Messiah 2030

Spiritual Israelite said:

None of the definitions for the word "genea" are the average human life span. There is nothing hard to understand about this.

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Which is why I said If none of these dialects have a definition for generation then fuhgettaboutit

Douggg said:

The person revealing himself to be the man of sin by the 2Thessalonians2:4 act will be around three years into the 7 years

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No, he'll be presented at the start of the 7 years and will be mostly peaceful for the first 3 1/2 years which is when he tricks everyone in to thinking he is a good guy with answers to all the world's problems and this time will be so deceptive that many of those claiming to be Christians will also be deceived by this guy believing the Lord sent him as a blessing to mankind and they will accept and follow him!

Douggg said:

As far as identifying who that person is - yes, it is possible to know before the 7 years start

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OK, so prove you know who this person is and prove he's the actual anti-christ.

The reason you cannot prove this is because the anti-christ has not been revealed to the world yet.

All you have on this is guess work and your own opinion, no proof.

rebuilder 454 said:

The great apostasy proceeds the Antichrist revealed.

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Exactly, and that apostasy has been going on now in earnest since the 60s when the whole hippies Jesus movement got started

Every since then we've seen the rise of the false grace teaching where people think they can engage in sinful behavior and still be saved which is apostasy causing many to refuse to hear sound doctrine and to align themselves with teachers who tickle their ears and tell them only what they want to hear.

rebuilder 454 said:

75% of Christians will know that he is the Antichrist.

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When it all goes down, very few Christians will know the man of sin is the antichrist due to the apostasy most people claiming to be Christian are engaged in apostasy.

Dave Watchman said:

The falling away is the falling away from the laws of Moses

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The Law of Moses was done away with by Jesus when He arrived and brought forth the New Covenant and He is not the High Priest
Hebrews 10:9 Then said he, Lo, I come to do thy will, O God. He taketh away the first, that he may establish the second.
(God said He would make a New Covenant - see Jeremiah 31:31-34)

Hebrews 8:6 But now hath Jesus obtained a more excellent ministry, by how much also Jesus is the mediator of a better covenant, which was established upon better promises.

And with the changing of the priesthood, God’s Word tells us there is also a change of the law.

Hebrews 7:12 For the priesthood being changed, there is made of necessity a change also of the law.

Dave Watchman said:

On Saturday I always say Peaceful Sabbath

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Our peace in the New Covenant comes from Jesus, not from any sabbath days or any other observance in the old covenant.

Jesus said come unto me and I'll give you rest (Matthew 11:28-30) so abiding In Christ is the rest we are called to in the New Testament

rebuilder 454 said:

Apostacy in the greek translated "departure" or "from standing"
Has nothing to do with the world.

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Actually it does because when someone departs from the Lord they return to the world

There's only two ways to live: Following the Lord in agreement with Him and following the world in agreement with them which of course is walking with the devil.

The Light said:

We are told to WATCH by the Lord. I have run across a three-part video, that I would imagine that many of you have seen. Scripture after scripture is claimed to indicate that Jesus returns in 2030.

Have any of you seen these videos and do you think they are correct?

Here is part one.


This 2030 date is actually the date that the millennial kingdom is set up.

If the millennial kingdom is set up in 2030, what should we be seeing today?

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Only by reinterpreting Scripture can one get a date of 2030.

We will know the actual date of Jesus' return when we see Israel sign a 7 year covenant with the Antichrist. And before that we must see Russia invade Israel as declared in Eza. 38-39. God said Israel would burn the weapons of war for fuel for 7 years. And as Iswrael flees the land of Israel at teh midpoint of the 7 years of the tribulation, the earliest jesus can return to set up His Millennial kingdom is at the end of 2035!

Douggg said:

Dave, I agree with you that person who becomes the Antichrist has not been revealed yet.

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Thanks for finding something we agree on. It's fun to agree on something. :)

Peaceful Sabbath.

TLHKAJ said:

Daniel 9:27
And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.

I believe the scripture indicates that the 7 year or one week covenant will be confirmed by a man. Also, are we seeing sacrifices happen yet??

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CORRECT

the 7 year peace treaty is made by the Antichrist = not from God

There is no 7 year tribulation period because the first half(3.5 years) has already come and gone.

All that remains are the last 3.5 years which will begin when the "man of sin is revealed"

Big Boy Johnson said:

When it all goes down, very few Christians will know the man of sin is the antichrist due to the apostasy most people claiming to be Christian are engaged in apostasy.

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Like I was saying, we're not justified by the Law, but we're still supposed to try to follow what God said.

Big Boy Johnson said:

The Law of Moses was done away with by Jesus when He arrived and brought forth the New Covenant and He is not the High Priest
Hebrews 10:9 Then said he, Lo, I come to do thy will, O God. He taketh away the first, that he may establish the second.
(God said He would make a New Covenant - see Jeremiah 31:31-34)

Hebrews 8:6 But now hath Jesus obtained a more excellent ministry, by how much also Jesus is the mediator of a better covenant, which was established upon better promises.

And with the changing of the priesthood, God’s Word tells us there is also a change of the law.

Hebrews 7:12 For the priesthood being changed, there is made of necessity a change also of the law.

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Do not think that Christ came to do away with the Commandments. Do you think that because Jesus fulfilled the requirement of the Law on the Cross, we should go around continuing to sin? Heaven forbid!

Falling away:



Rebellion reaching it's limit:



It's not just the individuals participating in the transgressions, it's societies acceptance of the practice. They've fallen so far away, people just think it's normal now. It's like the Days of Noah, like in the Days of Lot. Once we reach that point again, it's time to have a bag packed.

Remember "the Law brings wrath; for where there is no law there is no transgression, reinforcing the idea that the Law is essential for recognizing sin. Not that we are justified by the Law, but see what happens when a society rebels against it? You can try it out and we'll see who shines brighter in the Kingdom Big Boy.

Big Boy Johnson said:

Our peace in the New Covenant comes from Jesus, not from any sabbath days or any other observance in the old covenant.

Jesus said come unto me and I'll give you rest (Matthew 11:28-30) so abiding In Christ is the rest we are called to in the New Testament

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For those who keep the Commandments of God,
And have the Faith of Jesus.

Peaceful Sabbath.

Dave Watchman said:

Like I was saying, we're not justified by the Law, but we're still supposed to try to follow what God said.

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Did my post say we are justified by the Law of Moses?

Dave Watchman said:

Do not think that Christ came to do away with the Commandments. Do you think that because Jesus fulfilled the requirement of the Law on the Cross, we should go around continuing to sin? Heaven forbid!

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Did my post say we can live in sin?

No, I did say Jesus did way with the Old Covenant and started the New Covenant.

Did you not know we are now under the Law of Christ???

Hebrews 10:9 Then said he, Lo, I come to do thy will, O God. He taketh away the first, that he may establish the second.
(God said He would make a New Covenant - see Jeremiah 31:31-34)

Hebrews 8:6 But now hath Jesus obtained a more excellent ministry, by how much also Jesus is the mediator of a better covenant, which was established upon better promises.

And with the changing of the priesthood, God’s Word tells us there is also a change of the law.

Hebrews 7:12 For the priesthood being changed, there is made of necessity a change also of the law.

Any reason why we should not believe what the Lord says thru the writer of the Book of Hebrews???

Dave Watchman said:

For those who keep the Commandments of God,
And have the Faith of Jesus.

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For those following the Law of Christ.

Those following the Law of Moses are fallen from Grace which is what happened to the Galatians

Big Boy Johnson said:

OK, so prove you know who this person is and prove he's the actual anti-christ.

The reason you cannot prove this is because the anti-christ has not been revealed to the world yet.

All you have on this is guess work and your own opinion, no proof.

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The person who becomes the Antichrist makes his identity known by first becoming the little horn person. The little horn person will the leader of a panel of ten EU leaders. That's the first stage to knowing his identity.

Being the Antichrist is only one of five stages the person will go through on his path to the lake of fire.

(stage 1) the little horn
(stage 2) the prince that shall come
(stage 3) the Antichrist
(stage 4) the revealed man of sin
(stage 5) the beast-king

TLHKAJ said:

Daniel 9:27
And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.

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TLHKAJ said:

I believe the scripture indicates that the 7 year or one week covenant will be confirmed by a man.

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I believe the Scripture indicates that the 7 year, or one full week Covenant is just being confirmed by One who looks like a Son of Man.

TLHKAJ said:

Also, are we seeing sacrifices happen yet??

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The ones from verse 27 had to be from Revelation 8. You would have needed binoculars, or a telescope.

In the temple there were two services, one was the animal sacrifice at the brazen alter, the other was the "daily" at the alter of incense. That one has never stopped. Until I think just recently. In Daniel 12 the KJT inserted the word "sacrifice". It originally just read as the "daily'. Moses was told to make the temple exactly as the pattern he was shown on the mountain. It was a copy and pattern of the original Temple in Heaven.

So if guys like me and Dr. Christian are correct in the Daniel 9 timelines, verse 26 has to be speaking to a "week" which took place in the first century. While verse 27 is speaking to another whole "week", which is happening around about now.

The verse 26 is also distinguished from the end time "week" by occurring after the 62 weeks, while the end time "week" begins after the 7 weeks, (49 years). That is how it appears to be transpiring now.

So what are the sacrifices, and when did they stop? In the first century Jesus put an end to the sacrifices in the earthly temple when He was cut off, but not for Himself. That was when the curtain was rent. But the sacrifices had to continue in Heaven's Temple where Christ then became our Hight Priest.

Fast forward to verse 27. This is not half a week. This has to be a whole heptad of seven years where Jesus is confirming the Covenant with many in Heaven's Temple. When did He put an end to all the services in Heaven's Temple? The way I am counting the heptad is about 2 years earlier than Widener, so I have it at approximately half way through 2021, late summer or fall. Definitely before 2022.

It really is a type, or poetic way, of closing probation for the living just before Jesus comes. Where did we see the sacrifices end? In that scene in Revelation 8 when the censer is cast down:


The censer is used at the alter of incense. That's the "daily", also called the "continual". Same thing Zechariah was doing in the earthly temple when Gabriel came to tell him he would be a dad. When the censer is cast down, no more "daily". It's over. And end to all oblation or offerings.

I don't enjoy writing something which I know sounds radical to 90% of Evangelical Christians, but when you think you're sure you have the timing correct, even if I'm 2 years early, a bunch of these prophecies must be something other than what the traditional prophecy expositors had let us to believe.

I don't think Dr. Christian is correct in his starting point, but I know how he feels, what he's thinking, in the first few minutes of his video.. The prophetic time periods can drive the understanding of the prophecy. Price action makes for market commentary.


Peaceful Sabbath.

The best example for a generation is located in Genesis.

Genesis 15:13 (AMP) God said to Abram, “Know for sure that your descendants will be strangers [living temporarily] in a land (Egypt) that is not theirs, where they will be enslaved and oppressed for four hundred years.

Genesis 15:16 (AMP) “Then in the fourth generation your descendants shall return here [to Canaan, the land of promise], for the wickedness and guilt of the Amorites is not yet complete (finished).”

400 years, 4 Generations later. So 100 years = 1 Generation.

The Light said:

Switching gears, very, very, very, very few Christians understand that there are two raptures. The Church will be the first rapture, the grain harvest. The second rapture will be the fruit harvest. This rapture will be the 12 tribes across the earth. This is why there are 144,000 first fruits of the 12 tribes. Those acceptable first fruits redeemed from the earth guarantee a harvest.

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God will protect those that are His. Just as He has Promised and proven over and over again throughout scripture. He is not a liar, even though the devil will try and make people believe that. Have the faith of Noah, Lot, Shadrech, Daniel, the Israelites in Egypt and after they went into the wilderness, and His multitude of others. Hebrews 11 is a good refresher. Take a good hard look at Psalm 91 and the implications of that in action before ones eyes.

and since I know you have brought up mummy movies in the past. maybe take a look at the movie world war z and recall the hoards of zombies running past a young man as if he didn’t exist, they were blind to him.

or Phillip teleporting, or God confusing whole armies into attacking themselves. The book of acts isn’t a one time thing. Miracles of attestation were used by many, such as resurrecting people from the dead, casting out spirits, birds bringing Elijah food. God is in absolute control and has Absolute Sovereignty.

one things for sure is that His coming is just around the corner and the time to Believe on Him, Repent and turn to Him and His finished work on the cross cannot be understated enough. Some will go through the refiners fire, just as the letters to the church implicate. Build your foundation on Him alone.

Daniel 12:3 (AMP) “Those who are [spiritually] wise will shine brightly like the brightness of the expanse of heaven, and those who lead many to righteousness, [will shine] like the stars forever and ever.

Be ready, Gird up your loins. Amen

TLHKAJ said:

Sacrifices are taking place at the Temple Mount, and have been for a long time.... but not the Biblically described sacrifices of lambs, calves, etc.

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Just as important, they now have a trained and appointed priest, school of priests, and have recreated all of the methods and means to begin third temple sacrifices. Rabbi Baruch Kahane. They are ready to do this now. That ark of the covenant that was at marlago? Guess where it is now..after all you can’t have a legitimate sacrifice without the Mercy seat. The Ron Wyatt deception of finding the Ark of the Covenant in galgotha. All playing into the return and rebuilding of the temple and the reinstitution of sacrifices. They are ready. This is biblical prophecy and we are here to witness it.

Though, we know Messiah has already come, and they didn’t recognize Him. We also know how this ends. In His Glorious Second Coming Ushering in His 1000 year reign.

Dave Watchman said:

Hi The Marilyn.

It sounds funny saying Hi The Light.

Hi Marilyn.

I remember you on the forums for a long time, but unlike McKeras, or Doug, or ewq1938, I don't remember talking to you before.

I've seen people talking about the 360 day year before, but I don't totally compute with the use of it. This must be where people are going: 360 X 3.5 = 1260? Where it says: "time, times and half a time", I tend to look at that from above the sun and earth looking down at the 360 degree rotation of the earth traveling around the sun. One 360 degree rotation equals a year. Half a trip around the sun equals a half a year, a half a time. Like in Daniel 9 where it says 7 and 62 weeks. It was still 69 weeks of actual solar years from the Artaxerxes Decree in 457BC, to 27AD when Jesus read from the Isaiah scroll in Luke 4:17.

But whatever this is, none of it I can see as applicable to the video guy, or what the two Christians and I are counting. Which are Jubilee Cycles and counts of sevens. The "years" are still literal years of time which coincide with the two equinoxes each "time', or trip, around the sun.

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Dave Watchman said:

Like the video guy is saying, if we were able to count the heptads to forecast Messiah's first Visitation, we should be able to count the times leading to His Second Visitation.


I tend to think the video guy is correct, in theory. He's basically correct. But there's still a better way to zoom in with more accuracy to get a better pinpoint of the specific timing, rather than trying to count big 1000 year "days". He could even be right, but maybe these last two big 1000 year "days", are the "days" Jesus was talking about that needed to be shortened, lest no flesh be saved alive.

Some, like Dr. Christian Wideman are using 1537, others use 1536, and I am sticking with 1535 for now. The only variable in our schematic is the Julian/Gregorian change over in the middle ages. Since our formula kicks off in the middle ages prior to that, we could be debating a January, or April New Years Day.

On Saturday I always say Peaceful Sabbath, so half the people think I'm SDA. But I'm not. (Not that there's anything wrong with that). Never been near an SDA Church. I think they usually say: "Happy Sabbath. But I am sort of a partial historicist, if there is such a thing. So I think that the: "time, times and half a time", was the 1260 years during the Foxe Book Days when the Dragon chased the Woman through Medieval Europe.

Peaceful Sabbath.

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Hi Dave,

If Jesus was to come in 2030 to deliver Israel and bring vengeance upon the rebellious nations, then we would be in the trib now. God set Israel`s calendar according to their Feasts and Sabbaths. God sent Israel into exile because they didn`t keep His Sabbaths 70 times. Thus the 70 (Sabbath) years of exile for the land to have its rest. (2 Chron. 36: 21)

Then of course Israel hadn`t obeyed God for all the days in between so the next chastisement was 70 x 7.

Big Boy Johnson said:

OK, so prove you know who this person is and prove he's the actual anti-christ.

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HI BBJ,

May I come in here? I do have some thoughts on who this person could be.

THE PEACE NEGOTIATOR

The Middle East has again come into focus on the world stage. There seems no solution to the violent fightings and clashes of many groups. However the reality is that this kingdom is divided, and the Sunni and Shi-ites will not have peace until their long awaited `Messiah` figure comes and joins them together.

God`s word says that it would be a `divided kingdom` partly strong, and partly weak.

` Whereas you saw the feet and toes, partly of potter`s clay and partly of iron, the kingdom shall be divided; ........the kingdom shall be partly strong and partly fragile.` (Dan. 2: 41 & 42)

The leader of this Federation is described in great detail in God`s word. He is a royal person, with strong features; he is quite deceitful with cunning; he comes in peaceably and seizes power by intrigue.

`...a king (royal person) shall arise, having fierce features, who understands sinister schemes.....Through his cunning he shall cause deceit to prosper under his hand...`(Dan. 8: 23 - 25)

` ...he shall come in peaceably, and seize the kingdom by intrigue.` (11: 21)

There is a person of that description who is even now seeking to negotiate peace with the different groups. His name is Ali Hatem Al-Suleiman. He is one of the most prominent leaders of the Sunni Awakening.

In 2006 Ali Hatem entered a strategic alliance with US forces, (against ISIS) which, in combination with the surge in US troops that began in 2007, succeeded in re-establishing a modicum of security in Iraq.

Since then though, the Shi-ite Iraq Government have excluded the Sunni from the police, army and jobs. Thus there is still unrest in Iraq. Ali Hatem desires stability for Iraq through Political means and not through fighting.

He was brought up in cosmopolitan Bagdad and has often spoken publicly of the need for tolerance. He is a crown Prince with ties to royal families across the Arab Gulf and the elite of neighbouring Jordan. His tribe, the Dulaim, is one of the largest tribes in Iraq and is a powerful social, political and economic force. Note Babylon is in its region.

He has a talent for speeches and his title of crown Prince inspire respect and loyalty. He travels to Qatar and the United Arab Emirates to rally Gulf Arabs to his cause.

Someone to watch!

Marilyn C said:

THE PEACE NEGOTIATOR

The Middle East has again come into focus on the world stage. There seems no solution to the violent fightings and clashes of many groups. However the reality is that this kingdom is divided, and the Sunni and Shi-ites will not have peace until their long awaited `Messiah` figure comes and joins them together.

God`s word says that it would be a `divided kingdom` partly strong, and partly weak.

` Whereas you saw the feet and toes, partly of potter`s clay and partly of iron, the kingdom shall be divided; ........the kingdom shall be partly strong and partly fragile.` (Dan. 2: 41 & 42)

The leader of this Federation is described in great detail in God`s word. He is a royal person, with strong features; he is quite deceitful with cunning; he comes in peaceably and seizes power by intrigue.

`...a king (royal person) shall arise, having fierce features, who understands sinister schemes.....Through his cunning he shall cause deceit to prosper under his hand...`(Dan. 8: 23 - 25)

` ...he shall come in peaceably, and seize the kingdom by intrigue.` (11: 21)

There is a person of that description who is even now seeking to negotiate peace with the different groups. His name is Ali Hatem Al-Suleiman. He is one of the most prominent leaders of the Sunni Awakening.

In 2006 Ali Hatem entered a strategic alliance with US forces, (against ISIS) which, in combination with the surge in US troops that began in 2007, succeeded in re-establishing a modicum of security in Iraq.

Since then though, the Shi-ite Iraq Government have excluded the Sunni from the police, army and jobs. Thus there is still unrest in Iraq. Ali Hatem desires stability for Iraq through Political means and not through fighting.

He was brought up in cosmopolitan Bagdad and has often spoken publicly of the need for tolerance. He is a crown Prince with ties to royal families across the Arab Gulf and the elite of neighbouring Jordan. His tribe, the Dulaim, is one of the largest tribes in Iraq and is a powerful social, political and economic force. Note Babylon is in its region.

He has a talent for speeches and his title of crown Prince inspire respect and loyalty. He travels to Qatar and the United Arab Emirates to rally Gulf Arabs to his cause.

Someone to watch!

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Hi Marilyn,

In Daniel 8:9 the little horn person (who will eventually become the Antichrist) comes into the middle east toward Israel will a strong army does so from north and west of Israel. Which indicates that he will come from the EU.

Daniel 8:9 And out of one of them came forth a little horn, which waxed exceeding great, toward the south, and toward the east, and toward the pleasant land.

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Whether Ali Hatem Al-Suleiman will be perceived to be the Mahdi by Muslims, I don't know. Their perceived Mahdi might be the Assyrian person of Micah 5:5-6, part of the Gog/Magog attack.

But he is not the Antichrist person - who must be a Jew - that the Jews, for a while, will think is their promised king of Israel messiah.

Douggg said:

The person who becomes the Antichrist makes his identity known by first becoming the little horn person. The little horn person will the leader of a panel of ten EU leaders. That's the first stage to knowing his identity.

Being the Antichrist is only one of five stages the person will go through on his path to the lake of fire.

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Yeah well the 7 years starts when the anti-christ is revealed to the world

And many of the ministries that follow all this end times stuff don't agree that the anti-christ will come out of Europe so we'll have to wait and see how that all pans out. Many of these guys think it'll be a follower of islam

Europe is very weak right now financially and militarily so if he comes from Europe it would be anytime soon.
Your graphic will have to wait until the future gets here so we can see if it's true or not.

If it's not that makes you a false prophet proving you aren't hearing from the Lord so it would be better to say you "think" this is how it will all play out since much of this stuff is only being revealed by the Lord as things progress.

Marilyn C said:

May I come in here?

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I'm no authority over anything so yes you and anybody else can say whatever they wanna say.

Yes, I've heard some of the end times ministries guys say they think the anti-christ will be a follower of islam

Whoever it is we know it'll be someone who is wildly accepted so we know it's not Trump or obama and I doubt very seriously all the islam people will be willing to follow some dude from Europe

Douggg said:

Hi Marilyn,

In Daniel 8:9 the little horn person (who will eventually become the Antichrist) comes into the middle east toward Israel will a strong army does so from north and west of Israel. Which indicates that he will come from the EU.

Daniel 8:9 And out of one of them came forth a little horn, which waxed exceeding great, toward the south, and toward the east, and toward the pleasant land.

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Whether Ali Hatem Al-Suleiman will be perceived to be the Mahdi by Muslims, I don't know. Their perceived Mahdi might be the Assyrian person of Micah 5:5-6, part of the Gog/Magog attack.

But he is not the Antichrist person - who must be a Jew - that the Jews, for a while, will think is their promised king of Israel messiah.

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God`s word says - `towards the south, towards the EAST, and towards the glorious land.` (Dan. 8: 9)

And that would easily be from Iraq.

The A/C cannot be a Jew for the final GENTLIE Global Government leader is a GENTILE. Remember, the Times of the Gentiles.

`And Jerusalem will be trampled by the GENTILES until the times of the GENTILES are fulfilled.` (Luke 21: 24)

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The A/C cannot be a Jew for the final GENTLIE Global Government leader is a GENTILE. Remember, the Times of the Gentiles.

`And Jerusalem will be trampled by the GENTILES until the times of the GENTILES are fulfilled.` (Luke 21: 24)

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I think I've heard some of those end times ministries guy make this same point.

Marilyn C said:

God`s word says - `towards the south, towards the EAST, and towards the glorious land.` (Dan. 8: 9)

And that would easily be from Iraq.

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towards the south, towards the east, is just a biblical way of saying southeast.

Iraq is east of Israel (the pleasant land of Daniel 8:9). So Iraq is not in the correct geographical position.

Marilyn C said:

The A/C cannot be a Jew for the final GENTLIE Global Government leader is a GENTILE. Remember, the Times of the Gentiles.

`And Jerusalem will be trampled by the GENTILES until the times of the GENTILES are fulfilled.` (Luke 21: 24)

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There will not be a global government, but the kingdom of the ten kings under the leadership of the beast king. In Revelation 17:17, the ten kings give their kingdom over to the beast to be king of it.

The ten kings and little horn person come out of the fourth kingdom (the Roman Empire) manifested in the end times, Daniel 7:23-25. i.e. out of the EU. The EEC, the European Economic Community, the predecessor to the EU, was founded by the Treaty of Rome in 1957.

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The Antichrist person must be a Jew, just as Christ was a Jew.

The prefix "Anti" can mean instead of or against.... or both instead of and against.....as will be in the case of the Antichrist.

The Antichrist will be instead of and against the true Christ, Jesus, the rightful king of Israel messiah.

That the Jews were looking for the king of Israel messiah at the time of the first century would have been because of the Daniel 9:25 prophecy about the messiah's coming after 69 weeks (of years).

And Christ meaning messiah is in John 4:25 The woman saith unto him, I know that Messias cometh, which is called Christ: when he is come, he will tell us all things.

John 12:13 Took branches of palm trees, and went forth to meet him, and cried, Hosanna: Blessed is the King of Israel that cometh in the name of the Lord.

John 5:43 I am come in my Father's name, and ye receive me not: if another shall come in his own name, him ye will receive.

Mark 15:32 Let Christ the King of Israel descend now from the cross, that we may see and believe. And they that were crucified with him reviled him.

Big Boy Johnson said:

Yeah well the 7 years starts when the anti-christ is revealed to the world

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The 7 years start when the Antichrist confirms the Mt. Sinai covenant for the 7 year period Moses stipulated in Deuteronomy 31:9-13.

Big Boy Johnson said:

Europe is very weak right now financially and militarily so if he comes from Europe it would be anytime soon.
Your graphic will have to wait until the future gets here so we can see if it's true or not.

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What is your basis for claiming the EU to be weak financially and militarily ?