Hi, I was wondering if any Christians here could help me in defining the truth about this so called doctrine the serpents seed which seems to be a controversial minority teaching for some Christians as opposed to the majority that reject it. The bible clearly states in Genesis 3: 2, 6 The woman said to the serpent, "We may eat fruit from the trees in the garden, But God did say, 'you must not eat fruit from the tree that is in the middle of the Garden, and you must not touch it, or you will die. When the woman saw that the fruit of the tree was good for food and pleasing To the eye, and also desirable for gaining wisdom, she took some and ate it. She also gave some to her husband, who was with her, and he ate it. Now understanding this scripture correctly it seems logical to me that what is said to be forbidden is the taking of the fruit from the tree of knowledge of good and evil. But when Eve took of the fruit and gave some to Adam they obviously broke the command, as a result GOD cursed them to die thus sin entered the world hence all offspring thus generation after generation. Cain murdering Able was purely out of anger from his sinful nature passed on from his parents, also temptation of Satan around him in deceiving him to do Evil. So how can it possibly be suggested in any of this that Satan had sexual intercourse with Eve, thus Cain was Satans offspring. Satan was in spirit form or an entity, GOD had denied him a physical body he had no hardware how could he possibly enter her. Surly this is a false doctrine, it must be, even the Catholics don't believe in it...
Serpents Seed True Or False?
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The Serpents seed is Just as True as The womens seed..lest you dont believe God.. gen 3: 14And the LORD God said unto the serpent, Because thou hast done this, thou art cursed above all cattle, and above every beast of the field; upon thy belly shalt thou go, and dust shalt thou eat all the days of thy life: 15And I will put enmity between thee [Serpent] and the woman, and between thy[Serpent] seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel. Either you believe God or Not..if He states the Serpent has a seed, then He does..
LOL I love it that is the quickest most straight to the point reply on this I have ever heard Good Job and right on
This is the same argument that Sounds something like this that started in Genesis Chapter six. Did angels (Bad ones) have sex with women and create a corrupted race?Because Cristina, savedbygrace57, and music world know some world I'll save the scriptures.The Book of Jude sort of lets on that this did happen. "Going after strange flesh." The account in Genesis also seems to lead to this conclusion. The problem is you can prove and disprove both points. It really depends on who you think Jude as talking about, and what the term sons of God mean in Genesis chapter 6:4It could be argued that sons of God referred to angels. We don't have an account of humans being sons of God until latter. Now spiritual law says the each seed MUST produce after it's own kind. This puts in Jeopardy the serpent seed theory, unless you assume Satan came in human form with all the parts working. Angels are recorded as appearing as Human but they are not human.Now the problem with the Sex with Eve issue (Serpent Seed) God said Satan would have seed. So we need to deal with that.The sin was DO NOT EAT THE FRUIT OF THAT TREE. We do have the Term Forbidden fruit, and we know what that means. We would have to spiritualize this passage not to mean a real tree as there were two. The tree of life and the tree of knowledge of calamity. (Hebrew for good and evil) The problem comes because Eve never got the blame for the sin. The scripture said she was deceived. 1Ti 2:14Adam was the one that did wrong. It was his choice that caused the fall of mankind. He obeyed Satan and disobeyed God. Who you obey you become a servant to. Rom 6:16Also the cause of death on the planet was created by a Man, not Eve. Rom 5:17Because of that disobedience against God, and obeying Satan, Adam and Eve became mortal and their spirits corrupted. They knew evil which is what the tree gave them the knowledge of. Just having the devils baby would have only effected Eve. Adam also ate that fruit and nothing was mentioned about Satan "Laying" With Eve but the whole conversation was about eating something which the Hebrew language supports. The word Fruit was used though as offspring, but Eve did not eat a baby. What she ate was off a tree.Adam and Eve had sex (Knew his wife) and the product of that was first Cain then Able. Gen 4:1Now what happened to that Serpent baby? There was none.Cain had a child called Enoch that pleased God so much, God took him. If Cain was the serpent seed then most likely that would not be possible, as the Child would have had the same evil as His father. Adam sinned and obeyed Satan, Making Satan his god. Because of that the very nature of death was imparted to Adam and Satan got a hold of the Planet which God told Adam to guard. Satan now was the god of this World, though the act of Adams obedience to him. That curse and nature of death reigned until Jesus. Satan was the father of these people as everyone born carried his nature. The nature of fallen man. Jesus told the Jews that the devil was their father. Not because Satan has sex with a bunch of women and was their father, but because they acted just like Him. John 8:44. They were the devils seed through the transgression of one man. That man was Adam.So, to believe in the serpent theory where actual sex with the devil was concerned would mean that we would have to change the Word and believe it does not say what it really says. There is no scripture to support this theory.Jesus Is Lord
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No, far from that..Adam and Eve had sex and produced cain and cain was still of the serpents offspring..gen 4: 1And Adam knew Eve his wife; and she conceived, and bare Cain, and said, I have gotten a man from the LORD. The serpents seed is introduced into the world by the normal agency of sex between a Man and Women, its Just God has determined who is of the seed of the serpent nd who is not..in this case cain was and abel was not..
Well, Cain being of that Wicked one does not mean he was a direct physical offspring of Satan.If you would read everything I posted you will see that Adam and Eve had sex to conceive Cain. That shoots the whole theory in the foot, among other things. WE would need more scripture to believe that. just like the Sex with angels in Gen 6. We have some good evidence that it happened, but there is nothing conclusive on both sides of the fence, though it would be easier to prove than the Eve and Satan theory.Yes, John called Cain that Wicked one. Jesus called The Jews sons of the Devil. It was a response to the way they were conducting themselves, not who their biological father was.Jesus Is Lord.
mike says:
Thats correct, though his offspring, not in a personal reproductive way....
It doesnt matter how they conducted themselves, some of satans seed conduct themselves in a very honorable manner before men.. The devil was not those in jn 8 44 biological father, but their father non the less, because he had a seed given him, thats clear by Gods declarative statement in the beginning.. Gen 3: 14And the LORD God said unto the serpent, Because thou hast done this, thou art cursed above all cattle, and above every beast of the field; upon thy belly shalt thou go, and dust shalt thou eat all the days of thy life: 15And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel. Satan, the Serpent has a seed because God says so..and his seed enters into this world by the normal sexual relations of a man and women as cain did: gen 4: 1And Adam knew Eve his wife; and she conceived, and bare Cain, and said, I have gotten a man from the LORD. And cain was of the devil 1 jn 3: 12Not as Cain, who was of that wicked one, and slew his brother The word of is the greek prep ek which means out of..cain was out of the devils offspring, however God utiilzed the normalcy of human sexual relations to bring him forth into the world, and so it is with all of his offspring until the end of time..
You sure give Satan a lot of power over God's creation?Who is God? or is God just out of the picture because Satan has all the power?
savedbygrace57;71675]mike says: Thats correct said:
Excellent lines mike, this is exactly my understanding too, I only wish other Christians could see the light in what you've said here..
Thats wrong, even the children of God act wickedly..but that doesnt make them children of the devil.. The children of the devil act very relgious, temperate, respectful and so forth, and they are not children of God..
Maybe so saved by grace maybe so, not to be hatefull or anything but you owe me one for defending your character in that early thread 
musicworld thank you. gumby: No I did not miss your point. There is a serpent seed doctrine out there that is Wrong. With all due respect I thought you were on that doctrine. You are correct in that Cain was the first murder, but not the first to disobey God. If you had been more clear at the start then what your point was would not have gotten mixed with the serpent seed doctrine. savedbygrace57False, he became satans captive..but satan is never the God of the elect.. always looking to prove someone wrong. He obeyed Satan and Satan became his master as Adam was now under the curse and the earth became cursed. So Satan was not "GOD" creator of Adam in that sense, but Adam followed after Satan and you can not have two masters.Also the Word God was derived from Pagen sources. It's German for invoked one and could mean a number of gods. I did not capitalize the "g" refering that Adam followed after Satan as god of this world. Pay attention next time.Jesus Is Lord
Brother Mike, and all,You will never know the end without knowing the beginning. And you don't know the beginning.
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