Pictures of Christ 2 returns...
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Not two ways. The arrival of Jesus occurs in the clouds, with the resurrection and rapture happening at that time. Rev 19 is after those events with what happens after He descends down from the clouds with everyone. It's all the same day.
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Spiritual Israelite
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Nonsense. Each picture tells part of the big picture of His one and only future coming. Separating them into two events make no sense. Do you think verse 10 in the following passage is a separate event from verses 7 to 9?
2 Thessalonians 1:7 and to give you who are troubled rest with us when the Lord Jesus is revealed from heaven with His mighty angels, 8 in flaming fire taking vengeance on those who do not know God, and on those who do not obey the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ. 9 These shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord and from the glory of His power, 10 when He comes, in that Day, to be glorified in His saints and to be admired among all those who believe, because our testimony among you was believed.
What is portrayed in both of your pictures fall within what is described in the passage above and Paul was clear that it all will happen on the same day when Jesus returns. This can be seen in 1 Thessalonians 4:14-5:4 as well.
Spiritual Israelite
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That depends on how you define the term "event". If you refer to the event of the second coming (return) of Jesus Christ then they are both part of the same event that will happen on the same day.
jeffweeder
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Took the words right out of my mouth again.
2Thess 1 is a more complete picture of what happens to everyone else when the Lord comes to glorify us in 1Thess 4.
That's an excellent passage to make the point. The OP needs to get the AI to generate 2 images for that passage as well, then argue in the same manner he is arguing per these other 2 images. Otherwise the OP is just cherry picking.
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I look at 1 Thess 4:16 below as "The Last Day" resurrection of all (The Dead In Christ Shall Rise First)
1 Thessalonians 4:16KJV
16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:
Paul clearly taught that when Jesus returns the resurrection of the dead takes place, (Then Cometh The End) its that simple (The End) not a 1,000 year kingdom on this earth as many "Falsely" claim
1 Corinthians 15:21-24KJV
21 For since by man came death, by man came also the resurrection of the dead.
22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.
23 But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming.
24 Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power.
The scripture above is in perfect agreement with Jesus being revealed in fire and brimstone as seen below (Then Cometh The End) as all the unsaved wicked are destroyed at the Lord's return
(Destroyed Them All)
Luke 17:29-30KJV
29 But the same day that Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven, and destroyed them all.
30 Even thus shall it be in the day when the Son of man is revealed.
The resurrection of "All" is seen below and the wicked are judged to eternal damnation, this is when the "Final Judgement" takes place (The End)
John 5:28-29KJV
28 Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice,
29 And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation.
Jesus clearly taught that the resurrection of "All" takes place on "The Last Day" this is in perfect agreement with the scripture above
John 6:39-40KJV
39 And this is the Father's will which hath sent me, that of all which he hath given me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up again at the last day.
40 And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day.
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