Wrangler
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do you understand the difference between inheriting eternal life and inheriting the Kingdom? They are not the same things.
Where is this in Scripture?
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do you understand the difference between inheriting eternal life and inheriting the Kingdom? They are not the same things.
Okay, so you are the one who likes to avoid direct questions. Instead of maybe saying "that woman just needs a little bit of encouragement not to drink by reading God's word, etc." - you consign her to hell right after her profession, thinking it must be still born or not at all.
I think you'd make a great Pharisee.
Why do you place your theories above the Scriptures? The Scriptures clearly teach that no drunkard will inherit the Kingdom.
I don't have theories; the Bible is very clear. Salvation is by grace alone through faith alone in Christ alone (minus all of our works.)
I like giving benefits of the doubt before condemning people; you immediately judge.
All I do is point to the unbeliever and say - Believe on Him, and He will save you.
You add 'and make sure to submit to his Lordship ... oh, and make sure there is works afterwards that look Christian so I don't have to come out here with my phylacteries and chastise your sorry behind ...
You do understand that the grace of God sets us free from the stronghold of sin?
Romans 6
[14] For sin shall not have dominion over you: for ye are not under the law, but under grace.
[15] What then? shall we sin, because we are not under the law, but under grace? God forbid.
[16] Know ye not, that to whom ye yield yourselves servants to obey, his servants ye are to whom ye obey; whether of sin unto death, or of obedience unto righteousness?
[17] But God be thanked, that ye were the servants of sin, but ye have obeyed from the heart that form of doctrine which was delivered you.
[18] Being then made free from sin, ye became the servants of righteousness.
If you are not telling people to repent that they might receive the remission of sin, then you're not witnessing for Jesus.
Luke 24
[46] And [Jesus] said unto them, Thus it is written, and thus it behoved Christ to suffer, and to rise from the dead the third day:
[47] And that repentance and remission of sins should be preached in his name among all nations, beginning at Jerusalem.
[48] And ye are witnesses of these things.
Jesus came to call sinners to repentance. Reviling God’s Word will get you no where.
Well you don't believe you sin anymore1 Your words are not Gods Words, despite your over estimation of yourself.
John the Baptist defined repentance; it's not a change of mind but rather a change of direction, one that brings forth the fruit of holiness.
Matthew 3
[1] In those days came John the Baptist, preaching in the wilderness of Judaea,
[2] And saying, Repent ye: for the kingdom of heaven is at hand.
[3] For this is he that was spoken of by the prophet Esaias, saying, The voice of one crying in the wilderness, Prepare ye the way of the Lord, make his paths straight.
[4] And the same John had his raiment of camel's hair, and a leathern girdle about his loins; and his meat was locusts and wild honey.
[5] Then went out to him Jerusalem, and all Judaea, and all the region round about Jordan,
[6] And were baptized of him in Jordan, confessing their sins.
[7] But when he saw many of the Pharisees and Sadducees come to his baptism, he said unto them, O generation of vipers, who hath warned you to flee from the wrath to come?
[8] Bring forth therefore fruits meet for repentance:
[9] And think not to say within yourselves, We have Abraham to our father: for I say unto you, that God is able of these stones to raise up children unto Abraham.
[10] And now also the axe is laid unto the root of the trees: therefore every tree which bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.
Do you serve Jesus or sin? Because you cannot serve both. Are you a Saint or a sinner? Because you cannot be both.
Okay, where in that section: a) does it show John the Baptist's message was a Christian message ... but even if I give you this letter A, then even b) Where does it suggest that repentance is reformation of a bad life and resolution to do better in the future? In fact, I'd point you to John 8 (hope you aren't a modern Bible critic who doesn't think the adulterous woman story is not in the text). Did Jesus *not condemn* the adulterous woman *before* or *after* telling her to sin no more?
but even if I give you this letter A, then even b) Where does it suggest that repentance is reformation of a bad life and resolution to do better in the future? In fact, I'd point you to John 8 (hope you aren't a modern Bible critic who doesn't think the adulterous woman story is not in the text). Did Jesus *not condemn* the adulterous woman *before* or *after* telling her to sin no more?
Again, I'll take LETTER C: I'm a Saint who may occasionally sin because we are not perfect after salvation. I don't necessarily believe the insinuation that may have been made by another brother that you say your sinless. Am I wrong in that belief?
Again, I'll take LETTER C: I'm a Saint who may occasionally sin because we are not perfect after salvation.
Do you serve Jesus or sin? Because you cannot serve both. Are you a Saint or a sinner? Because you cannot be both.
There isn't a different message, but rather a new covenant. Repentance is required, whether under the Law or under Grace. John the Baptist was the fulfillment of the prophet Isaiah. John the Baptist was preparing the way of the LORD by crying for repentance.
Isaiah 40
[3] The voice of him that crieth in the wilderness, Prepare ye the way of the LORD, make straight in the desert a highway for our God.
[4] Every valley shall be exalted, and every mountain and hill shall be made low: and the crooked shall be made straight, and the rough places plain:
[5] And the glory of the LORD shall be revealed, and all flesh shall see it together: for the mouth of the LORD hath spoken it.
Jesus did not condemn the adulterous woman, but forgave and pointed her to repentance. You're merely proving my point. What if the woman said, "thank you Jesus for your forgiveness but I'm not going to turn from my sin"? No repentance = No Salvation.
Actually, I'm not proving your point. Jesus forgave the woman FIRST ... *then*
Not knowingly. If I do something wrong unintentionally, and after the fact it comes to my attention, I ask Jesus for forgiveness and to help me to be mindful to not do it again.Well do you sin ever????
No. First is always turning to Jesus FIRST ... *then*
No. First is always turning to Jesus FIRST ... *then*
Not knowingly. If I do something wrong unintentionally, and after the fact it comes to my attention, I ask Jesus for forgiveness and to help me to be mindful to not do it again.