Yeah I know exactly what you were trying to say without super man (but thanks I think supermans better than batman), and Im sorry but I dont understand how you can take a scripture like this and put it in to that kind of context, weighed up especially with what the rest of what the Bible teaches.lukethreesix said:I'm not back to my Bible yet so I'll get to those verses later...but I want to say that 1Tim's "especially" does not mean exclusively. Be lievers are especially saved. Kinda like Superman loves Lois Lane right? When a building is about to fall on everybody he especially saves Lois Lane, but will ultimately save everyone else. Lois will be saved first (blessed are those in the first resurrection) but he will not only save her. She, however, will enjoy a special, intimate relationship with him, returning with him to his ice castle and sharing all his knowledge and secrets with her......I'm out of time again, but get back later. Hopefully this Hollywood example can help? (I know, Hollywood movies make bad theology, just trying to get you to see the picture) I mean really, is superman a better savior than Jesus? I think not!
It really makes no logical sense at all.
Earlier I even tried to back up your claim, by looking at those chapters you listed to see where you might be getting this idea, but Im sorry its just not there and its not backed up anywhere else.
I honestly think your either only seeing what you want to see or someone has done you a real mischief by endorsing it too you.
This theology can be easliy disproved in one verse, littlelone hundreds the Bible provides.
Im not being mean, I am honestly surprised I am even having this conversation.
But on he other hand I can see why maybe people dont want to believe in eternal punishment. I too have loved ones I worry about who dont know Christ and I pray for them often. But the Bible teaches us plainly that not all will be saved, there's really no getting around it except by changing the Bible or tearing out pages.