Jack Van Impe Challenging Pope Francis to Debate!!

BreadOfLife said:

No – the WORSHIPPING of them is what was forbidden.

Congratulations, though. Some of your fellow anti-Catholics are actually dumb enough say that it was the creation of images that was forbidden. Keep studying – you’ll get there, eventually . . .

By the way – can you show me ONE Catholic teaching that promotes praying TO a statue or image?? Since you claim that this is what we teach– this should be EASY for you.

Until then, consider yourself exposed . . .

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What did you think I meant by "bowing down" to them? Of course I meant "worshiping them". And your pathetic, child raping, Biblically illegitimate, papal Antichrist system has deliberately deleted the 2nd commandment so that papists like yourself can deceive innocent catholic faithful into believing that it's OK to bow down and pray to stone or wood images "which neither speak or hear or know".

BreadOfLife said:

This is perhaps one of the more asinine charges of yours – completely without ANY basis in fact.

There is an array of Liturgical colors and vestments worn by the clergy that are NOT red – and are based on feasts, solemnities and seasons. If you did your homework instead of embarrassing yourself - you would have known this . . .

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Dead Bread, let the record show that you failed to include with your reply a picture papal priests wearing "a ribband of blue" on the fringes of their garments "that they may remember the commandments of God".

Because papists only seem to care about making it up as they go and silencing "heretics" who expose their Satanic agenda.

BreadOfLife said:

the Pope doesn’t sit on a throne of gold.

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Why do you lie? Everyone knows it.

Then there's the Golden thrones the Pope sits upon as he gets lifted up high above the people's heads and carried about on.

The wealth of the Roman C. Church incalculable.

Phoneman777 said:

Look, Dead Bread, if you're going to claim one Divine promise for your fake papal priesthood, then why not claim them all? Just think of it! Catholics don't need to worry about death! Just claim God's promise to Ezekiel at the Valley of Dry Bones and voila!

(Of course, I'm exposing your absurdity by being absurd: the passage about God sprinkling us has nothing to do with "holy water". Y'all got that straight outta DAGON worship and you know it.)

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Ezekiel 26:25-27 is a prophecy about BAPTISM, Einstein.
When cross-referenced with the words of Christ in John 3:5 about Baptism - it makes perfect sense.

STUDY the Scriptures - don't just look at them . . .

Phoneman777 said:

It's a matter of history, Dead Bread. Only an imbecile will deny the million of dear Christian saints who were sentenced to death by papal authorities...why did your pope go on an apology tour if the papacy didn't KILL anyone?

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No - it's not a matter of history.
The Pope never apologized for "killing millions". The onus is on YOU to provide evidence of those inflated numbers.

The ACTUAL numbers of 500 years of Inquisitions is closer to 4000.
Heck, Henry VIII killed more than 15 times that many Catholics in merry old England alone . . .

tzcho2 said:

The wealth of the Roman C. Church incalculable.

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Hmmmmmmmm, yet another asinine anti-Catholic claim from tzcho2.
What a surprise . . .

Time for an education . . .

The Catholic Church is THE LARGEST charitable organization in the WORLD. Every day, the Catholic Church feeds, clothes, shelters, cares for and educates more people than any organization on the planet – even more than most countries. Whereas, these numbers may vary, charities run by the Church include:
- 5,305 hospitals including 1,694 in the Americas and 1,150 in Africa.

- 18,179 clinics including 5,762 in the Americas and 5,312 in Africa
3,884 in Asia.

- 17,223 homes for the elderly, the terminally ill and the handicapped –
most of them (8,021) in Europe and the Americas (5,650).

- 9,882 orphanages – a third of them in Asia.

- Countless homeless shelters and food banks.

Next time you feel the need to make a stupid remark - do your homework first.

Phoneman777 said:

Really? What about the "Assumption of Mary", "Marriage forbidden to the priesthood", "St. Joseph's altar", "prayers to the (patron) dead", "Mardi Gras", "Ash Wedneday", "Easter", "Christmas"....and the most blasphemous of all..."worship of the Sun god Satan by veneration of Sunday"???
(Well, we already know y'all admit that the change from Sabbath to Sunday is purely by Roman Catholic authority alone, so no need to answer that one LOL)

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Do your homework, Einstein . . .

- Mardi Gras isn't a "Catholic" celebration and is found nowhere in the Catechism.
- St. Joseph's Altar is an ITALIAN tradition that you're not likely to find in the Catechism, either.
- Easter and Christmas are Holy Days in commemoration of our LORD. birth and Resurrection.
- Ash Wednesday is a day of fasting and prayer - which the Scriptures repeatedly call for (Acts 13:3, 14:23).
- As for Sunday worship - you'll have to take that up with the Early Church of the New Testament, who chose to meet on the FIRST day of the weel (Sunday), which was referred to as The Lord's Day because of the Resurrection.

THIS is why Paul wrote:
Col. 2:16-17
Therefore do not let anyone judge you by what you eat or drink, or with regard to a religious festival, a New Moon celebration or a Sabbath day. These are a shadow of the things that were to come; the reality, however, is found in Christ.

So, don't blame ME because YOU don't know Christ . . .

tzcho2 said:

Then there's the Golden thrones the Pope sits upon as he gets lifted up high above the people's heads and carried about on.

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Soooo, you actually believe that these are solid gold chairs??

BreadOfLife said:

Hmmmmmmmm, yet another asinine anti-Catholic claim from tzcho2.
What a surprise . . .Time for an education . . .The Catholic Church is THE LARGEST charitable organization in the WORLD. Every day, the Catholic Church feeds, clothes, shelters, cares for and educates more people than any organization on the planet – even more than most countries. Whereas, these numbers may vary, charities run by the Church include:
- 5,305 hospitals including 1,694 in the Americas and 1,150 in Africa.- 18,179 clinics including 5,762 in the Americas and 5,312 in Africa 3,884 in Asia.- 17,223 homes for the elderly, the terminally ill and the handicapped –
most of them (8,021) in Europe and the Americas (5,650).- 9,882 orphanages – a third of them in Asia. - Countless homeless shelters and food banks.Next time you feel the need to make a stupid remark - do your homework first.

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That is nothing compared to what the RCC has, and as usual you pump out the disinformation & spin. You're information is untrustworthy and disingenuous- and that is putting it mildly.

BreadOfLife said:

Soooo, you actually believe that these are solid gold chairs??

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You are a dishonest man. You denied the gold throne and the decadence.

BreadOfLife said:

Ezekiel 26:25-27 is a prophecy about BAPTISM, Einstein.
When cross-referenced with the words of Christ in John 3:5 about Baptism - it makes perfect sense.

STUDY the Scriptures - don't just look at them . . .

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Look, all I'm saying is that if you're going to hijack a promise of God where He says He will cleanse His people by sprinkling them - which any fool recognizes is a spiritual sprinkling, not a literal - then what's stopping you from hijacking God's promise to make dry bones live again? Send your papal priests to the cemeteries and kill two birds with one stone: get those dead folks cleansed AND resurrected.

Or, just admit the ritual of papal priests sprinkling the faithful finds its origin in the worship of Dagon by his priests who sprinkled their faithful, and that the papacy dragged this pagan custom into the Christianity like so many other of papal rituals that are grounded in Satan worship.

Only Christ can cleanse, not some papal priest, not Mary, not the pope, and not the god of the papacy, Satan.

tzcho2 said:

Why do you lie? Everyone knows it.

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Because those that hate the truth are SUPERB liars. They lie when it's easier to tell the truth.

BreadOfLife said:

Do your homework, Einstein . . .

- Mardi Gras isn't a "Catholic" celebration and is found nowhere in the Catechism.
- St. Joseph's Altar is an ITALIAN tradition that you're not likely to find in the Catechism, either.
- Easter and Christmas are Holy Days in commemoration of our LORD. birth and Resurrection.
- Ash Wednesday is a day of fasting and prayer - which the Scriptures repeatedly call for (Acts 13:3, 14:23).
- As for Sunday worship - you'll have to take that up with the Early Church of the New Testament, who chose to meet on the FIRST day of the weel (Sunday), which was referred to as The Lord's Day because of the Resurrection.

THIS is why Paul wrote:
Col. 2:16-17
Therefore do not let anyone judge you by what you eat or drink, or with regard to a religious festival, a New Moon celebration or a Sabbath day. These are a shadow of the things that were to come; the reality, however, is found in Christ.

So, don't blame ME because YOU don't know Christ . . .

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Dead Bread, I don't care what the catechism says...if papists are practicing it, if the papacy condones it...if papal leadership is not denouncing it...its catholic religion.

Priests raping kids is not in the catechism either, but the news constantly breaks reports about that, while we hardly ever hear of mainline Protestant church leadership, right?

BreadOfLife said:

No - it's not a matter of history.
The Pope never apologized for "killing millions". The onus is on YOU to provide evidence of those inflated numbers.

The ACTUAL numbers of 500 years of Inquisitions is closer to 4000.
Heck, Henry VIII killed more than 15 times that many Catholics in merry old England alone . . .

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Dead Bread, I'll stop short of calling you a liar for claiming the papacy only killed 4,000 heretics. However, if after reading this post you continue to spread abroad such a ridiculous claim, you will be exposed as just that:

Over ONE HUNDRED THOUSAND "HERETICS" were slaughtered by direction of papal authorities on the night of St. Bartholomew's Massacre ALONE: