Certain young man fled naked ?

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farouk

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And there followed him a certain young man,.... Some think this was John, the beloved disciple, and the youngest of the disciples; others, that it was James, the brother of our Lord; but he does not seem to be any of the disciples of Christ, since he is manifestly distinguished from them, who all forsook him and fled: some have thought, that he was a young man of the house, where Christ and his disciples ate their passover; who had followed him to the garden, and still followed him, to see what would be the issue of things: but it seems most likely, that he was one that lived in an house in Gethsemane, or in or near the garden; who being awaked out of sleep with the noise of a band of soldiers, and others with them, leaped out of bed, and ran out in his shirt, and followed after them, to know what was the matter:

having a linen cloth cast about his naked body; which was either his shirt in which he lay, or one of the sheets, which he took and wrapped himself in, not staying to put on his clothes: though the word "Sindon", is used both by the Targumists d and Talmudists e for a linen garment; and sometimes even for the outer garment, to which the fringes were fastened f; and he might take up this in haste, and slip it on, without putting on any inner garment: the word "body", is not in the text, and the phrase επι γυμνου, may be rendered, "upon his nakedness"; and answers to ערות, in Ge 9:23 and Le 20:11 (refs2), and the meaning be, he had only a piece of linen wrapped about his middle, to cover his nakedness; and in this garb ran out, to see what was doing:

and the young men laid hold on him. The Roman soldiers, who were commonly so called: so David's soldiers are called "young men", that were with him, 1Sa 21:4; these attempted to lay hold on this young man, taking him to be a disciple of Christ, or one at least affected to him, and did take hold of his linen cloth. The Vulgate Latin, Syriac, Arabic, and Persic versions, leave out the words, "the young men". The design of Mark in relating this incident, is to show the rage and fury of these men; who were for sparing none that appeared to be or were thought to be the followers of Christ; so that the preservation of the disciples was entirely owing to the wonderful power of Christ.

-- John Gill
Dr Gill seems to have a sensible commentary on the passage there.

Do you like Dr Gill's commentaries?
 

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Well this has been interesting.
One thing for sure somebody had an interest in what was going to happened next. The others took off but he decide to stick around.

Does it say that Mark ever met Jesus ?

Well Peter was getting warm by the fire, so it must have been alittle cool in the late nite or the morning hour. They came to get Jesus carring lantern and torches.

So the young man either just woke up and went to see or he was poor.

Definitely another witness.

Humm !
 

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Well this has been interesting.
One thing for sure somebody had an interest in what was going to happened next. The others took off but he decide to stick around.

Does it say that Mark ever met Jesus ?

Well Peter was getting warm by the fire, so it must have been alittle cool in the late nite or the morning hour. They came to get Jesus carring lantern and torches.

So the young man either just woke up and went to see or he was poor.

Definitely another witness.

Humm !
His garment suggests he may have been of wealth:

And a certain young man followed with him, having a linen cloth cast about him, over his naked body: and they lay hold on him . St. Mark is the only evangelist who mentions this incident; and there seems good reason for supposing that he here describes what happened to himself. Such is the mode in which St. John refers to himself in his Gospel, and where there can be no doubt that he is speaking of himself. If the conclusion in an earlier part of this commentary be correct, that it was at the house to which John Mark belonged that our Lord celebrated the Passover, and from whence he went out to the Mount of Olives; what more probable than that Mark had been with him on that occasion, and had perhaps a presentiment that something was about to happen to him? What more likely than that the crowd who took Jesus may have passed by this house, and that Mark may have been roused from his bed (it was now a late hour) by the tumult. Having a linen cloth (sindona ) cast about his naked body. Thesindon was a fine linen cloth, indicating that he belonged to a family in good circumstances. It is an unusual word. In every other place of the New Testament where it is used it refers to the garment or shroud used to cover the bodies of the dead. The sindon is supposed to take its name from Sidon, where the particular kind of linen was manufactured of which the garment was made. It was a kind of light cloak frequently worn in hot weather.

-- The Pulpit Commentary
 

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I know Jesus had a robe(a covering) is there any mention of the disciples wearing robes, pre Pentecost?
What was Jesus physically wearing when he was dying on the cross? What reason have we to believe that he had any garment remaining more than what Adam and Eve had before they sewed together fig leaves for themselves. Adam and Eve were ashamed and tried to cover themselves. Jesus was allowed no such opportunity. Would those controlling the crucifixion have been ashamed on his behalf? And what shame did the soldiers have for him who according to scripture "...parted [his] garments among them, and upon [his] vesture did they cast lots" ?
 

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What was Jesus physically wearing when he was dying on the cross? What reason have we to believe that he had any garment remaining more than what Adam and Eve had before they sewed together fig leaves for themselves. Adam and Eve were ashamed and tried to cover themselves. Jesus was allowed no such opportunity. Would those controlling the crucifixion have been ashamed on his behalf? And what shame did the soldiers have for him who according to scripture "...parted [his] garments among them, and upon [his] vesture did they cast lots" ?
I’m glad to see your feeling better Amadeus.
 
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What was Jesus physically wearing when he was dying on the cross? What reason have we to believe that he had any garment remaining more than what Adam and Eve had before they sewed together fig leaves for themselves. Adam and Eve were ashamed and tried to cover themselves. Jesus was allowed no such opportunity. Would those controlling the crucifixion have been ashamed on his behalf? And what shame did the soldiers have for him who according to scripture "...parted [his] garments among them, and upon [his] vesture did they cast lots" ?

What I have read on the issue is that it was customary for the Romans to execute naked prisoners on a cross. An exception was made for Roman citizens who would not have been crucified anyway (crucifixion was reserved for non-Roman citizen criminals) but rather beheaded in a clothed state. A complicating factor was that nakedness was not permitted in Israel, so it is likely that, in order to satisfy religious sensitivities, loin cloths may have been permitted by the Roman authorities. The ribald near nakedness of Salome's dance in Herod's court would have raised eyebrows even in his corrupt "Helenized" circle. The Greco-Roman culture of that day was quite permissive about nudity.
 

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What I have read on the issue is that it was customary for the Romans to execute naked prisoners on a cross. An exception was made for Roman citizens who would not have been crucified anyway (crucifixion was reserved for non-Roman citizen criminals) but rather beheaded in a clothed state. A complicating factor was that nakedness was not permitted in Israel, so it is likely that, in order to satisfy religious sensitivities, loin cloths may have been permitted by the Roman authorities. The ribald near nakedness of Salome's dance in Herod's court would have raised eyebrows even in his corrupt "Helenized" circle. The Greco-Roman culture of that day was quite permissive about nudity.
While you may be correct, the scriptures do not clearly state that Jesus had any clothes at all while hanging on the cross. The only clothing mentioned went to the soldiers.
 
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OK this is when they came to get Jesus in the garden where he was praying .

Mark 14:50-52 (KJV)

50 And they all forsook him, and fled.
51 And there followed him a certain young man, having a linen cloth cast about his naked body; and the young men laid hold on him:
52 And he left the linen cloth, and fled from them naked.

Who is this young man

Judas Iscarot

and why was it important for it to be recorded for us to know ?

Because Judas was a follower of Jesus, then Left Jesus. Further information about Judas' future was revealed, and an example for future men, who follow Jesus, and then walk away, (called in the NT, having falling from faith).

Who told Mark about it because all the disciples except Judas fled.

Noone Told Mark, Mark was present.

All of the disciples were WITH Jesus at the Supper.
Judas Left and reported to the Romans where Jesus was.
Judas went to the Romans, then went to the garden, with the Romans and identified Jesus with a greeting kiss.
The Romans FLED, "taking" Jesus with them.

50 And they all forsook him, and fled.
(They are the Roman guards)
("Him" is Jesus)

51 And there followed him a certain young man, having a linen cloth cast about his naked body; and the young men laid hold on him:
(A certain young man, was Judas;
Followed "him"..."him" is Jesus)
His naked body..."his" is Judas)
Young men...."men" are Roman soldiers)
Hold on "him" ... "him" is Jesus)

52 And he left the linen cloth, and fled from them naked.
("he" is Judas who departed (fled) away from "them", (the Roman guards and Jesus)
("Naked" indicates Judas cast off his "linen cloth")
("Linen clothing" worn of Jesus' followers, is indicative of "Jesus' followers", trusting Jesus' teachings)
(When Judas cast off his "linen clothing", his nakedness was revealed.)
(Nakedness is indicative of a Mans Flesh Sin and SHAME).
(When Judas WAS following and trusting Jesus, it was Jesus' that was coving Judas' shame (flesh sin).
(When Judas STOPPED following and trusting Jesus, CASTING off his clothing, was a Verification, that Jesus was No Longer Covering Judas' shame, (flesh sin).

NT teaches, WHEN one is following and trusting Jesus' teachings....
They are "tasting" the power of the Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirits power to Cover their nakedness, their flesh, their sin.

If a man Walks Away from the Lord, so also does the Lords Power to COVER their sin, CEASE.

Further teaching reveals one who Continues Following, and Increases in Belief, so also does the Lords Power INCREASE the mans FAITH.

As FAITH is INCREASED, the man is being PREPARED, to MAKE A vow of COMMITMENT through Confession.

Once the man MAKES A Vow of Commitment through Confession....the Lords "COVERING" of the mans Flesh sin nakedness, becomes...
INTERNAL and PERMANENT.
Forever the mans SIN, Nakedness, Shame, becomes COVERED by the power (LIGHT) of the Holy Spirit,
AND
Forever NO MORE REMEMBERED BY GOD.

(The Sin, Nakedness, Shame....of the man IS called "DARKNESS".

The Power of the Lord is called..."LIGHT".

LIGHT "overpowers" Darkness.
Where there is LIGHT, Darkness CAN NOT EXIST".)

Well I guess this young man could have told them about what happened later ????

At one point...
Jesus; the 12 disciples; the Roman guards were all in the garden.
It didn't require any of them to be elbow to elbow to observe what all occurred and recollect an account of what they observed.

God Bless,
Taken