The Tail Of The Dragon!

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whirlwind

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Revelation 12:4-5 And his tail drew the third part of the stars of heaven, and did cast them to the earth: and the dragon stood before the woman which was ready to be delivered, for to devour her child as soon as it was born. And she brought forth a man child, who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron: and her child was caught up unto God and to His throne.

The woman is away from the "face of the serpent" [Rev.12:14] but not the "tail of the dragon." Who is the tail?

Isaiah 9:15 The ancient and honourable, he is the head; and the prophet that teacheth lies, he is the tail.​

His tail, the false prophet(s), stand before the woman....preaching lies and deception while pretending to be of Christ. She and her children are of the Father and are destined to dwell in heaven but the dragon casts them down and instead causes some to dwell on earth (they are not caught up to God as they should be). The man child is actually men children (no gender) and they are the firstfruits...also referred to as the very elect.

The man child(ren) are "caught up unto God and to His throne," while living in flesh bodies. They walk the earth but spiritually "dwell in heaven." They are translated as was Enoch....

Colossians 1:13 Who hath delivered us from the power of darkness, and hath translated us into the kingdom of His dear Son:

Hebrews 11:5 By faith Enoch was translated that he should not see death; and was not found, because God had translated him: for before his translation he had this testimony, that he pleased God.
The man child(ren) are spiritually translated, "caught up unto His throne." Jesus dwells in them and they give His testimony to others. Satan wishes to devour them.
 

lloydnook

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Revelation 12:4-5 And his tail drew the third part of the stars of heaven, and did cast them to the earth: and the dragon stood before the woman which was ready to be delivered, for to devour her child as soon as it was born. And she brought forth a man child, who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron: and her child was caught up unto God and to His throne.

The woman is away from the "face of the serpent" [Rev.12:14] but not the "tail of the dragon." Who is the tail?

Isaiah 9:15 The ancient and honourable, he is the head; and the prophet that teacheth lies, he is the tail.​

His tail, the false prophet(s), stand before the woman....preaching lies and deception while pretending to be of Christ. She and her children are of the Father and are destined to dwell in heaven but the dragon casts them down and instead causes some to dwell on earth (they are not caught up to God as they should be). The man child is actually men children (no gender) and they are the firstfruits...also referred to as the very elect.

The man child(ren) are "caught up unto God and to His throne," while living in flesh bodies. They walk the earth but spiritually "dwell in heaven." They are translated as was Enoch....

Colossians 1:13 Who hath delivered us from the power of darkness, and hath translated us into the kingdom of His dear Son:

Hebrews 11:5 By faith Enoch was translated that he should not see death; and was not found, because God had translated him: for before his translation he had this testimony, that he pleased God.
The man child(ren) are spiritually translated, "caught up unto His throne." Jesus dwells in them and they give His testimony to others. Satan wishes to devour them.

V.4

And his tail dragged the (a)third part of the stars of heaven, and cast them to the earth: and the dragon (b)is standing before the woman which is about to bring forth, in order to eat up her (c)child as soon as it was born.

(a) Satan, since his original fall, has persuaded to his cause many angelic creation, which are numbered in Scripture (see V.9) as ⅓ of all the angels of heaven, which have done and are doing his bidding. The exact timing of his fall was certainly when Satan as a son (created) of God rebelled against his Creator, and claimed equality, (Ezk. 28:12-19.) Satan is a well kept secret. Although known of from Scripture he is not taken seriously by people, and is even regarded as a sort of joke, or figure of Halloween imagery. Almost all of the world's misery is attributable to him, even though Almighty God usually gets the blame. Almost everybody at some time has blamed The Almighty for some misfortune, which in fact should be laid at the door of Satan, or human fallen nature, or both. There is no more powerful entity on earth at the present time than Satan, (except for the Holy Spirit.) Our Lord Himself acknowledged Satan as the prince of this world (John 12:31,) (John 14:30,) (John 16:11.) The Apostle Paul writing under the influence of the Holy Spirit, called Satan, "the prince of the power of the air," (Eph. 2:2.) These and many other Bible references show the power that is at present Satan's, and people will find to their cost that he is real, and behind all of the evil events, trends and control of humans that Paul wrote about so vividly and accurately to Timothy 2000 years ago, (2 Tim. 3.)

(B) The A.V. says "stood;" but the correction "is standing," and will continue to do so until he is broken "by no human hand," (Dan. 8:25) and then bound in the bottomless pit.

(c) "Child;" this is Jesus the Christ (anointed,) who is at present at the Right Hand of the Majesty, in Heaven, awaiting the time that His enemies are made His footstool. There are a number of people who feel that this child is the "new Israel," and will be caught up to God and His throne for protection. In the view of the writer this cannot be, as Satan must almost annihilate the Jews before Christ will return to save the remnant of them. If the Almighty intervened at this stage, and took Israel out of the Tribulation, Satan would claim the victor, as the events prophesied in Scripture would have not been allowed to run their full course on earth, which is his (Satan's) sphere of rule. The help given to the suffering Jews will be via Christ's Spirit as described in Chp. 11:4; and elsewhere. Also if that were to happen, unregenerate humans would be in the most Sacred Place (The Throne,) which clearly would not accord with the main message (the Fall, and Regeneration work of Christ Jesus) of all of Scripture. Only Christ can be with Jehovah God on His throne after He became the first fruit in resurrection. Only He has the sanctity to be with the Father. On the contrary the Jews who are at the present still "lo-ammi," (not my people) are yet to see, accept and mourn Christ whom they pierced (Zech. 12:10,) only then will their cleansing begin, and together with the righteous resurrected Jews, form the reborn, new, nation of Israel, the eventual Jeshurun, (the ideal Israel.) There is a curious verse (Isa. 66:7) which seems to say that a child (nation) will be born before the normal travail of labour. However; the "before" (Str. 2962) is probably mistranslated in the A.V., and should read "delayed," "suspended," "not yet," "none-occurrence." The meaning being that the nation being brought to being is suspended! That prophecy foreshadows the rejection of Christ by Israel, and therefore their own rejected ("lo-ammi,") state for 2000 years. After the Zech. 12:10 experience, the rest of Isa. 66 applies and is wonderful for Israel and other peoples of God. That a nation is being brought forth cannot be disputed, as in the following verse (Isa. 66.8,) Zion is travailed! Verses 7 & 8 therefore seem to contradict, except for the above possible explanation, and a filling full of the prophecy. It is supremely significant, that as soon as Antichrist breaks his peace agreement with Israel, (2nd ½ of 70th week Dan.) chapter 11 of Rev. and its events start, which correspond with Isa. 66:8, "for as soon as Zion travaileth, she brought forth her sons (children.)" This is the birth of the new nation of Israel. The one that will have such earthly blessing in the 1000 years of Jehovah / Christ's reign on earth, whose borders will be as the promise made to Abraham by Jehovah (Gen. 12:2-3,) (Gen. 15:18,) (Jer. 32:37-42,) (Jer. 33:14-16,) (Jer. 33:25-26,) (Ezk. 11:17-20,) (Ezk. 34,) (Ezk. 47:15-21,) and many other references throughout Scripture. The birth of this nation is one of the great events in the plan of Jehovah Zebaoth on earth, and will be greeted with great joy in heaven and earth, as it corresponds with the praise of the heavenly hosts for the vanquishing of the evil one on earth (Rev. 19:1,) which was prophesied in Psalm 104:35.

It is important to differentiate the above nation, at the beginning of the Millennial Reign of Jesus Christ Messiah; from that of the "overcomers!" Both these entities have different destinations in the Plan of Jehovah Zebaoth!
 

Benoni

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The Book of Revelation is not a literal Book, it is spiritual. No where does it say John was being literal or partially literal, but it does say John was in spirit on the Lord's day. Revelation is the most spiritual Book in the Bible and is symbolic not literal. If you believe it is literal or particially literal show me using God's Word where this is written?

V.4

And his tail dragged the (a)third part of the stars of heaven, and cast them to the earth: and the dragon (b)is standing before the woman which is about to bring forth, in order to eat up her (c)child as soon as it was born.

(a) Satan, since his original fall, has persuaded to his cause many angelic creation, which are numbered in Scripture (see V.9) as ⅓ of all the angels of heaven, which have done and are doing his bidding. The exact timing of his fall was certainly when Satan as a son (created) of God rebelled against his Creator, and claimed equality, (Ezk. 28:12-19.) Satan is a well kept secret. Although known of from Scripture he is not taken seriously by people, and is even regarded as a sort of joke, or figure of Halloween imagery. Almost all of the world's misery is attributable to him, even though Almighty God usually gets the blame. Almost everybody at some time has blamed The Almighty for some misfortune, which in fact should be laid at the door of Satan, or human fallen nature, or both. There is no more powerful entity on earth at the present time than Satan, (except for the Holy Spirit.) Our Lord Himself acknowledged Satan as the prince of this world (John 12:31,) (John 14:30,) (John 16:11.) The Apostle Paul writing under the influence of the Holy Spirit, called Satan, "the prince of the power of the air," (Eph. 2:2.) These and many other Bible references show the power that is at present Satan's, and people will find to their cost that he is real, and behind all of the evil events, trends and control of humans that Paul wrote about so vividly and accurately to Timothy 2000 years ago, (2 Tim. 3.)

(B) The A.V. says "stood;" but the correction "is standing," and will continue to do so until he is broken "by no human hand," (Dan. 8:25) and then bound in the bottomless pit.

(c) "Child;" this is Jesus the Christ (anointed,) who is at present at the Right Hand of the Majesty, in Heaven, awaiting the time that His enemies are made His footstool. There are a number of people who feel that this child is the "new Israel," and will be caught up to God and His throne for protection. In the view of the writer this cannot be, as Satan must almost annihilate the Jews before Christ will return to save the remnant of them. If the Almighty intervened at this stage, and took Israel out of the Tribulation, Satan would claim the victor, as the events prophesied in Scripture would have not been allowed to run their full course on earth, which is his (Satan's) sphere of rule. The help given to the suffering Jews will be via Christ's Spirit as described in Chp. 11:4; and elsewhere. Also if that were to happen, unregenerate humans would be in the most Sacred Place (The Throne,) which clearly would not accord with the main message (the Fall, and Regeneration work of Christ Jesus) of all of Scripture. Only Christ can be with Jehovah God on His throne after He became the first fruit in resurrection. Only He has the sanctity to be with the Father. On the contrary the Jews who are at the present still "lo-ammi," (not my people) are yet to see, accept and mourn Christ whom they pierced (Zech. 12:10,) only then will their cleansing begin, and together with the righteous resurrected Jews, form the reborn, new, nation of Israel, the eventual Jeshurun, (the ideal Israel.) There is a curious verse (Isa. 66:7) which seems to say that a child (nation) will be born before the normal travail of labour. However; the "before" (Str. 2962) is probably mistranslated in the A.V., and should read "delayed," "suspended," "not yet," "none-occurrence." The meaning being that the nation being brought to being is suspended! That prophecy foreshadows the rejection of Christ by Israel, and therefore their own rejected ("lo-ammi,") state for 2000 years. After the Zech. 12:10 experience, the rest of Isa. 66 applies and is wonderful for Israel and other peoples of God. That a nation is being brought forth cannot be disputed, as in the following verse (Isa. 66.8,) Zion is travailed! Verses 7 & 8 therefore seem to contradict, except for the above possible explanation, and a filling full of the prophecy. It is supremely significant, that as soon as Antichrist breaks his peace agreement with Israel, (2nd ½ of 70th week Dan.) chapter 11 of Rev. and its events start, which correspond with Isa. 66:8, "for as soon as Zion travaileth, she brought forth her sons (children.)" This is the birth of the new nation of Israel. The one that will have such earthly blessing in the 1000 years of Jehovah / Christ's reign on earth, whose borders will be as the promise made to Abraham by Jehovah (Gen. 12:2-3,) (Gen. 15:18,) (Jer. 32:37-42,) (Jer. 33:14-16,) (Jer. 33:25-26,) (Ezk. 11:17-20,) (Ezk. 34,) (Ezk. 47:15-21,) and many other references throughout Scripture. The birth of this nation is one of the great events in the plan of Jehovah Zebaoth on earth, and will be greeted with great joy in heaven and earth, as it corresponds with the praise of the heavenly hosts for the vanquishing of the evil one on earth (Rev. 19:1,) which was prophesied in Psalm 104:35.

It is important to differentiate the above nation, at the beginning of the Millennial Reign of Jesus Christ Messiah; from that of the "overcomers!" Both these entities have different destinations in the Plan of Jehovah Zebaoth!
 

gumby

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The Book of Revelation is not a literal Book, it is spiritual. No where does it say John was being literal or partially literal, but it does say John was in spirit on the Lord's day. Revelation is the most spiritual Book in the Bible and is symbolic not literal. If you believe it is literal or particially literal show me using God's Word where this is written?

Hi ben, i see that whirlwind has not posted to your reply but i beleive i can answer your question here. Romans 1:19 and Romans 1:20 make it very clear.