in a person's heart. Therefore, we are said to be "born again" and "born of the Spirit" not only with water but with the Holy Ghost (John 3:3, 6).

Although there continues to be a contest between these two opposites, flesh and spirit, yet if we are truly converted, the spirit will gain the ascendancy. Nature and grace may struggle in the womb of a converted soul for a while like Jacob and Esau did in the womb, yet the elder shall serve the younger (Gen. 25:22-23).

Jacob shall supplant and turn out Esau, or at least keep him under. This is the way a person proves that he is converted.

How do you account for such a change within the heart? Is it not Godlike? Is it not divine? Have you felt it? Have you experienced it? I could spend a whole sermon in speaking of conversion, but I am afraid those who sit under the gospel have more need of heat than light. However, if you are not yet converted, upon what other grounds do you hope for conversion? You ought to repent and be converted, for until you do, you can never find true rest for your soul.

If it is asked why a person should repent and be converted, I answer, "Because without conversion, there is no way to be happy after you die." You must be converted or be damned. That is plain English, but not plainer than my Master used. I did not speak the word as strongly as He did when He said, "He that believeth not shall be damned" (Mark 16:16). That is the language of our Lord.

Some have said that hell is only a temporary punishment. Who told them so? God grant you may never know the meaning of Jesus' words "I never knew you" (Matt. 7:23) by awful experience! Conversion makes you happy in eternity, and without it, you are damned forever.

But you say, "All in good time. I do not choose to be converted yet." Why? What age are you now? Suppose you are fourteen. Do you not think it time to be converted? There was a young man buried last night who was seventeen. Are you forty or fifty? Is that not the time? There was a poor woman who died suddenly two or three days ago. God grant that may not be the case with any of you. The only way to prevent that is to be enabled to think that "now is the accepted time; behold, now is the day of salvation" (2 Cor. 6:2).

It is a mercy that each of us has not been in hell a thousand times by now. How many are in hell that used to say, "Lord, convert me--but not now"? The road to hell is paved with good intentions. Now can you blame me for calling after you? Men, brethren, and fathers, hearken! God help you! Save yourselves from a wicked generation!

If you are damned for lack of conversion, remember that you are not damned for lack of warning. Thousands have not had the gospel preached to them, but you have heard. If there is a deeper place in hell, God will order a gospel-despising church member to be put there. You will have dreadful torments. Of him to whom so much is given, much will be required. How dreadful to have minister after minister say, "Lord God, I preached, but they would not hear." Think of this, professors, and God make you possessors!

You young people, I charge you to consider. God help you to repent and be converted. He woos and invites you. You middle-aged people, O that you would repent and be converted. You old, grey-headed people, the Lord make you repent and be converted. O I could preach until I preached myself dead. I would be glad to preach myself dead if God would convert you! May God bless His work on you that you may blossom and bring forth fruits unto God. Amen.

Lol.....and to think that I was hesitant in calling you a “ TARE”...... you are lower than a TARE.....someday the Angels Of God will yank you from the True Believers....

 

[friend of]

which is what he is.....somebody convince me that I am wrong

What exactly is your disagreement with JBF?

 

[BloodBought 1953]

What exactly is your disagreement with JBF?

Have you read his “ insights” into Romans 10:13? Where he claims the verse is Invalid? A direct quote from Jesus, who used Paul as His spokesman....such a Vital Biblical Truth That it is included in Both Testaments? “ Anybody that asks to be Saved WILL BE Saved”......A direct Promise from God that Proves the Amazing Grace Of God.... .and JBF says it is a Lie......a False Doctrine....It didn’t stick out like a sore thumb to you?

 

[Curtis]

(cont'd)...

Now we receive the Holy Spirit through faith in Jesus Christ (Galatians 3:14) and if we have been given the Holy Spirit, we obey Him (Acts of the Apostles 5:32).

There is more to that passage.

Rom 8:9, But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.
Rom 8:10, And if Christ be in you, the body is dead because of sin; but the Spirit is life because of righteousness.
Rom 8:11, But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you.
Rom 8:12, Therefore, brethren, we are debtors, not to the flesh, to live after the flesh.
Rom 8:13, For if ye live after the flesh, ye shall die: but if ye through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall live.
Rom 8:14, For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.

In v. 12, it should be clear that if you have the Holy Spirit, you are not obligated to walk after the flesh and it may even be that you owe it to God to walk according to the Spirit.

Here is another passage that is of relevance.

Gal 5:16, This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh.
Gal 5:17, For the flesh lusteth against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh: and these are contrary the one to the other: so that ye cannot do the things that ye would.
Gal 5:18, But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law.
Gal 5:19, Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness,
Gal 5:20, Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies,
Gal 5:21, Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.
Gal 5:22, But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith,
Gal 5:23, Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law.

This passage tells us what it means to walk not after the flesh but after the Spirit; and it is a companion passage to Romans 8:1-14; which we have shared above.

Repentance is absolutely required.

Jesus said, He came to call sinners unto repentance, and said UNLESS ye repent ye shall perish.

Acts 3:19 states we must repent to have our sins forgiven.

Paul taught this, as well, that faith and repentance are needed:

Act 20:21 Testifying both to the Jews, and also to the Greeks, repentance toward God, AND faith toward our Lord Jesus Christ.

The word AND means plus, or in addition to...

 

[kcnalp]

OSASers are some of the most judgmental people on Earth!

 

[Tong2020]

Those who teach that we must turn from sin or else we are not saved are teaching according to the Bible.

Is that true with the already saved (true Christians)? Yes or No and explain why.

Is that true with the Jews? Yes or No and explain why.

Is that true with the Gentiles? Yes or No and explain why.

Is that true with the pagans? Yes or No and explain why.

Is that true with the atheists? Yes or No and explain why.

Tong
R2732

 

[Tong2020]

Repentance is absolutely required.

Jesus said, He came to call sinners unto repentance, and said UNLESS ye repent ye shall perish.

Acts 3:19 states we must repent to have our sins forgiven.

Paul taught this, as well, that faith and repentance are needed:

Act 20:21 Testifying both to the Jews, and also to the Greeks, repentance toward God, AND faith toward our Lord Jesus Christ.

The word AND means plus, or in addition to...

What repentance is asked of the Christians is from sin. This repentance is not for the unsaved but for the saved. Obviously this is not a requirement for their salvation in as much as they are already saved.

What repentance is asked of the rest of the world is from unbelief in the one true God, the God of Abraham, of Isaac, of Jacob, of Moses, and unbelief in whom the Father have sent, His only begotten Son, Jesus Christ. This repentance is for the yet unsaved and lost.

Tong
R2733

 

[Curtis]

Nice job of cutting off the scripture that showed Paul preaching repentance AND faith are needed for salvation, not to mention that Acts 3:19 clearly says repent AND BE CONVERTED so our sins will be forgiven.

Being converted is the transformation into a new creation, and being born again.

And Paul wouldn’t be preaching to the choir that they need faith toward God..

Act 20:21 Testifying both to the Jews, and also to the Greeks, repentance toward God, AND faith toward our Lord Jesus Christ.

 

[Tong2020]

Nice job of cutting off the scripture that showed Paul preaching repentance AND faith are needed for salvation, not to mention that Acts 3:19 clearly says repent AND BE CONVERTED so our sins will be forgiven.

Being converted is the transformation into a new creation, and being born again.

And Paul wouldn’t be preaching to the choir that they need faith toward God..

Act 20:21 Testifying both to the Jews, and also to the Greeks, repentance toward God, AND faith toward our Lord Jesus Christ.

Woowh, easy on the tongue there. Am Not cutting scriptures in any way.

Repentance with regards to Christians (believers) is from sin. If you object to that, by all means refute.

Repentance with regards to the yet unsaved and lost, is from unbelief in God and Him whom he sent, Jesus Christ. If you object to that, by all means refute.

Strictly speaking, salvation requires nothing of man, for there is nothing in man that he could possibly do to save himself. If any man be saved, it is because of God’s grace and working. For fallen man, according to God Himself, is this: every intents of the thoughts of his heart is only evil continually even from his youth. That’s the state of fallen mankind.

Considering the Jews, they have been chosen by God even from ancient times, from among the peoples of the world and manifested Himself to them and even made a covenant with them. The point is, they already have a reconciled relationship with God unlike the rest of the world. But in time, they have severed that relationship even as far as worshiping idols in disbelief, saved a remnant preserved by the election of grace. So, when Peter together with the other apostles preached to the Jews in Acts 3, it was unbelief in Jesus as the Messiah sent by God, that was being addressed more than anything else. The call to repentance is from unbelief unto faith in Jesus, that He is the Christ, whom the God of Abraham had sent to save them.

In Acts 20:21, it is clear what repentance was that Paul is referring to that he preached even from the very first day he came to Asia, that is, repentance towards God and faith towards Jesus Christ.

Tong
R2734

 

[Grailhunter]

Acts 2:38
Peter replied, “Repent and be baptized, every one of you, in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins. And you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.

Regardless there is room for legitimate debate as to the need for repentance after one is saved. Not that there is not a need to repent our sins after we are saved, but because the Bible is not that clear on it.

Because the Bible does not state clearly that you should repent after you are saved to get your sins forgiven, more than one belief has come about.

1. That since there remains no sacrifice for sin and we are not going to crucify Christ again, there is no forgiveness for sins after we are saved, so there is no need to repent, and we will go to Judgment Day for a reckoning of our sins. Most people are not going to like that and neither do I.

2. That after we are saved and we sin, we should repent and confess our sins to Christ and He is faithful to forgive us unless we are living a lifestyle of sin. You cannot repent something that you intend to keep doing. I vote for this one.

3. That after we are saved and we sin, we can confess our sins to Christ and He is faithful to forgive us. This belief does not include repentance or the need for being sorry for our sins or making a commitment not to sin, and forgiveness in unlimited and all of evil will congregate into heaven.

4. That sins are automatically forgiven after we are saved, there is no need to repent and there is no limit to amount of sin we can commit and all of evil will congregate into heaven. For these last two cases I'll be looking to go somewhere else...I am sure I will not get along with that much evil. Maybe Sheol will have room. I am not even sure that God could get along with that much evil so He might join me in Sheol.

Then again if heaven will be the abode of evil, what is hell for?

 

[BloodBought 1953]

OSASers are some of the most judgmental people on Earth!

In your opinion and your opinion only....

It is “ my” opinion that the opposite is true.....NON OSAS believers are some of the most judgmental people on earth!

So there ya go.....now what?

 

[BloodBought 1953]

Acts 2:38
Peter replied, “Repent and be baptized, every one of you, in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins. And you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.

Regardless there is room for legitimate debate as to the need for repentance after one is saved. Not that there is not a need to repent our sins after we are saved, but because the Bible is not that clear on it.

Because the Bible does not state clearly that you should repent after you are saved to get your sins forgiven, more than one belief has come about.

1. That since there remains no sacrifice for sin and we are not going to crucify Christ again, there is no forgiveness for sins after we are saved, so there is no need to repent, and we will go to Judgment Day for a reckoning of our sins. Most people are not going to like that and neither do I.

2. That after we are saved and we sin, we should repent and confess our sins to Christ and He is faithful to forgive us unless we are living a lifestyle of sin. You cannot repent something that you intend to keep doing. I vote for this one.

3. That after we are saved and we sin, we can confess our sins to Christ and He is faithful to forgive us. This belief does not include repentance or the need for being sorry for our sins or making a commitment not to sin, and forgiveness in unlimited and all of evil will congregate into heaven.

4. That sins are automatically forgiven after we are saved, there is no need to repent and there is no limit to amount of sin we can commit and all of evil will congregate into heaven. For these last two cases I'll be looking to go somewhere else...I am sure I will not get along with that much evil. Maybe Sheol will have room. I am not even sure that God could get along with that much evil so He might join me in Sheol.

Then again if heaven will be the abode of evil, what is hell for?

We are SAVED by GRACE......yet in NONE of the preceding posts do we see that word even mentioned....strange, that......
When I sin, which is way more often than I’d like to admit....I do the same thing with my Sins that God does—— I put them on the Cross .....and then , like God, as far as Salvation is concerned....I “ remember them no more.....
Nobody “ gets away” with anything though ....I accept any Chastisement that comes my way to teach myself and others a lesson ......
As far as Salvation goes however —- “ Where Sin abounds, Grace SUPER ABOUNDS” ..... I thank and Praise God for His Grace .....the ONLY thing that ever Saved anybody that ever got Saved .....and as I pointed out....
It is never even mentioned.....I try to be like Paul—- I try not to “Hold back the Grace Of God” and I , because if my Strong Faith in the Blood That purchased that Grace for me ......I BOLDLY approach the Throne of Grace for my Forgiveness....God likes that...
Mental Midgets like those we see on display in these forums at times , think that gives people a “ License to Sin”.....they are Ignorant....In reality, knowing these things to be True makes me want to sin less.....you have to live it to understand it.....If Grace has never been extended to you, you’ll never know either .....
There is a price to pay when you disobey God By Adding to His Gospel Of Grace Plus Nothing.....you “ Fall From Grace”..... Not having it extended to you in your life and experiencing a crippled Walk Of Faith , never having any true Rest or Assurance or Peace or Joy In your lifetime —- always having to worry about your “ performance” ( have I “ done” enough, have I “ Repented” enough)—— perhaps that is what “ Falling from Grace “ entails.......some had better hope so.....a lot of smart teachers say it is equivalent to Damnation.....we’ll see, won’t we ?

 

[BloodBought 1953]

Then again if heaven will be the abode of evil, what is hell for?


Heaven is for FORGIVEN evil- doers ( David, Lot, etc) — Forgiven for their Faith ,while Hell is reserved for UNFORGIVEN Evil-Doers like Hitler who “ could “ have been Saved , but refused to “ Cash In” On Jesus had ALREADY accomplished “ for” them at the Cross......
Both groups did their evil.......Believers went to Heaven and Unbelievers went to Hell....it was what they Believed- NOT how they behaved....Grace ain’t “ Fair”. Get over it .

 

[Tong2020]

Nobody “ gets away” with anything though ....I accept any Chastisement that comes my way to teach myself and others a lesson ......

I do too. When I fall into sin, especially after so much struggle, I call to my heavenly Father in prayer and ask Him for His forgiveness, in the name of His Son Jesus Christ. I accept His chastisement in total surrender as I know that His chastisement is good for me.

Tong
R2743

 

[Behold]

Whose material was I using?

Here is your quote.

""""""" This is an article for the magazine in India that is run by a friend of mine, Melchishua Paul.""

So, as i said.
Congrats on using other people's work, (again).

 

[justbyfaith]

Consider the Following......


Repentance and Conversion

by George Whitefield

"Repent ye therefore, and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out, when the times of refreshing shall come from the presence of the Lord" (Acts 3:19, KJV).

It is a pity that modern preachers do not pay more attention to the method that the apostles followed in preaching Jesus Christ! The success and divine authority of their discourses should impress ministers of the gospel more than all modern schemes. If this were the case, ministers would first learn to sow and then to reap. They would endeavor to plow up the fallow ground and to prepare people for God's blessings to rain down upon them.

This is the way Peter preached when under divine influence at Pentecost. Despite the fact that many of his listeners were educated, prominent people, he boldly charged them with murdering the Son of God. His piercing accusation entered deep into their conscience and was used by the Holy Spirit to give them a proper sense of themselves.

The apostle then let them know that, although their sin was great, it was not unpardonable. They had been part of the horrid crime of murdering the Lord of life, and had thereby incurred the penalty of eternal death. Yet there was mercy for them in the way prescribed: "Repent ye therefore, and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out" (Acts 3:19).

But must we preach conversion to a professing people? Some of you, perhaps, are ready to say, "Go among the savages and preach repentance and conversion there, or preach conversion to the drunkards." Possibly others will say, "Who are you to preach repentance and conversion to us?" However, if God's Spirit finds you out and reveals your heart, you will have a different opinion of yourselves and will not be angry with a minister of Jesus Christ for preaching conversion to your souls.

Conversion is not changing from one set of principles to another. You who have been raised with Christianity are in the greatest danger of being zealous for orthodox principles without being transformed by them into the image of God. Others think that they are converted because they have reformed their lifestyle. However, reformation is not renovation. The outside of the platter may be washed while the inside remains filthy. A person may turn from profaneness to morality and therefore believe that he is converted, yet his heart is still unrenewed.

You have not heard me, I hope, speak a word against reformation. You have not heard me speak a word against being good. No, both are right in their place. However, you may have this kind of conversion and yet never be truly converted at all.

What is conversion then? In order to be truly converted, a man must become a new creature and be converted from his own righteousness to the righteousness of the Lord Jesus Christ. Conviction will always precede spiritual conversion. You may be convicted without being converted, but you cannot be converted without being convicted.

True conversion means turning not only from sin but also from depending on self-made righteousness. Those who trust in their own righteousness for conversion hide behind their own good works. This is the reason that self-righteous people are so angry with gospel preachers, because the gospel does not spare those who will not submit to the righteousness of Jesus Christ!

I could almost say this is the last stroke the Lord Jesus gave Paul to turn him to real Christianity. After describing him as a persecutor, Christ brought him out of himself by revealing His person and office as a Savior: "I am Jesus" (Acts 9:5). As a result, Paul would later say, "I count all things but loss . . . that I may win Christ, and be found in him, not having my own righteousness, which is of the law, but that which is through the faith of Christ, the righteousness which is of God by faith" (Phil. 3:8-9).

We talk in vain about being converted until we see ourselves as lost sinners and come to the Lord Jesus Christ to be washed in His blood and to be clothed in His imputed righteousness. The consequence of this application of Christ's righteousness to the soul will be a conversion from sin to holiness.

The Bible says, "If any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new" (2 Cor. 5:17). As a newborn child has all the parts of an adult, so when a person is converted to God, there are all the features of the new creature and growth until God translates him to glory. Anything short of this is but the shadow instead of the substance.

The author of conversion is the Holy Ghost. It is not based on free will or moral persuasion. Nothing short of the influence of the Spirit of the living God can effect this change in a person's heart. Therefore, we are said to be "born again" and "born of the Spirit" not only with water but with the Holy Ghost (John 3:3, 6).

Although there continues to be a contest between these two opposites, flesh and spirit, yet if we are truly converted, the spirit will gain the ascendancy. Nature and grace may struggle in the womb of a converted soul for a while like Jacob and Esau did in the womb, yet the elder shall serve the younger (Gen. 25:22-23).

Jacob shall supplant and turn out Esau, or at least keep him under. This is the way a person proves that he is converted.

How do you account for such a change within the heart? Is it not Godlike? Is it not divine? Have you felt it? Have you experienced it? I could spend a whole sermon in speaking of conversion, but I am afraid those who sit under the gospel have more need of heat than light. However, if you are not yet converted, upon what other grounds do you hope for conversion? You ought to repent and be converted, for until you do, you can never find true rest for your soul.

If it is asked why a person should repent and be converted, I answer, "Because without conversion, there is no way to be happy after you die." You must be converted or be damned. That is plain English, but not plainer than my Master used. I did not speak the word as strongly as He did when He said, "He that believeth not shall be damned" (Mark 16:16). That is the language of our Lord.

Some have said that hell is only a temporary punishment. Who told them so? God grant you may never know the meaning of Jesus' words "I never knew you" (Matt. 7:23) by awful experience! Conversion makes you happy in eternity, and without it, you are damned forever.

But you say, "All in good time. I do not choose to be converted yet." Why? What age are you now? Suppose you are fourteen. Do you not think it time to be converted? There was a young man buried last night who was seventeen. Are you forty or fifty? Is that not the time? There was a poor woman who died suddenly two or three days ago. God grant that may not be the case with any of you. The only way to prevent that is to be enabled to think that "now is the accepted time; behold, now is the day of salvation" (2 Cor. 6:2).

It is a mercy that each of us has not been in hell a thousand times by now. How many are in hell that used to say, "Lord, convert me--but not now"? The road to hell is paved with good intentions. Now can you blame me for calling after you? Men, brethren, and fathers, hearken! God help you! Save yourselves from a wicked generation!

If you are damned for lack of conversion, remember that you are not damned for lack of warning. Thousands have not had the gospel preached to them, but you have heard. If there is a deeper place in hell, God will order a gospel-despising church member to be put there. You will have dreadful torments. Of him to whom so much is given, much will be required. How dreadful to have minister after minister say, "Lord God, I preached, but they would not hear." Think of this, professors, and God make you possessors!

You young people, I charge you to consider. God help you to repent and be converted. He woos and invites you. You middle-aged people, O that you would repent and be converted. You old, grey-headed people, the Lord make you repent and be converted. O I could preach until I preached myself dead. I would be glad to preach myself dead if God would convert you! May God bless His work on you that you may blossom and bring forth fruits unto God. Amen.

“Repent of Sins” And Find Yourself Damned...

 

[Ronald Nolette]

Again, this seems to be setting forth the idea that there are two Gods...one in the Old Testament and the other in the New.

For if there is one God in the Old and New Testaments, then there is also one definition for repentance in both Testaments.

The definition for repentance according to our singular God is what we find in Ezekiel 33:11-20.

'nuff said!

There is one God, but He governed differently mankind in each testament.

and no repentance is two different words with two different meanings. If you bothered to look it up you would know better.

 

[Ronald Nolette]

Repentance is not merely a change of mind (a mental exercise), as is clear from this:
Strong's Concordance
metanoeó: to change one's mind or purpose
Original Word: μετανοέω
Part of Speech: Verb
Transliteration: metanoeó
Phonetic Spelling: (met-an-o-eh'-o)
Definition: to change one's mind or purpose
Usage: I repent, change my mind, change the inner man (particularly with reference to acceptance of the will of God),
repent.

Thayer's Greek Lexicon
...used especially of those who, conscious of their sins and with manifest tokens of sorrow, are intent; on obtaining God's pardon; to repent (Latinpaenitentiam agere): μετανοῶ ἐν σάκκῳ καί σποδῷ, clothed in sackcloth and besprinkled with ashes, Matthew 11:21; Luke 10:13. to change one's mind for the better, heartily to amend with abhorrence of one's past sins: Matthew 3:2; Matthew 4:17; Mark 1:15 (cf. Matthew 3:6 ἐξομολογούμενοι τάς ἁμαρτίας αὐτῶν; Matthew 3:8 and Luke 3:8 καρπούς ἀξίους τῆς μετανοίας, i. e. conduct worthy of a heart changed and abhorring sin); (Matthew 11:20; Mark 6:12); Luke 13:3, 5; Luke 15:7, 10; Luke 16:30; Acts 2:38; Acts 3:19; Acts 17:30; Revelation 2:5, 16; Revelation 3:3, 19; on the phrase μετανοεῖν εἰς τό κήρυγμα τίνος, Matthew 12:41 and Luke 11:32, see εἰς, B. II. 2 d.; (Winer's Grammar, 397 (371)). Since τό μετανοεῖν expresses mental direction, the termini from which and to which may be specified: ἀπό τῆς κακίας, to withdraw or turn one's soul from, etc. (cf. Winers Grammar, 622 (577); especially Buttmann, 322 (277)), Acts 8:22; ἐκ τίνος, Revelation 2:21; Revelation 9:20; Revelation 16:11 (see ἐκ, I. 6; (cf. Buttmann, 327 (281), and Winer's Grammar, as above)); μετανοεῖν καί ἐπιστρέφειν ἐπί τόν Θεόν, Acts 26:20; followed by an infinitive indicating purpose (Winer's Grammar, 318 (298)), Revelation 16:9. (Synonym: see μεταμέλομαι.)

So it is a total turning away from sins and idols and turning to the living God and Christ. Kindly stop promoting your false doctrines.

Strongs concordance shows it all. It is a change of mind. Period! But if you were awake and lucid when you read my post you would have seen that a change of mind (which comes from being made the new man) produces a change of action or direction.

Your last line explicitly says that one has to become perfect or else it is not a true repentance! Have you made a TOTAL turning from all sins? Or do you still sin?

 

[Ronald Nolette]

Those who teach that we must turn from sin or else we are not saved are teaching according to the Bible.

For we are born dead in trespasses and sins (Ephesians 2:1); and therefore if we are not going to be workers of iniquity, we must repent.

It should be clear that workers of iniquity shall be cast into the furnace of everlasting fire (Matthew 13:41-42; Matthew 7:23, Matthew 25:41).

Those who work the works of the flesh shall not inherit the kingdom (Galatians 5:19-21).

Therefore, if you are going to inherit the kingdom, you must cease from working the works of the flesh (i.e. repent).

No it is not the bible inspired by god. That is a doctrine of demons instituted by the roman Church.

9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.

17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.

18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.

36 He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.


to add anything to this simple message of salvation is to preach another gospel!

Galatians 1:

But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.

9 As we said before, so say I now again, if any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.

We get saved first, then we are able to turn from sin. We cannot turn from sin until we are the new creature and have the Holy Spirit within us! Anything else is just man trying to have some control over theiur own salvation, which we do not.

 

[justbyfaith]

Lol.....and to think that I was hesitant in calling you a “ TARE”...... you are lower than a TARE.....someday the Angels Of God will yank you from the True Believers....

That is a lie from the pit of hell.

But you are only condemning yourself (Luke 6:37, Matthew 7:1-5, Luke 6:41-42).

“ Anybody that Asks to be Saved, WILL BE Saved”
That is not scripture. And, it can be taken to mean that a person can ask Allah to save them and they will be saved; or that a person can ask God to save them apart from faith in Jesus Christ and they will be saved.

False doctrine and heresy, I'm sorry to say.


God's Own Words..... described as “ False Doctrine and Heresy”..... am I the only one here that is not sickened and outraged about the Blasphemy of this Jack-Ass ? Why aren’t others speaking out? Do you think what he is doing is a small thing? He needs to be ejected from theses Forums—- short of that, he needs to be Strongly Rebuked even though that will be a waste of time with a Tare.....which is what he is.....somebody convince me that I am wrong....

@Blood Bought 1953, are you really contending for the idea that a person can ask Allah to save them and they will be saved; or that they can ask God to save them apart from Jesus Christ and they will be saved?

Did you even read my post before responding to it?

Is that true with the already saved (true Christians)? Yes or No and explain why.

Is that true with the Jews? Yes or No and explain why.

Is that true with the Gentiles? Yes or No and explain why.

Is that true with the pagans? Yes or No and explain why.

Is that true with the atheists? Yes or No and explain why.

Tong
R2732

No; because I am not a student in your classroom.

But feel free to answer your own questions.

,while Hell is reserved for UNFORGIVEN Evil-Doers like Hitler who “ could “ have been Saved , but refused to “ Cash In” On Jesus had ALREADY accomplished “ for” them at the Cross...

What makes you think Hitler didn't "cash in"?

History tells us that he professed a faith in Christianity.

And according to your doctrine, repentance isn't necessary for salvation.

Therefore, according to your theology, Hitler might even be rejoicing in heaven at this particular moment.

Here is your quote.

""""""" This is an article for the magazine in India that is run by a friend of mine, Melchishua Paul.""

So, as i said.
Congrats on using other people's work, (again).

Melchishua Paul is indeed my friend who is also publishing my article.

I have not been using anyone else's work.

But, thanks for the compliment.

It reminds me of a time when I wrote a gruesome poem for my Creative Writing class and the teacher said that if he hadn't seen me in the process of writing it, he would have thought that it had been written by Edgar Allen Poe or one of the great authors of the past.

The ensuing spiritual struggle actually led to my salvation.