That just sounds like quite the title to appropriate to oneself, that's all.
No, I am not under OT law.
Qualities of Biblical Prophets
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That just sounds like quite the title to appropriate to oneself, that's all.
No, I am not under OT law.
Most of us are Gentiles...few in this part of the country are from the Levitical tribe.
And let's not forget those who are indoctrinated by religious theology...and those who are ignorant of His Word who are destroyed for lack of knowledge.
Religion can lead you into physical and spiritual death. The Pharisees and Saduccees are a good example of those having a form of godliness but denied the power thereof.
This thread is not about false prophets but about true prophets of God.
1 Samuel 10: 9-13
9 Then it happened, when he turned his back to leave Samuel, that God changed his heart; and all those signs came about on that day. 10 When they came there to the hill, behold, a group of prophets met him; and the Spirit of God rushed upon him, so that he prophesied among them. 11 And it came about, when all who previously knew him saw that he was indeed prophesying with the prophets, that the people said to one another, “What is this that has happened to the son of Kish? Is Saul also among the prophets?” 12 And a man from there responded and said, “And who is their father?” Therefore it became a saying: “Is Saul also among the prophets?” 13 When he had finished prophesying, he came to the high place.
I don't know about that, he's sounding a little off to me?You are a pretty awesome evangelist. Welcome to CB.
During the Old Testament, clearly the Prophets of the Bible all had very distinct and varying characters, to the point that I question if there is a standard that can be defined in regard to their personalities, outside of God choosing specific men, for a specific purpose. That is, Jeremiah may not have been the right man for Daniel's position, or maybe Isaiah would not have been as effective as Ezekiel, under the same circumstances, etc...? I don't believe that David was as meek as Moses, nor was Jonah as resolute as Ezra or Nehemiah (if the latter two can be called prophets).
Within this dispensation of Christ, there is the gift of prophecy, that apparently some people's faith allow them to acquire it, where others don't - it sounds open to all believers depending on their faith.
1 Corinthians 12:28-31
12:28. And God has appointed in the church, first apostles, second prophets, third teachers, then miracles, then gifts of healings, helps, administrations, various kinds of tongues. 29. All are not apostles, are they? All are not prophets, are they? All are not teachers, are they? All are not workers of miracles, are they? 30. All do not have gifts of healings, do they? All do not speak with tongues, do they? All do not interpret, do they? 31. But earnestly desire the greater gifts. And I show you a still more excellent way.
Ephesians 4:11-12
4:11. And He gave some as apostles, and some as prophets, and some as evangelists, and some as pastors and teachers, 12. for the equipping of the saints for the work of service, to the building up of the body of Christ;
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They were ridgy didge, fair dinkum, no sh.t. What do I mean? They came clean when they saw their mistakes; no ifs or buts....just truthful about their sh.t. ....They repented from the heart and refused to dance in the skating rink of evil. It is exactly the same quality God promises us if we come clean......cuz luke warm means being spat out!
Jeremiah was thrown into a well, Isaiah was sawn in half, they told people the truth given them by God, to God's people, and they were hated for it.
Some of the meanest people I've ever met say they love Jesus.
To want to be a prophet, you'd either have a death wish, or love God.
Or both.
Love god, love each other, keep it simple, don't be stupid.
Some of the meanest people I've ever met say they love Jesus.
To want to be a prophet, you'd either have a death wish, or love God.
Or both.
Love god, love each other, keep it simple, don't be stupid.
The reason there is a $21 bill is because there is a $20 bill.
King Saul disobeyed God, threw a spear at Savid
Saul was not a prophet...Samuel was a prophet who anointed Saul as the 1st King of Israel. In the Book of Samuel you read where Saul became extremely jealous of David and even tried to kill him.
1 Samuel 18 (KJV)
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¹⁰ And it came to pass on the morrow, that the evil spirit from God came upon Saul, and he prophesied in the midst of the house: and David played with his hand, as at other times: and there was a javelin in Saul's hand.
¹¹ And Saul cast the javelin; for he said, I will smite David even to the wall with it. And David avoided out of his presence twice.
1 Samuel 19 (KJV)
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²⁰ And Saul sent messengers to take David: and when they saw the company of the prophets prophesying, and Samuel standing as appointed over them, the Spirit of God was upon the messengers of Saul, and they also prophesied.
²¹ And when it was told Saul, he sent other messengers, and they prophesied likewise. And Saul sent messengers again the third time, and they prophesied also.
²² Then went he also to Ramah, and came to a great well that is in Sechu: and he asked and said, Where are Samuel and David? And one said, Behold, they be at Naioth in Ramah.
²³ And he went thither to Naioth in Ramah: and the Spirit of God was upon him also, and he went on, and prophesied, until he came to Naioth in Ramah.
²⁴ And he stripped off his clothes also, and prophesied before Samuel in like manner, and lay down naked all that day and all that night. Wherefore they say, Is Saul also among the prophets?
It is so important to read things in context.
Truth, and to be honest, while everyone should desire to prophesy, lots of people want the gift of prophecy but very few want to live as a prophet. So that's another question, that I intend to look into today and look in the concordance and measure up what's being written, because prophesy can also mean speaking.Jeremiah was thrown into a well, Isaiah was sawn in half, they told people the truth given them by God, to God's people, and they were hated for it.
Some of the meanest people I've ever met say they love Jesus.
To want to be a prophet, you'd either have a death wish, or love God.
Or both.
Love god, love each other, keep it simple, don't be stupid.
Is God saying that everyone should desire the ability to know what is coming or is it that everyone should desire to speak? Because one you might get in a lot of trouble if you try to force it, but the other one we should all be capable of. =
Psalm 57:16
"The sacrifices of God are a broken spirit; A broken and a contrite heart, O God, Thou wilt not despise."
You might get molded
Isaiah 64:8
"We are the clay, you are the potter; we are all the work of your hand."
You might get tested
Isaiah 48:10
"I have refined you, but not as silver is refined. Rather, I have refined you in the furnace of affliction."
But as far as being outright murdered, that's probably not going to happen in America for many years, but you might get arrested and have your name smeared, or being beaten. The world is changing for street preachers.
To quote Leonard Ravenhill:
"And as dear Tozer used to say, 'If you're going to be a prophet, brother you'd better settle.' Or it was Dr. Parker who originally said, "If you're going to be a prophet you'll have to preach repentance and before you start, dedicate your head to heaven because you won't last much more than 6 months maybe.'
John the Baptist himself didn't. He went into the wilderness until his day of showing forth. .... I told you this morning it takes God 20 years to make a man. It took him 20 years to make John Baptist. And he preached 6 months."
Here's that bit if anyone wants to see it...
On the flipside of that, I strongly believe that God protects the righteous. He will mold and test who he wants to in order to prepare them for any good work, but that does not mean we are doomed to live a miserable life or a harsh death (especially at this time). I strongly believe that he protects and guides those whom he loves - and we might be tempted to give into the idea that it's absolutely necessary to be miserable forever, but I don't think so.
Just an update on that last verse in 1 Corinthians 14:1.
Follow the way of love and eagerly desire gifts of the Spirit, especially prophecy.
That last word is προφητεύητε (prophéteuó)
Strong's Greek 4395: From prophetes; to foretell events, divine, speak under inspiration, exercise the prophetic office.
But my advice would be to separate yourselves from "training groups" or courses that teach you to meditate or "listen" for a voice or waiting to see words in your mind and so on. I believe that we can pray for the gift but if God has something to say, he will do it on his own and he doesn't need our permission.
The reason I say that is because I spent a lot of time being deceived by spirits after having an actual prophecy that led me into a bad place. I think now my discernment is pretty good, but I didn't do very well in the beginning. Actual prophecies for myself tend to be very, very, very rare. It's also important to not fall into the trap of pride, or that you aren't led away into what you want to believe.
Sometimes you have to accept truth, whether it is or isn't what you necessarily want to hear. You can't fall into the trap of giving yourself your own itching ears. That's very easy to do when you want something badly. And the enemy enjoys giving us false hope to cause us to doubt and lose faith.
Sometimes it is God's will for us to know, but other times he wants us to trust him without hearing and just have faith. Even when life becomes very difficult and it seems like everything is collapsing, or God isn't do anything, and we feel burdened by silence, we have to know that nothing falls out from his hand. He knows what to do and how to do it.
Follow the way of love and eagerly desire gifts of the Spirit, especially prophecy.
That last word is προφητεύητε (prophéteuó)
Strong's Greek 4395: From prophetes; to foretell events, divine, speak under inspiration, exercise the prophetic office.
But my advice would be to separate yourselves from "training groups" or courses that teach you to meditate or "listen" for a voice or waiting to see words in your mind and so on. I believe that we can pray for the gift but if God has something to say, he will do it on his own and he doesn't need our permission.
The reason I say that is because I spent a lot of time being deceived by spirits after having an actual prophecy that led me into a bad place. I think now my discernment is pretty good, but I didn't do very well in the beginning. Actual prophecies for myself tend to be very, very, very rare. It's also important to not fall into the trap of pride, or that you aren't led away into what you want to believe.
Sometimes you have to accept truth, whether it is or isn't what you necessarily want to hear. You can't fall into the trap of giving yourself your own itching ears. That's very easy to do when you want something badly. And the enemy enjoys giving us false hope to cause us to doubt and lose faith.
Sometimes it is God's will for us to know, but other times he wants us to trust him without hearing and just have faith. Even when life becomes very difficult and it seems like everything is collapsing, or God isn't do anything, and we feel burdened by silence, we have to know that nothing falls out from his hand. He knows what to do and how to do it.
Yes, it would stand to reason that this would be a pre-requisite to some degree or another - as God cannot move or inspire someone who does not believe in His power or presence.
The appellation of Prophet is not reserved for those who had a life-long ministry of God inspired prophesying. In the Hebrew TaNaKh, as you probably know, from Joshua to Kings, these are considered the former prophets. Simply meaning, the term is broad. Not to mention the Minor Prophets, who, although their written legacy appears to be brief (Jonah's tenure was shorter than Saul's), are still regarded as Biblical Prophets.
Saul, without controversy, prophesied under the auspices of God, as did Balaam, even despite his original nefarious intent. Don't forget that God even inspired Balaam's donkey to speak?
Sorry H2S, but you are attempting to define the one's that God's has chosen for a specific purpose, with that of having good character as a pre-requisite. An element of faith is probably a catalyst, but consider the history of the kings and how their comportment changed in time, despite once having an unadulterated zeal for God - one may be inspired one day, but not the next.
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