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I hadn't seen this thread before. Your original post is a riot! The incessant Pop Clock Updates are a hoot! Is this whole thing yet another Monty Python skit? Is it all tongue-in-cheek or are you serious? I'm not suggesting there's anything wrong if you're serious, but I'd genuinely like to know. I like to think I recognize comedic genius when I see it, and I'm pretty sure I see it here.Pop Clock Update: 574 days have elapsed since beginning the thread. If the
figures in post #1 are within reason, then something like 31,625,104 new
arrivals have checked into the fiery sector of hades since Apr 12, 2012.
If classical Christianity's perception of the hereafter is correct; then it's
apparent that souls never stop cascading into the abyss in an endless
procession like the unbelievable millions of poultry broilers passing annually
through Tyson chicken processing plants on their way to Wendy's,
McDonalds, Carl's Junior, Jack in the Box, Burger King, Chic-fil-A, KFC, A&W,
Arby's, Dairy Queen, Taco Bell, et al; and to supermarkets and restaurants
all over the USA and wherever else Tyson vends its meats. The slaughtering
and the butchering never stop.
Cookin' like chickens on a KFC grill!Pop Clock Update: 4,366 days have elapsed since beginning the thread. If
the figures in post No.1 are within reason, then something like 240,549,136
new arrivals have checked into the fiery sector of Hades since Apr 12, 2012
Those you say are condemned by God, by Whose hands will be thrown into a place of suffering, that is eternal, never ending prepared by God, have no means of escaping from God's hands. And you are at peace with entrusting these people into this Person's hands for safe keeping on death row til He is ready to condemn them without any chance of parole. You are ok to believe in and love such a Being Who acts in this way. Yet One Who has no control over such people except to contain or restrain them in His hand's til He, according to His pleasure, sends them to a place He has thought up, designed, built and has at the ready for that great day of final judgment?Those numbers are entirely in God's hands
At this point of proceedings, will Jesus, the Lamb Who takes away the sin of the world, be absent, therefore not available to help them in their time of extreme need?as their eyes dart about in sheer white-knuckled panic,
desperately looking for someone, anyone, to help them
If it's a public spectacle, I'm thinking Jesus the Scapegoat and Redeemer will be present at this event, this judgement trial but will have to go against His divine nature of love which is kind, forgives and keeps no record of wrong.Much of the tears, the mourning, the crying, and the pain will most certainly
be related to the great white throne event depicted at Rev 20:11-15, which
will likely be a public spectacle.
The God or god you imagine would be a merciless, vengeful, cruel, destructive person if He can redeem all beings to Himself but chooses not too.I'd imagine the lake of fire will be a terrible disappointment for the
beautiful people. It's bad enough they lose their looks the first time around:
losing their looks all over again will be devastating.
Well, but what about the angels who fell? They remain in hell.Will beings do some time for their crime? Sure. But forever? Not on God's watch. He will ensure that His grace eventually becomes irresistible. They will turn to God and call out for mercy.
The amazing thing is that the unrepentant angels who need to repent, be redeemed and reconciled to their Creator certainly will in time. When that is God hadn't revealed to me.Well, but what about the angels who fell? They remain in hell.
Also, one out of every three angels fell into hell. What about us? Will about a third fall?
The amazing thing is that the unrepentant angels who need to repent, be redeemed and reconciled to their Creator certainly will in time. When that is God hadn't revealed to me.
It will be at some stage in the existence of God after those who have done their crime have done some time in the lake of fire.
The blood of Christ will be effective in this process and the Creator will receive them to Himself and He will be over ALL having reconciled ALL things to Himself, of and in heaven, of and in earth. Now isn't that the greatest news of all, the gospel.
It still baffles me when I come across statements like yours.What you are presenting is not the gospel of the scriptures.
Isiaih 24:21-23 speaks to this topic of redemption and the judged heavenly hosts, the angels who rebelled against God in the heavenlies, they are not forgiven and are imprisoned for many days waiting the time of their punishment.
What you are presenting is UR theology which is not found in the scriptures at all.
Goodbye
I love how God reveals Himself in a variety of ways, using various means. And yes, the words within the bible being merely one of these.
Personally I don't read much at all. Not the bible nor other well known within Christian writers material.
Excuse my ignorance but what is UR theology?
Sure. No worries. Thanks for your reply.Oh well, there is no point in then having a conversation with you then.