What about those who are not part of the "most," have they got the right tree to mark their scent/territory on? Woof! Woof!
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What about those who are not part of the "most," have they got the right tree to mark their scent/territory on? Woof! Woof!
Anyone denying the Trinity is ignoring MANY verses in Scripture!
2 simple examples:
--- Several NT verses say Jesus is EQUAL to Father God.
Of course, this leaves out the Third Person (Manifestation).
--- I have 20 NT verses, all of which mention all
Three Members of the Holy Trinity. Really, WOW!
Additionally, since God is omnipresent (everywhere),
it shouldn't bother anyone that He has chosen to
represent Himself as 3 Persons (Manifestations).
Hope this helps someone.
2 simple examples:
--- Several NT verses say Jesus is EQUAL to Father God.
Of course, this leaves out the Third Person (Manifestation).
--- I have 20 NT verses, all of which mention all
Three Members of the Holy Trinity. Really, WOW!
Additionally, since God is omnipresent (everywhere),
it shouldn't bother anyone that He has chosen to
represent Himself as 3 Persons (Manifestations).
Hope this helps someone.
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Agree. What did Jesus say...
Forgive them for they know not what they do.
God Bless,
Taken
You mention the Bible and promote Creeds.
Good for you. I have chosen the source for help.
Read, study, ask the Lord daily.
Cover to Cover? Never. It is not to be read like a novel.
Length of time in deep reading, study, asking the Lord....Nearly 5 years straight for average 8 hours per day.
How about you Dave? Are you like the Average man who claims to be a Christian, and claims to attend a church, who dusts their Bible off, carries it to church once a week, but doesn't read it?
Or are you one of the rare Christians who actually crack open the Bible? Then read it like a novel, and understand it according to your Carnal Mind?
Just curious...
Glory to God.
CoreIssue
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Study? Who is saying to NOT study?
Is your Bible knowledge improved by "Studying" the Bible or man-made Creeds?
Your words Imply, you seek other mens "understanding" of Scripture.
Scripture teaches God is the Source for "understanding"...."according to Him".
Why aren't you asking Him?
Aren't you aware MANY men give "their understanding" "according to "their" Carnal Mind"?
Arent' you aware The Carnal Mind is Against God?
Therefore, you should be seeking God for "HIS UNDERSTANDING" of Scripture.
Glory to God.
Taken
Actually, in the kjv, there is Easter--the celebration of resurrection Sunday! Acts 12:4.
CoreIssue
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Another example of errors in KJV.
It is another example of catholic adoptions of pagan holidays. In this case, that of Ishtar.
The word is actually Passover.
Acts 12:4 New International Version (NIV)
4 After arresting him, he put him in prison, handing him over to be guarded by four squads of four soldiers each. Herod intended to bring him out for public trial after the Passover.
CoreIssue
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Mormons are extremely organized. They are taught before they go and they have an overseer while they're in the field.
I knew, somehow, that someone would bite.
The devil hates the idea of Easter as a holiday because the resurrection of Jesus Christ defeated him permanently. And Easter represents the resurrection of Jesus Christ to satan and to many people in the world.
The devil would love to annihilate the holiday from being in existence. But when the enemy comes in like a flood, the Spirit of the Lord will lift up a standard against him...the Holy Spirit led the translators of the kjv to preserve the holiday for many centuries to come by including the name of it in Acts 12:4 in the kjv.
My testimony about the kjv: when I got saved, I started with the kjv and did really well in my Christian walk for about a year. But someone suggested that I try a different translation and I did...in fact I tried many for an extended period of time...and my walk with Christ went downhill for the next 28 years...until I returned to the kjv...and now things are beginning to look up again concerning my walk with Christ.
Just my testimony...you can take it or leave it...but I happen to believe that I am overcoming the devil in somebody's life just by declaring it...Revelation 12:11.
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But to the topic that is prevalent throughout this thread...
God gives spiritual gifts to His children...and we can benefit from the spiritual gifts of other people, even when they operate through the writing down of the insights given to them through their spiritual gift...teaching, word of wisdom, and exhortation are gifts that can be transferred onto paper and the benefits of them made more permanent thereby.
As for the creeds, there is a relevance that I would give to them in that they were the end result of many years of debate...I happen to believe that if anyone having the Holy Spirit were involved in the debate, the one having the Holy Spirit would be victorious and their pov would prevail..because of Luke 21:15 as substantiated by Acts of the Apostles 6:10.
@Jane_Doe22, I understand that you are a Mormon...and whether you like it or not, that is defined as a cult by most Christian sources.
I would point out to you what it says in Romans 15:26-27, that ministering in carnal things means to make a contribution of monetary value...and that in 1 Corinthians 9:11 in context it is written that pastors were allowed to reap in carnal things because they sowed in spiritual things...
So the argument is won...and the victor is not the person who won the argument in the Book of Mormon...in fact the opposite pov is the victor!
Just a point to ponder...because if even one thing is wrong with Mormon doctrine then the whole thing needs to be called into question.
God gives spiritual gifts to His children...and we can benefit from the spiritual gifts of other people, even when they operate through the writing down of the insights given to them through their spiritual gift...teaching, word of wisdom, and exhortation are gifts that can be transferred onto paper and the benefits of them made more permanent thereby.
As for the creeds, there is a relevance that I would give to them in that they were the end result of many years of debate...I happen to believe that if anyone having the Holy Spirit were involved in the debate, the one having the Holy Spirit would be victorious and their pov would prevail..because of Luke 21:15 as substantiated by Acts of the Apostles 6:10.
@Jane_Doe22, I understand that you are a Mormon...and whether you like it or not, that is defined as a cult by most Christian sources.
I would point out to you what it says in Romans 15:26-27, that ministering in carnal things means to make a contribution of monetary value...and that in 1 Corinthians 9:11 in context it is written that pastors were allowed to reap in carnal things because they sowed in spiritual things...
So the argument is won...and the victor is not the person who won the argument in the Book of Mormon...in fact the opposite pov is the victor!
Just a point to ponder...because if even one thing is wrong with Mormon doctrine then the whole thing needs to be called into question.
It is the only example that is ever brought up anymore as far as I can tell.
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As for the OP question...I believe that Romans 4:8, Romans 8:38-39 ("nor things present nor things to come"), and Hebrews 9:12 handle it quite nicely.
CoreIssue
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David L, who wrote those creeds that you're so enamored with? Catholics or founders of Catholicism!
List of Christian creeds - Wikipedia
List of Christian creeds - Wikipedia
CoreIssue
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Here is a list:
What are the ERRORS in the King James Version Bible
As well, that claimed Textus-Receptus was a compilation of five manuscripts
Plus, such as NIV and NASB used manuscripts far older and more trustable.
Coming from a catholic background, the a KJV has many verses added and words changed to reflect catholic doctrine, such as Easter.
On top of that it is archaic English, which means we do not speak that today and many words definitions have changed in the English.
There's no good reason to use the King James version.
And note, it is a version, not a translation.
What is the Textus Receptus?
CoreIssue
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All I had was King James. When the NIV came out I listened to solid linguists and such as Dr. Walter Martin talk about it vs. the King James version.
I switched and will never go back to the King James version.
With all the issues with the King James version on accuracy, in example, it is a nonstarter.
On Easter, your argument does not change the fact it is founded in a pagan religion via Catholicism.
It affects sound doctrine. An example, the earth was not created shapeless as a King James Version says.
Oh yes there is...it is the only Bible that one can read that does what it does for my soul...making me strong in Him!
As I said, reading other Bible versions has caused my walk with Christ to go downhill fast...so I will stick with a Bible that makes me spiritually healthy!
CoreIssue
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CoreIssue
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No, I know because that's what the bible says
The Beginning
1 In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. 2 Now the earth was formless and empty, darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was hovering over the waters.
The KJV Old Testament Hebrew Lexicon
Strong's Number: 01961 Browse Lexicon
Original Word Word Origin
hyh a primitive root [compare (01933)]
Transliterated Word TDNT Entry
Hayah TWOT - 491
Phonetic Spelling Parts of Speech
haw-yaw Verb
Definition
- to be, become, come to pass, exist, happen, fall out
- (Qal)
- ----- 1a
- to happen, fall out, occur, take place, come about, come to pass 1a
- to come about, come to pass
- to come into being, become 1a
- to arise, appear, come 1a
- to become 1a
- to become 1a
- to become like 1a
- to be instituted, be established
- to be 1a
- to exist, be in existence 1a
- to abide, remain, continue (with word of place or time) 1a
- to stand, lie, be in, be at, be situated (with word of locality) 1a
- to accompany, be with
- (Niphal)
- to occur, come to pass, be done, be brought about
- to be done, be finished, be gone
- (Qal)
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