Is the spirit of antichrist apostate Israel?

Marty fox · Aug 7, 2021

When we read these verses below which are the only verses in the bible which use the term antichrist I think it’s pretty clear that John was talking about the apostate Israel of his time.

1 John 2:22
22 Who is the liar? It is whoever denies that Jesus is the Christ. Such a person is the antichrist—denying the Father and the Son.

1 John 4:3
3 but every spirit that does not acknowledge Jesus is not from God. This is the spirit of the antichrist, which you have heard is coming and even now is already in the world.

2 John 1:7
I say this because many deceivers, who do not acknowledge Jesus Christ as coming in the flesh, have gone out into the world. Any such person is the deceiver and the antichrist.

1 John 4:1-3
Dear friends, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world. 2 This is how you can recognize the Spirit of God: Every spirit that acknowledges that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is from God, 3 but every spirit that does not acknowledge Jesus is not from God. This is the spirit of the antichrist, which you have heard is coming and even now is already in the world.

GISMYS_7 · Aug 7, 2021

Just know that God's love for His chosen people the Jewish people and Israel is eternal.
Romans 11:25-29
For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.

26And so """all Israel shall be saved""": as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:

27For this is my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins.

28As concerning the gospel, they are enemies for your sakes: but as touching the election, they are beloved for the fathers' sakes.

29For the gifts and calling of God are without repentance.

Marty fox · Aug 7, 2021

GISMYS_7 said:
Just know that God's love for His chosen people the Jewish people and Israel is eternal.
Romans 11:25-29
For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.

26And so """all Israel shall be saved""": as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:

27For this is my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins.

28As concerning the gospel, they are enemies for your sakes: but as touching the election, they are beloved for the fathers' sakes.

29For the gifts and calling of God are without repentance.

Of course but that has nothing to do with this thread read Matthew chapter 23 and see what exactly what Jesus thought of apostate Israel.

This is why Paul said “not all Israel is Israel”

So the question is who exactly is true Israel?

In verse 26 that you quoted who is Zion and who is Jacob? Why did God use two terms for Israel?

One is ethnic Israel and one is the Faithful Israel

GISMYS_7 · Aug 7, 2021

DUH!!! Israel is the nation of Jewish people=God's eternal chosen people!!

Marty fox · Aug 7, 2021

GISMYS_7 said:
DUH!!! Israel is the nation of Jewish people=God's eternal chosen people!!

Im not sure about you but I’m a gentle. I am also Gods eternal chosen son

GISMYS_7 · Aug 8, 2021

Marty fox said:
Im not sure about you but I’m a gentle. I am also Gods eternal chosen son

GREAT!! then you must love Israel and the jewish people!! Remember Jesus is a Jew!!

Marty fox · Aug 8, 2021

GISMYS_7 said:
GREAT!! then you must love Israel and the jewish people!! Remember Jesus is a Jew!!

Yes but what makes you think that I don’t?

This thread is about apostate Israel the people Jesus called a brood of vipers and said that their father is satan

The ones God punished who rejected and killed Him

GISMYS_7 · Aug 8, 2021

Marty fox said:
Yes but what makes you think that I don’t?

This thread is about apostate Israel the people Jesus called a brood of vipers and said that their father is satan

The ones God punished who rejected and killed Him

PTL. For God's forgiveness!!
Romans 11:25-29
For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.

26And so """all Israel shall be saved""": as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:

27For this is my covenant unto them, when """I shall take away their sins."""

28As concerning the gospel, they are enemies for your sakes: but as touching the election, they are beloved for the fathers' sakes.

29For the gifts and calling of God are without repentance.

michaelvpardo · Aug 14, 2021

I'm sure that Adolf Hitler would say yes, but he was himself an antichrist, rejecting Jesus for the old teutonic gods and his version of aryianism. Adolf Hitler was neither a Jew or a part of Israel.

Zao is life · Aug 14, 2021

Marty fox said:
When we read these verses below which are the only verses in the bible which use the term antichrist I think it’s pretty clear that John was talking about the apostate Israel of his time.

1 John 2:22
22 Who is the liar? It is whoever denies that Jesus is the Christ. Such a person is the antichrist—denying the Father and the Son.

1 John 4:3
3 but every spirit that does not acknowledge Jesus is not from God. This is the spirit of the antichrist, which you have heard is coming and even now is already in the world.

2 John 1:7
I say this because many deceivers, who do not acknowledge Jesus Christ as coming in the flesh, have gone out into the world. Any such person is the deceiver and the antichrist.

1 John 4:1-3
Dear friends, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world. 2 This is how you can recognize the Spirit of God: Every spirit that acknowledges that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is from God, 3 but every spirit that does not acknowledge Jesus is not from God. This is the spirit of the antichrist, which you have heard is coming and even now is already in the world.

Yes, and the next and final apostasy of Israel will be the Church, because the Greek word naos in 2Thessalonians 2:4 makes it very likely that the tabernacle of God that the son of perdition will seat himself up in, is the Church, and this man's appearance is accompanied by what the Greek words of verse 3 calls O apostasía (THE apostasy).

Zao is life · Aug 14, 2021

Marty fox said:
This thread is about apostate Israel the people Jesus called a brood of vipers and said that their father is satan

The ones God punished who rejected and killed Him

To many people these days (including many, many Christians), parts of the New Testament scriptures are "anti-semitic" not because they teach us that all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, but because we name people the scriptures name, and though the Old Testament is full of accusations against Israel and Judah, these days that's not permitted for the New Testament - unless we are talking about the sins of the Gentiles.

Zao is life · Aug 14, 2021

Marty fox said:
This is why Paul said “not all Israel is Israel”

So the question is who exactly is true Israel?

I agree with you. Jesus is our Ark. Only those who are in Him through faith in Him are in the Ark. Israel is the promised seed who is Christ (Galatians 3:16), and those who through faith in Him are in Him. It does not matter to God by what name anyone else calls themselves.

Ronald David Bruno · Aug 15, 2021

Marty fox said:
When we read these verses below which are the only verses in the bible which use the term antichrist I think it’s pretty clear that John was talking about the apostate Israel of his time.

1 John 2:22
22 Who is the liar? It is whoever denies that Jesus is the Christ. Such a person is the antichrist—denying the Father and the Son.

1 John 4:3
3 but every spirit that does not acknowledge Jesus is not from God. This is the spirit of the antichrist, which you have heard is coming and even now is already in the world.

2 John 1:7
I say this because many deceivers, who do not acknowledge Jesus Christ as coming in the flesh, have gone out into the world. Any such person is the deceiver and the antichrist.

1 John 4:1-3
Dear friends, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world. 2 This is how you can recognize the Spirit of God: Every spirit that acknowledges that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is from God, 3 but every spirit that does not acknowledge Jesus is not from God. This is the spirit of the antichrist, which you have heard is coming and even now is already in the world.

One thing about Christ, you are either for Him or against Him. Some may not admit they are against Christ, but they decide themselves. Rejection of Christ, sinful behavior, lust, idolatry and all forms of evil are acts of rebelliousness towards the true God. So since we have 2.65 billion people for Christ, that means almost all the rest are Antichrist. Some are in transition, sheep on His list that He is planning on calling and saving very soon and that includes a remnant Israel - as many as 5 million Jews will soon be enlightened to Christ during th GT.

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