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RichardBurger

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Who is Jesus referring to in Matt. 11:11

Matthew 11:11
11 "Assuredly, I say to you, among those born of women there has not risen one greater than John the Baptist; but he who is least in the kingdom of heaven is greater than he.
NKJV

Since the word "he" is singular could it be that Jesus is looking ahead to the mission of Paul?

1 Corinthians 15:9
9 For I am the least of the apostles, who am not worthy to be called an apostle, because I persecuted the church of God.
NKJV

Ephesians 3:8-9
8 To me, who am less than the least of all the saints, this grace was given, that I should preach among the Gentiles the unsearchable riches of Christ,
9 and to make all see what is the fellowship of the mystery, which from the beginning of the ages has been hidden in God who created all things through Jesus Christ;
NKJV

In my opinion the answer is yes.
 

888

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My thoughts are that Jesus is referring to the 144,000. I believe they are described as the New Jerusalem(Kingdom of heaven) coming down from heaven in Revelations prepared as a bride for Jesus which is the kingdom coming down to earth. That kingdom dwells with the rest of the people on the new earth which is the great multitude. Jesus says he who is least is greater than John, meaning John isn't a part of this group in the kingdom of heaven. If john isn't, then this group must be some really special people. The only group that I can find in the Bible that matches up to this is the 144,000.

The 144,00 are described as being kings with Jesus which would place them in the Kingdom of heaven. They are also described as the only ones being able to learn the new song which puts them in a class of their own.

Revelation:

""Now the dwelling of God(Kingdom of Heaven/144,000) is with men(Great multitude), and he will live with them. They will be his people(great multitude), and God himself will be with them and be their God. He will wipe every tear from their eyes...(which is description of the great multitude, also shown again here...)"

Revelation 8:3 (great multitude) "...For the Lamb at the center of the throne will be their shepherd; he will lead them to springs of living water. And God will wipe away every tear form their eyes."

The 144,000 isn't ever described as having every tear wiped from their eyes, instead they are described as being redeemed from the earth and learning a new song that no one else could learn(which I'd assume is from the overflowing joy from being redeemed).

I also believe the 144,000 is who Paul is referring to when he says this...

I am jealous for you with a godly jealousy. I promised you to one husband(144,000 being the bride), to Christ, so that I might present you as a pure virgin to him.

One of the descriptions of the 144,000 is that they are not defiled with women, for they are virgins.

I also believe this is referring to the 144k referring to the kingdom of heaven.

"For there are some eunuchs, which were so born from their mother's womb: and there are some eunuchs, which were made eunuchs of men: and there be eunuchs, which have made themselves eunuchs(celibate) for the kingdom of heaven's sake. He that is able to receive it, let him receive it."

I hope I didn't side step too much here to make my point. If there's any other ideas from others on this subject I'd be open to hear them.

I'd also like to add this...

"but he who is least in the kingdom of heaven is greater than he.
NKJV

Since the word "he" is singular could it be that Jesus is looking ahead to the mission of Paul?"

Jesus says "he", but it doesn't mean singular as he mentions he who is "least". Meaning there is more than one of them that Jesus is describing being greater than John. You would also think that John would be greater than Paul, as Paul persecuted the people of Christ at one point in his life-time.

I'd like to end with that I'm one who truly believes that the 144,00 is a literal number. You can see throughout the Bible that God used groups of twelve to continue out his ministry. The 144,000 being a factor of 12, as well as there being twelves tribes with 12,000 from each.

The 144,000 is also in contrast to the great multitude that no one can number.

Yes, Revelation is symbolic, but the numbers are literal. There may be 11 horns, horns being symbolic, but there being 11 is literal. So if 144,000 were to be taken symbolically than the other numbers in revelation couldn't be taken literal.

It's also clear that the 144,000 are separate from the great-multitude as they are wearing fine-linen opposed to white robes and holding palm branches. They also learn a new song that no one else can but them.

I thought I should add that in there to strengthen my whole view point on your question.

Like I said, I'm open to hear other thoughts on this subject. I need to get back into fully studying the Bible as it's been a little while.
 

888

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OP,

Reading your post over again got me thinking even more to make sure what I said was still true to me. I ran into this website which adds even more to what I've posted above...

[LINK] http://www.kjvbible....hekingdoms.html

"Knowing the doctrinal difference between the terms "Kingdom of Heaven" and "Kingdom of God" is the key to understanding the complete time line of Biblical history past, present, and future, the proper place of the Church, and the prophetic future of Israel. The Bible is about the struggle for a Kingdom; the Kingdom of Heaven, a Kingdom with its Capital City (Jerusalem) on this Earth.
Israel rejected the Lord Jesus Christ as the Messiah when He first came because Israel was looking for a political King who would make Israel the world ruling kingdom spoken of by their prophets. (See Jeremiah 23:5, Psalms 48:2.) They were expecting a military deliverance from the Romans and the rest of the heathen. This is easy to understand as they were expecting carnal deliverance. However, they were missing the point about spiritual deliverance and righteousness, which led them to ask of Jesus:

"And when he was demanded of the Pharisees, when the kingdom of God should come, he answered them and said, The kingdom of God cometh not with observation: Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you."
(Luke 17:20-21 KJV)
In that statement, Jesus was declaring a spiritual truth that Israel did not see. But on another occasion, when asked about His Kingdom by Pontius Pilate, He gave a somewhat different answer:

"Jesus answered, My kingdom is not of this world: if my kingdom were of this world, then would my servants fight, that I should not be delivered to the Jews: but now is my kingdom not from hence."
(John 18:36 KJV)
In this particular passage the word "now" is not speaking about the spiritual Kingdom of God (within you), but of a literal political Kingdom yet to come on the Earth. You should also take note that the word "now" has been removed from many newer translations (NASB, AMP, NLT, ESV, CEV). The reason is because most of the translators of today's "Bibles" are amillennial in their position on prophecy. In other words, they do not accept the literal return of the Lord Jesus Christ to reign on the Earth for a thousand years as foretold in Revelation.
Although that truth is rejected by a major portion of "Christianity" today, His disciples knew it and were asking when the literal Kingdom would come:

"When they therefore were come together, they asked of him, saying, Lord, wilt thou at this time restore again the kingdom to Israel? And he said unto them, It is not for you to know the times or the seasons, which the Father hath put in his own power. But ye shall receive power, after that the Holy Ghost is come upon you: and ye shall be witnesses unto me both in Jerusalem, and in all Judaea, and in Samaria, and unto the uttermost part of the earth."
(Acts 1:6-8 KJV)
The disciples are clearly asking about a literal Kingdom, and the Lord says it is not for them to know the time when that literal Kingdom (the Kingdom of Heaven) will take place. Until that time the disciples were given power to preach the Kingdom of God; righteousness through faith in the risen Savior who will return to Earth and rule over the whole Earth from Jerusalem..."

The only people described coming down out of heaven to the new earth, as the New Jerusalem, is the 144,000. This would be the Kingdom of Heaven.
 

888

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After reading over Revelations, I've ran into thoughts that I've yet to be able to put together as of yet. Don't take what I said about the Great Multitude not being part of the Kingdom of Heaven being truth as of yet.

I'm going to spend time tomorrow trying to search the logic in the scriptures. It's very confusing at the moment, but I'm going to pray to God that he'll show me wisdom.

I still hold to the 144,000 being part of the Kingdom of Heaven, but want to be sure on the Great Multitude as well.

From what I've gathered, the 144k/Great Multitude is part of the first resurrection. Then there's the rest of man-kind that comes to life at the second resurrection after the 1,000 year reign is over to be judged to weather or not they are thrown into the lake of fire.

So when I posted this above...

"""Now the dwelling of God(Kingdom of Heaven/144,000) is with men(Great multitude), and he will live with them. They will be his people(great multitude), and God himself will be with them and be their God. He will wipe every tear from their eyes...(which is description of the great multitude, also shown again here...)""

Where I put "(great multitude)" would actually be the rest of man-kind from the second resurrection if they are found to be written in the book of life.

I'll will post all my thoughts up tomorrow. It's important to me that I don't spread any false teachings.