Jack Van Impe Challenging Pope Francis to Debate!!

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Sorry, but you are either woefully informed about accurate church history or are lying. The papacy was DIRECTLY involved in orchestrating the violence and you are spreading false misinformation and should be banned from this community.

Nothing to say about the pope commemorating the event by having that coin struck? The papacy is just one long history of rape, murder, child rape, child murder, and falsifying the truths of the Bible for the selfish benefit of papists and their god Satan. They don't call it the "Dark Ages" for nuthin.
And once again, my historically-bankrupt friend - you are pulling things out of your behind . . .

I just listed ALL of the things you falsified about your accusations in my last post.
YOU said is happened in "ONE night". HISTORY says it took several weeks.
YOU said there were "OVER 100,000" killed. HISTORY says 5-30 thousand.
YOU said that the "Church" killed those people. HISTORY says that it was MOB VIOLENCE.

Your nose is growing by the second . . .
 

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WRONG.

ALL of the statistics I presented are searchable and verifiable online.

You’re angry because it destroys your argument about the Church being“filthy rich” . . .
The papacy is the holder of priceless works of art, the largest holder of silver (still?), and yet the Pedophile in Chief dares to condemn Western Capitalists for our wealth and our walls. I simply cannot wait for the papacy to come to its end with all its blasphemous hypocrisy.
 

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"Protestant clergy" LOL "Clergy" LOL
How foolish of you to believe fake Protestant preachers who are only in it to exploit people and children are comparable to the papal filth that claim to be "creators of the Creator" LOL What a joke, Dead Bread.
Care to substantiate that LIE??
Show me the official Catholic teaching that says the Pope or ANYBODY else "created the Creator".

And what does this have to do with the fact that there are more Protestant Ministers molesting young children than Priests??
The statistics are there . . .
 

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And once again, my historically-bankrupt friend - you are pulling things out of your behind . . .

I just listed ALL of the things you falsified about your accusations in my last post.
YOU said is happened in "ONE night". HISTORY says it took several weeks.
YOU said there were "OVER 100,000" killed. HISTORY says 5-30 thousand.
YOU said that the "Church" killed those people. HISTORY says that it was MOB VIOLENCE.

Your nose is growing by the second . . .
You mean your fake papal "revisionist historians" and their lies about the past to hide their crimes? Papists are the most despicable liars on the planet, and cover up is their number one favorite past time. Just look at how the papal hierarchy has covered up all the crimes against all those innocent children...sad.
 

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The papacy is the holder of priceless works of art, the largest holder of silver (still?), and yet the Pedophile in Chief dares to condemn Western Capitalists for our wealth and our walls. I simply cannot wait for the papacy to come to its end with all its blasphemous hypocrisy.
The "priceless" works of art were teaching tools for the 90% of the population that was illiterate until the 19th century.
Being historically-bankrupt - you couldn't possibly know this.

So, WHO is going to buy all of these "priceless" treasures - and how long with that money last?
 
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You mean your fake papal "revisionist historians" and their lies about the past to hide their crimes? Papists are the most despicable liars on the planet, and cover up is their number one favorite past time. Just look at how the papal hierarchy has covered up all the crimes against all those innocent children...sad.
Just Google the "St. Josephs Day Massacre".
Heck - even a secular source like wikipedia doesn't agree with you.

Put down the Ellen G. White nonsense and read some ACTUAL history, my brain-washed friend . . .
 

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Care to substantiate that LIE??
Show me the official Catholic teaching that says the Pope or ANYBODY else "created the Creator".

And what does this have to do with the fact that there are more Protestant Ministers molesting young children than Priests??
The statistics are there . . .
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This is what we call "straight from the Whore -ses mouth, DB :) Now, let's see what the book says:

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So, Phoneman777 has irrefutably proven that the official position of the papacy is that the priest is the "creator of his Creator" when officiating over the false ritual called the eucharist.
 
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Just Google the "St. Josephs Day Massacre".
Heck - even a secular source like wikipedia doesn't agree with you.

Put down the Ellen G. White nonsense and read some ACTUAL history, my brain-washed friend . . .
St. Bartholomew's Day massacre speaks for itself. The papacy - which is the catholic church working in concert with the secular state - orchestrated the murder of over ONE HUNDRED THOUSAND innocent "heretics" for the crime of refusing to go along with the papacy's veneration of Satan through blasphemous rituals and teachings. It's a matter of history, Bereft of Life, and no lying papist can change that.
 

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This is what we call "straight from the Whore -ses mouth, DB :) Now, let's see what the book says:

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So, Phoneman777 has irrefutably proven that the official position of the papacy is that the priest is the "creator of his Creator" when officiating over the false ritual called the eucharist.
Wrong, Phoneyman - you did NO such thing.

First of all - this isn't an official teaching of the Church.,
Secondly, Alphonsus Liguori is using poetic language to illustrate the confection of the Eucharist.

Did you actually R*E*A*D what he wrote??
THIS is what he said - and he said it very carefully:

"Thus the priest may, in a certain manner, be called the creator of his Creator, since saying the words of consecration, he creates, as it were, Jesus in the Sacrament, by giving Him a Sacramental existence, and produces Him as a victim to be offered to the eternal Father."


So, YOUR charge is completely fraudulent - as usual . . .
 

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St. Bartholomew's Day massacre speaks for itself. The papacy - which is the catholic church working in concert with the secular state - orchestrated the murder of over ONE HUNDRED THOUSAND innocent "heretics" for the crime of refusing to go along with the papacy's veneration of Satan through blasphemous rituals and teachings. It's a matter of history, Bereft of Life, and no lying papist can change that.
NOT according to actual history.
ONLY according to your skewed and perverted SDA nonsense.
 

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Wrong, Phoneyman - you did NO such thing.

First of all - this isn't an official teaching of the Church.,
Secondly, Alphonsus Liguori is using poetic language to illustrate the confection of the Eucharist.

Did you actually R*E*A*D what he wrote??
THIS is what he said - and he said it very carefully:

"Thus the priest may, in a certain manner, be called the creator of his Creator, since saying the words of consecration, he creates, as it were, Jesus in the Sacrament, by giving Him a Sacramental existence, and produces Him as a victim to be offered to the eternal Father."


So, YOUR charge is completely fraudulent - as usual . . .
Nobody's buying your bulldookey, DB. Your false church teaches that the priest is "the creator of his Creator" and anyone who insists on believing that nonsense after Protestant Biblical truth has come will be in serious trouble on Judgment Day
 

Phoneman777

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NOT according to actual history.
ONLY according to your skewed and perverted SDA nonsense.
We SDAs have the Bible to back our beliefs, while you papists have only Marian apparitions, false miracles of the devil, and brainwashing tactics that would make Charles Manson do the Electric Boogaloo.
 

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The RCC glorifies herself and tells it's congregation to give money, attend Mass so they get to heaven--that's why they have gotten so rich.
The Church you are so angry with doesn't exist. You're mad at a cardboard caricature. Vatican wealth is a myth. Art treasures draw tourist dollars which is needed for administration costs for running a church of 1.2 billion people. If you were to invest in an orphanage or free third world hospital you would lose money.
 
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You mean your fake papal "revisionist historians" and their lies about the past to hide their crimes? Papists are the most despicable liars on the planet, and cover up is their number one favorite past time. Just look at how the papal hierarchy has covered up all the crimes against all those innocent children...sad.
The question is Why did the RCC not to mention the all other Church denominations hide the crimes of all them children, it reflects that they are of Satan and their in no question about that at all, no one could be so stupid to run and hide such filth, they are condemned, you just do not do that to children and as Jesus Christ said that he himself would come against anyone who does such to Children.

All who do such like that to children are going to Hell, there is no excuse at all for anyone raping anyone like that, non at all, it's just beyond belief that anyone would do such a thing or even think of such a thing, it would be better for such a one to go put a mill stone around there neck and toss it into the sea.

Its beyond a joke ! this caper has been known for years and everything has been against anyone who stood up to this Satanic mob of bastards, not to mention the way they have controlled the issue, it stinks ! the Satanist are so cunning that they are still leading people astray. but the public nowadays are much more under the thumb than ever due to the Churches not standing up to the Satanic workings cultural Marxist Political Correctness, Socialism and Communism, they are all dead ducks in the water. not to mention just totally worthless as to Christ Jesus and they do not know him, for if they did they would not just sit on their arse as the world is led into Hellfire.

A true Christian does not just sit on their arse on issues concerning God.

Just look at that football player called Israel Folau who is the best football player by far down here and he got sacked for saying this. he did his Christian duty to warn people of going to Hell and where is the Church to be found standing with him pointing out that it is a fact. no they run and hide but the poor bloke got attacked with total malice getting sacked for saying what Christians have been saying openly for 2000 years, but now you are a made out to be the monster and it's because Satan is now loose, what does one expect with Socialism as it's a work of Satan.
 
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This is what we call "straight from the Whore -ses mouth, DB :) Now, let's see what the book says:

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So, Phoneman777 has irrefutably proven that the official position of the papacy is that the priest is the "creator of his Creator" when officiating over the false ritual called the eucharist.
Gosh.
How far back do you want to go?
How many believed what Augustine wrote?
He had his own thoughts...most of which I don't even agree with.
Plus, which part of his life are we talking about?
The beginning, the middle, the end.
His views changed so much it's difficult to keep up.
He was very respected by the church because of Charisma and because he was able to hold back a lot of heresy that was ongoing at his time.

But I don't know any other early theologian that even agreed with his ideas before he came along...and they were quickly forgotten.

He spoke of predestination, for instance.
The CC does not believe in the predestination Augustine taught and which Calvin clung on to.

The creator of the Creator. Pleeeeze.
No priest I know, personally, believes he is doing this.
 

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The papacy is the holder of priceless works of art, the largest holder of silver (still?), and yet the Pedophile in Chief dares to condemn Western Capitalists for our wealth and our walls. I simply cannot wait for the papacy to come to its end with all its blasphemous hypocrisy.
Know anybody that would like to buy some of them?
Make a list.

Oh. And the CC happens to be the church that most helps the needy.
You could check out the statistics...this is correct.
 
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Nobody's buying your bulldookey, DB. Your false church teaches that the priest is "the creator of his Creator" and anyone who insists on believing that nonsense after Protestant Biblical truth has come will be in serious trouble on Judgment Day
In your complete ignorance, you are clinging desperately to your false accusations again.

The fact is, my clueless friend, that this is NOT a teaching of the Church, but one man’s poetic description of the Sacrament of the Eucharist – as I already explained to you.

Do your homework, dude . . .
 

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We SDAs have the Bible to back our beliefs, while you papists have only Marian apparitions, false miracles of the devil, and brainwashing tactics that would make Charles Manson do the Electric Boogaloo.
But we’re not talking about your beliefs, are we??

We’re talking about HISTORY – and you have that all screwed up because you’ve been brainwashed by Disciples of Ellen G. White.

If we were just talking about your bizarre SDA doctrines, that that would be one thing – but YOU’VE made some pretty asinine and historically-bankrupt claims that simply don’t pass the smell test . . .
 

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The question is Why did the RCC not to mention the all other Church denominations hide the crimes of all them children, it reflects that they are of Satan and their in no question about that at all, no one could be so stupid to run and hide such filth, they are condemned, you just do not do that to children and as Jesus Christ said that he himself would come against anyone who does such to Children.

All who do such like that to children are going to Hell, there is no excuse at all for anyone raping anyone like that, non at all, it's just beyond belief that anyone would do such a thing or even think of such a thing, it would be better for such a one to go put a mill stone around there neck and toss it into the sea.

Its beyond a joke ! this caper has been known for years and everything has been against anyone who stood up to this Satanic mob of bastards, not to mention the way they have controlled the issue, it stinks ! the Satanist are so cunning that they are still leading people astray. but the public nowadays are much more under the thumb than ever due to the Churches not standing up to the Satanic workings cultural Marxist Political Correctness, Socialism and Communism, they are all dead ducks in the water. not to mention just totally worthless as to Christ Jesus and they do not know him, for if they did they would not just sit on their arse as the world is led into Hellfire.

A true Christian does not just sit on their arse on issues concerning God.

Just look at that football player called Israel Folau who is the best football player by far down here and he got sacked for saying this. he did his Christian duty to warn people of going to Hell and where is the Church to be found standing with him pointing out that it is a fact. no they run and hide but the poor bloke got attacked with total malice getting sacked for saying what Christians have been saying openly for 2000 years, but now you are a made out to be the monster and it's because Satan is now loose, what does one expect with Socialism as it's a work of Satan.
Pedophiles ought to be put to death no matter who they are.
 

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In your complete ignorance, you are clinging desperately to your false accusations again.

The fact is, my clueless friend, that this is NOT a teaching of the Church, but one man’s poetic description of the Sacrament of the Eucharist – as I already explained to you.

Do your homework, dude . . .
Yes, what papists call a "poetic description", the Bible calls blasphemy in the highest order.

Every time we expose the papacy as Antichrist by the very words of papists, you Dead Bread claim "that's not an official teaching"...which begs the question: what is it about the papacy that leads millions of papists to publish what you claim the church doesn't teach? Could it be...

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