Messiah 2030

[Spiritual Israelite]

The generation that sees the fig tree sprout forth will not pass away until all is fulfilled. Nobody is being dishonest this.

You and Douggg are making up a new definition for the word generation that doesn't exist. That's very dishonest. You should be ashamed of yourselves.

 

[The Light]

No, Gog/Magog attack on Israel in Ezekiel 39 is close at hand. The 7 years following the attack in Ezekiel 39:9 are the same 7 years of Daniel 9:27.

At the end of the 7 years, the feast in Ezekiel 39:17-20 is the same feast of Revelation 19:17-18. Read those two passages.

Yeah, I've seen this before several times. I am going to have to restudy this as I don't remember the conclusion. Thanks for bringing this to my attention.

 

[The Light]

You and Douggg are making up a new definition for the word generation that doesn't exist. That's very dishonest. You should be ashamed of yourselves.

Are you kidding? The generation that sees the fig tree sprout forth will not pass away until all these things come to pass.

What is unclear about that? You can decide what you think a generation is.............it doesn't matter. Whether it's 10 years, 40 years or whatever. As you said the Word is talking the length of a persons life. So before this generation passes away, all these things in Matthew 24 come to pass............

AND THEY FLY AWAY.

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

Are you kidding? The generation that sees the fig tree sprout forth will not pass away until all these things come to pass.

What is unclear about that?

Are you just playing dumb here? How are you missing the point after I've made it several times? I have repeatedly said that the word generation does not mean the average human life span. You are basing your belief that "this generation" in Matthew 24:34 is 80 years because of what is says in Psalm 90:10, but you are completely misapplying that verse because that verse has nothing to do with the duration of a generation.

 

[The Light]

Are you just playing dumb here? How are you missing the point after I've made it several times? I have repeatedly said that the word generation does not mean the average human life span. You are basing your belief that "this generation" in Matthew 24:34 is 80 years because of what is says in Psalm 90:10, but you are completely misapplying that verse because that verse has nothing to do with the duration of a generation.

It has to do with years of strength being 80.

It has to do with generation that see the fig sprout forth will not pass away until all is fulfilled in Matthew 24

Psalm 90
13 Return, O Lord, how long? and let it repent thee concerning thy servants.

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

It has to do with years of strength being 80.

It has to do with generation that see the fig sprout forth will not pass away until all is fulfilled in Matthew 24

Psalm 90
13 Return, O Lord, how long? and let it repent thee concerning thy servants.

Psalm 90:10 is about the average human life span and not the length of a generation. A generation is never equated to the average human life span. Generally, the average human life span is 70 years, but it can be up to 80 years "if our strength endures".

Psalm 90:10 Our days may come to seventy years, or eighty, if our strength endures; yet the best of them are but trouble and sorrow, for they quickly pass, and we fly away.

Your doctrine is based entirely on taking scripture out of context.

 

[The Light]

Psalm 90:10 is about the average human life span and not the length of a generation. A generation is never equated to the average human life span. Generally, the average human life span is 70 years, but it can be up to 80 years "if our strength endures".

Psalm 90:10 Our days may come to seventy years, or eighty, if our strength endures; yet the best of them are but trouble and sorrow, for they quickly pass, and we fly away.

Your doctrine is based entirely on taking scripture out of context.

What am I taking out of context.

FACT. This generation that sees the fig tree sprout forth will not pass away until all these come to pass.

What does that mean?

 

[covenantee]

What am I taking out of context.

FACT. This generation that sees the fig tree sprout forth will not pass away until all these come to pass.

What does that mean?

Luke 21
29 And he spake to them a parable; Behold the fig tree, and all the trees;

If the fig tree is the nation of Israel, then all the trees are obviously all the nations.

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

What am I taking out of context.

I have to assume at this point that you're just playing games. I have said several times now that you are misapplying Psalm 90:10 to Matthew 24:34. Psalm 90:10 is not about the duration of a generation. So, there is no relation between those verses whatsoever. You cannot use Psalm 90:10 as evidence that "this generation" in Matthew 24:34 lasts for 80 years. That's total nonsense. Tell me what you don't understand about what I'm saying.

FACT. This generation that sees the fig tree sprout forth will not pass away until all these come to pass.

What does that mean?

That's not what Jesus is saying in Matthew 24:34.

Matthew 24:32 “Now learn this lesson from the fig tree: As soon as its twigs get tender and its leaves come out, you know that summer is near. 33 Even so, when you see all these things, you know that it is near, right at the door. 34 Truly I tell you, this generation will certainly not pass away until all these things have happened.

What Jesus did in verses 32 and 33 is compare how you know summer is near when a fig tree's leaves start coming out to how we know that His return is near when we "see all these things" happening. That's it. He said nothing about the generation seeing the fig tree sprout forth. That's not what "all these things" are that He said they would see that would indicate His coming is near. He's talking about the generation that would see things like an increase in false Christs and false prophets and an increase in apostasy and wickedness and such. When those things are happening then you know His coming is near and I think we are already starting to see those things happen.

 

[Big Boy Johnson]

Matthew 23
33 Ye serpents, ye generation of vipers, how can ye escape the damnation of hell?

John 8
44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

And of course those working to prevent people from getting born again (including the Jews that they hate so very much) will have their part in the lake of fire right along side those they despise so much

Just like we see with the prodigal son, the Father still loves the Jews and continually desires for them to come home and will rejoice when they do.

The Jew hater racists are like the older brother that is jealous with self righteousness thinking they are better then everyone else but they are actually the dregs of society with their racism and hatred.

Russia's happy. They are a seller of oil, and they have to sell way under the market.

China's not going to be too happy. They will be buying more Russian oil.

Meh, Russia and China share a border so they can do business together and not have to worry about US santions so it's a win win for both of them come to think of it.

China just won't be happy on waiting on Russia to ramp up enough production to meet their needs, but I'd imagine Pootin is already working on that so he can earn more money selling oil to support fighting the nazis in Ukraine

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

And of course those working to prevent people from getting born again (including the Jews that they hate so very much) will have their part in the lake of fire right along side those they despise so much

Who is doing that?

Just like we see with the prodigal son, the Father still loves the Jews and continually desires for them to come home and will rejoice when they do.

About 3,000 Jews were saved on the day of Pentecost alone and a good number of them have been saved since then in the past 2,000 years or so. Did you forget about them? God loves everyone and wants everyone to be saved, but He is also not a respecter of persons and loves everyone equally and accepts everyone who believes the same regardless of their nationality.

Acts 10:34 Then Peter opened his mouth, and said, Of a truth I perceive that God is no respecter of persons: 35 But in every nation he that feareth him, and worketh righteousness, is accepted with him.

 

[Big Boy Johnson]

Who is doing that?

Those that are racist and who have such hatred for the Jews.

Christians are supposed to be trying to win them to the Lord, but the racist Jews haters aren't real Christians either.

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

Those that are racist and who have such hatred for the Jews.

I'm asking who on this forum is doing that.

Christians are supposed to be trying to win them to the Lord, but the racist Jews haters aren't real Christians either.

I agree that anyone who is hating Jews aren't real Christians because we are called to love everyone, including even our enemies. But, are you talking about anyone here on this forum doing that? If so, are you sure that they actually hate Jews?

 

[covenantee]

And of course those working to prevent people from getting born again (including the Jews that they hate so very much) will have their part in the lake of fire right along side those they despise so much

Have you informed Jesus that He was preventing those Jews from getting born again?