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Basically, it is those preachers who never get spoken evil of that are generally the false teachers.

But sometimes even false teachers are called out on for being false.

Paul called out Hymenaeus and Alexander and a few others for their shenanigans, by name.
 
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Slow learner????? Jesus says====Do not judge, or you will be judged. 2For with the same judgment you pronounce, you will be judged; and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you.…Matthew 7:1-2

How dare you threaten God's People with doing what God would have them to do, which is to test everything to see whether it's from God or not! Just because a minister wears a minister's suit, and speaks with a Southern accent and emphasizes his words does not mean he is speaking the whole truth. (I speak of American Evangelical ministers.)

There are always errors in every one of us, including in ministers, that need to be regularly dealt with and treated. Anybody who doesn't know this is too immature to minister well. We all have pride, but God help us to find ministers with humility who go to the cross every day and pray, "Thy will be done."

I've mentioned before that Jesus wants us to watch, so as not to be deceived. He wants us to govern all things by the authority of His word. To judge a man of God as evil is not good, as you say. But to judge him as mistaken is a good thing, when he is found to not be ministering in accord with God's word. Hopefully we will all keep growing, and will never grow weary in well doing.

Some ministers are even worthy of ridicule, if they are really going over the top, doubling down, and refusing to recognize the abuses their heaping upon people. If, for example, Jesse and others are boasting in their jet planes, and in the luxury God is giving them, I think they deserve the insults they receive. It will make them pay attention to how bad their witness is in this world of greed.
 
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Satan hates the very Words of Jesus too!!! and you??====Jesus says====Do not judge, or you will be judged. 2For with the same judgment you pronounce, you will be judged; and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you.…Matthew 7:1-2

Yes, when you point the finger at others as being worthy of judgment, you will have 3 fingers pointing back at yourself. So don't judge those who are just trying to discern the errors in these ministers, who add to the word of God their own Faith Teaching! And if you were diligent enough to judge these things for yourself, you might either defend or reject them. But you don't. You're just a follower.

This goes quite a ways back for me. As I said, I was big on Faith Teaching, and held to it, supported it, and spoke it. However, a crisis came into my life, and I had to admit, it doesn't work. Faith works, but it was being misrepresented by those in the Faith Teaching business.

I was down in S. CA when Walter Martin began to question this teaching. He was an expert on the American cults, and began to see problems in Faith Teaching, in comparison to Bible Teaching. When he was ultimately invited onto TBN, he was apparently disinvited for speaking his mind.

We never saw him there again that I know of. And Paul Crouch began to use the words "heresy hunters" for those who questioned his Faith Teaching, as I saw it. I never thought good Christians should resolve differences by name calling and by avoiding biblical scrutiny.

And that is the problem, brother. I bring up legitimate questions of a biblical nature. And you are doing the same thing as Paul Crouch, name calling and avoiding scrutiny, just doubling down. Bad idea!
 
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Jesse shares revelation from God’s Word
If you are promoting Jesse DuPlantis, you are on the wrong track.

"Local preacher, Jesse Duplantis, has recently asked of his followers to give toward a new private jet – the Falcon 7X with the price point of 54 million dollars. Although Jesse already has his own private jet and has upgraded several times before now, he states that he needs this newer jet because it is able to travel the world without making a stop."

Jesus Would Not Have Purchased a Private Jet: The Lie of Jesse Duplantis and the Prosperity Gospel
 

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Yea, error has a way of building a cocoon around itself so that it can neither be questioned nor discovered. Don't judge, lest you discover the truth! Nice plan! ;)
I will take my leave now brother. I discern that you are a very competent and well trained teacher of the word. Welcome to CyB. Blessings and Peace!
 

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The Bible says lots of things, including fools don't take correction, and there is wisdom in a multitude of counselors. You should beware if you don't question things. Jesus said that even the elect can be deceived. He would have us "keep watch," because people act as if they have a handle on God's Kingdom, and yet that Kingdom has not come yet.

Your faith is not an activity of the Kingdom that has already come. It is a limited ability to carry out God's plan *before* the Kingdom comes. Do you understand the difference?

I choose to believe the eternal living inspired Word of God and ignore the silly evil ideas and opinions of little men!! And you??
 

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Anytime you don't have balance, you get into trouble. Your flesh will guarantee that!

So, ask anything in my name is balanced by: you ask and don't receive because you ask with wrong motives.
 
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Anytime you don't have balance, you get into trouble. Your flesh will guarantee that!

So, ask anything in my name is balanced by: you ask and don't receive because you ask with wrong motives.


Romans 2:1
You therefore have no excuse, you who pass judgment on another. For on whatever grounds you judge the other, you are condemning yourself, because you who pass judgment do the same things.

Romans 14:10
Why, then, do you judge your brother? Or why do you belittle your brother? For we will all stand before God's judgment seat.

Romans 14:13
Therefore let us stop judging one another. Instead, make up your mind not to put any stumbling block or obstacle in your brother's way.

1 Corinthians 4:5
Therefore judge nothing before the appointed time; wait until the Lord comes. He will bring to light what is hidden in darkness and will expose the motives of men's hearts. At that time each will receive his praise from God.

James 4:11
Brothers, do not slander one another. Anyone who speaks against his brother or judges him speaks against the Law and judges it. And if you judge the Law, you are not a practitioner of the Law, but a judge of it.
 

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I don't understand your reply. What have I said that you disagree with?
 

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Anytime you don't have balance, you get into trouble. Your flesh will guarantee that!

So, ask anything in my name is balanced by: you ask and don't receive because you ask with wrong motives.

Anytime you don't have Truth, you get into trouble. Satan will guarantee that. God's Word is all truth= the eternal, living,inspired Truth.
 

GISMYS_7

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Again!!! Jesus says judge not lest you be judged!

Romans 2:1
You therefore have no excuse, you who pass judgment on another. For on whatever grounds you judge the other, you are condemning yourself, because you who pass judgment do the same things.

Romans 14:10
Why, then, do you judge your brother? Or why do you belittle your brother? For we will all stand before God's judgment seat.

Romans 14:13
Therefore let us stop judging one another. Instead, make up your mind not to put any stumbling block or obstacle in your brother's way.

1 Corinthians 4:5
Therefore judge nothing before the appointed time; wait until the Lord comes. He will bring to light what is hidden in darkness and will expose the motives of men's hearts. At that time each will receive his praise from God.
 

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That he is, and many more just like him. There seems to be a huge lack of discernment in the Body.
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...and shamefully so. If this guy isn't as transparent as glass, I don't know who is?
 
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