(TallMan;65569)
Well, when it says "Adam knew Eve", it means had sexual relations with, the clear implication, to me at least, it that Cain was the offspring of this union.We know that Cain was " of that wicked one, and slew his brother" (1 John 3:12) for Satan was a murderer from the beginning, so I would say that the thought / evil desire came from Satan. Jesus referred to word as seed in the parable of the sower.Going forward we find a godly seed who believed in God and called upon him, and another lot who boasted in themselves and did evil.A person's works show who their father is.
Hi TallMan,I agree with you on this. The Parable of Wheat and Tares, (Matthew, chapter 13) is a PARABLE. Parables are stories using figurative metaphor to convey a message. We are not to take them at full literal face value, but for what they "symbolize." The "children of the Wicked One" is figure of speech for those who FOLLOW the ways of Satan. Just as "the children of God" is figure of speech, for those who FOLLOW God or walk in the Spirit of God.If WE are NOT the product of God mating with a human woman then why would we believe that Cain is the product of Eve mating with Satan? You see, there is no logic in this.I posted a while back why I don't believe Cain was the child of Satan and Eve. It clearly states in Genesis "Adam KNEW his wife and she conceived".God is not stupid. I think God would have known if Eve had sexual relations with "Nacash", the Serpent". It most certainly would have been mentioned in the book of Genesis if that were so.The other point is what God said to Cain. God asked why Cain was angry and depressed. Then God said "don't you know that if you do well you will be blessed, and if you don't do well, sin is at the door?"If Cain was the offspring of Satan, would God have given Cain the option of "being good" or "doing right"? NO, of course not. He would have said, "get behind me Satan!"Adam and Eve brought "evil" into the world through their deed (disobedience to God). Not only did they disobey God, but they did not take responsibility for it. Eve blamed the Serpent for beguiling her, and Adam blamed God for giving him "the woman". Before they ate of the Tree of Knowledge of GOOD and EVIL, they knew not what evil was. It was this partaking of the figurative fruit of the tree, that brought evil into the world. The Serpent, Nacash, was only the "charmer or enchanter". He was "sneaky and underhanded", the most "subtile" of all the beasts of the field".Eve desired to be "as gods", knowing both good and evil as the Serpent lied to her. Satan also lied to her when he said, "she would not die". Men/women are "evil in deed, not breed". We are ALL "evil" by nature, but we, who follow God, CHOOSE to do good. Free will.As the Apostle Paul quoted from Isaiah, "there is none righteous, no not one", and, "our righteousness is as filthy rags."It is evil MEN and WOMEN who bring evil and darkness to the earth.To suggest that people are the literal offspring of Cain is to suggest there is no free will to choose between good and evil.Why were the people destroyed in the Great Flood? God didn't say because Satan mated with Eve and they bore devils. What did God say? Because the imaginations of their hearts was only evil continually. They only thought to do evil day and day out, except Noah.Kim
Well, when it says "Adam knew Eve", it means had sexual relations with, the clear implication, to me at least, it that Cain was the offspring of this union.We know that Cain was " of that wicked one, and slew his brother" (1 John 3:12) for Satan was a murderer from the beginning, so I would say that the thought / evil desire came from Satan. Jesus referred to word as seed in the parable of the sower.Going forward we find a godly seed who believed in God and called upon him, and another lot who boasted in themselves and did evil.A person's works show who their father is.
Hi TallMan,I agree with you on this. The Parable of Wheat and Tares, (Matthew, chapter 13) is a PARABLE. Parables are stories using figurative metaphor to convey a message. We are not to take them at full literal face value, but for what they "symbolize." The "children of the Wicked One" is figure of speech for those who FOLLOW the ways of Satan. Just as "the children of God" is figure of speech, for those who FOLLOW God or walk in the Spirit of God.If WE are NOT the product of God mating with a human woman then why would we believe that Cain is the product of Eve mating with Satan? You see, there is no logic in this.I posted a while back why I don't believe Cain was the child of Satan and Eve. It clearly states in Genesis "Adam KNEW his wife and she conceived".God is not stupid. I think God would have known if Eve had sexual relations with "Nacash", the Serpent". It most certainly would have been mentioned in the book of Genesis if that were so.The other point is what God said to Cain. God asked why Cain was angry and depressed. Then God said "don't you know that if you do well you will be blessed, and if you don't do well, sin is at the door?"If Cain was the offspring of Satan, would God have given Cain the option of "being good" or "doing right"? NO, of course not. He would have said, "get behind me Satan!"Adam and Eve brought "evil" into the world through their deed (disobedience to God). Not only did they disobey God, but they did not take responsibility for it. Eve blamed the Serpent for beguiling her, and Adam blamed God for giving him "the woman". Before they ate of the Tree of Knowledge of GOOD and EVIL, they knew not what evil was. It was this partaking of the figurative fruit of the tree, that brought evil into the world. The Serpent, Nacash, was only the "charmer or enchanter". He was "sneaky and underhanded", the most "subtile" of all the beasts of the field".Eve desired to be "as gods", knowing both good and evil as the Serpent lied to her. Satan also lied to her when he said, "she would not die". Men/women are "evil in deed, not breed". We are ALL "evil" by nature, but we, who follow God, CHOOSE to do good. Free will.As the Apostle Paul quoted from Isaiah, "there is none righteous, no not one", and, "our righteousness is as filthy rags."It is evil MEN and WOMEN who bring evil and darkness to the earth.To suggest that people are the literal offspring of Cain is to suggest there is no free will to choose between good and evil.Why were the people destroyed in the Great Flood? God didn't say because Satan mated with Eve and they bore devils. What did God say? Because the imaginations of their hearts was only evil continually. They only thought to do evil day and day out, except Noah.Kim