Strong Delusion

Addressing the OP, the same reason why he Spiritually blinded Israel, WHY? to bring forth the GENTILES. God don't do nothing for nothing.
Isaiah 66:4 "I also will choose their delusions, and will bring their fears upon them; because when I called, none did answer; when I spake, they did not hear: but they did evil before mine eyes, and chose that in which I delighted not."

why the "delusions then?" because when God called, none answered. when he spake none heard..... JUST LIKE TODAY... and who is he BRING FORTH TODAY, let see, Isaiah 66:6 "A voice of noise from the city, a voice from the temple, a voice of the LORD that rendereth recompence to his enemies." (Revelation chapter 4).
Isaiah 66:7 "Before she travailed, she brought forth; before her pain came, she was delivered of a man child."
Isaiah 66:8 "Who hath heard such a thing? who hath seen such things? Shall the earth be made to bring forth in one day? or shall a nation be born at once? for as soon as Zion travailed, she brought forth her children."
Isaiah 66:9 "Shall I bring to the birth, and not cause to bring forth? saith the LORD: shall I cause to bring forth, and shut the womb? saith thy God." (One may want to read that again, and then read Acts 2:39 and see who is being "CALLED FORTH"...... Hosea 13:9-14). YIKES!.
Isaiah 66:10 "Rejoice ye with Jerusalem, and be glad with her, all ye that love her: rejoice for joy with her, all ye that mourn for her:"
Isaiah 66:11 "That ye may suck, and be satisfied with the breasts of her consolations; that ye may milk out, and be delighted with the abundance of her glory."
Isaiah 66:12 "For thus saith the LORD, Behold, I will extend peace to her like a river, and the glory of the Gentiles like a flowing stream: then shall ye suck, ye shall be borne upon her sides, and be dandled upon her knees."
Isaiah 66:13 "As one whom his mother comforteth, so will I comfort you; and ye shall be comforted in Jerusalem."
Isaiah 66:14 "And when ye see this, your heart shall rejoice, and your bones shall flourish like an herb: and the hand of the LORD shall be known toward his servants, and his indignation toward his enemies."

Just read.... and .... understand the hand writting on the wall... EVEN TODAY. YIKES!.

PICJAG
101G The "Spiritual Saboteur"

Timtofly said:

Yes, rebellion is not sin, ... Rebellion is just the ultimate rejection of God's plan and will.

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Timtofly says as above: "Yes, rebellion is not sin ... Rebellion is just the ultimate rejection of God's plan and will".

The Word of GOD says: Rebellion is like -is similar- the sin of witchcraft / or sorcery ...
Therefore, rebellion and witchcraft both are distinct sin. Rebellion is disobedience, and disobedience is witchcraft and rebellion.

But timtofly say: "rebellion is not a sin";
What you said above is fake, it is a lie; rebellion is a sin, yes, a sin of sorcery, here Timtofly is rebelling LITERALLY against the written Word of GOD when says "rebellion is not sin", but the Word of GOD says it is. The Word is GOD.

What was the sin of Sha'ul? Rebellion; FIRST he rebelled, or disregards, or slight to the Word of GOD, and AFTER he sinned seriously because rebelled or slighted the Word of GOD and offered sacrifices to the LORD and he was disapproved / censored, by the prophet of the LORD, who said to Sha'ul: "Hath the Lord as great delight in burnt offerings and sacrifices, as in obeying His words? Behold, to obey is better than sacrifice... For rebellion is like -is similar- the sin of witchcraft ...Because thou hast rejected (disregarded, slighted) the Word of the Lord, he hath also rejected thee. This was the consequence firstly of the sin of rebellion, and ...

King Sha'ul was a liar:

Samuel came to Saul: and Saul said unto him, Blessed be thou of the Lord: I have performed the commandment of the Lord.
But Saul lied to the prophet Samuel.
Saul said unto Samuel, Yea, I have obeyed the voice of the Lord, and have gone the way which the Lord sent me, ...
And Samuel said, What meaneth then this bleating of the sheep in mine ears, and the lowing of the oxen which I hear? 1 Sam.15:v.13-14 and 20

Be careful
or get ready.

Timtofly said:

Paul was the disciple who replaced Judas.

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What you said above is fake, it is a lie, and it is sin, sin of sorcery, rebelling LITERALLY against the written Word of GOD when you say "Paul was the disciple who replaced Judas", but the Word of GOD does not say it, quite the contrary: JESUS said: Acts 9:v.15-16:
15 Paul is a chosen vessel unto me, to bear my name before the Gentiles, and kings, and the children of Israel:
16 For I will shew him how great things he must suffer for my name's sake.


Here also Timtofly is rebelling LITERALLY against the written Word of GOD when says "Paul was the disciple who replaced Judas", but the Word of GOD does not say it. The Word is GOD.

JESUS left very clear, saying: Matthew 12:v.34-37
34 O generation of vipers, how can ye, being evil, speak good things? for out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaketh.
35 A good man out of the good treasure of the heart bringeth forth good things: and an evil man out of the evil treasure bringeth forth evil things.

36 But I say unto you, That every idle word that men shall speak, they shall give account thereof in this Day of Judgment.
37 For by thy words thou shalt be justified, and by thy words thou shalt be condemned.


And Paul Apostle left very clear, saying: Romans 2:v.11-12 and 16:
11 For there is no respect of persons with God.
12 For as many as have sinned without law - the Gentiles- shall also perish without law: and as many as have sinned in the law - the Jews- shall be judged by the law;

In the Day -this Day arrived, the LORD's Day- when GOD shall Judge the secrets of men by Jesus Christ according to my gospel.

Be careful
or get ready.

Timtofly said:

Satan did not rebel first.
Sin has nothing to do with angels.

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The Word of GOD brings us the follow revelation about Satan, a former Cherub, a former ruler of Eden. What does the Word of GOD say? It is written:
"Thou hast been in Eden the garden of God; every precious stone was thy covering...full of wisdom, and perfect in beauty. Thine HEART was lifted up because of thy beauty, thou hast CORRUPTED thy wisdom by reason of thy brightness: I will cast thee to the ground, I will lay thee before kings (I have made you a spectacle) that they may behold.
Thou art the anointed Cherub that covereth; and I have set thee so: thou was upon the holy mountain of GOD; thou hast walked up and down in the midst of the stones of fire. Thou wast perfect in thy ways from the day that thou wast created, till iniquity was found in thee(IN HIS HEART).

The Word of GOD says: Rebellion is like -is similar- the sin of witchcraft / or sorcery ...Therefore, rebellion and witchcraft both are sin. Rebellion is disobedience, and disobedience is witchcraft and rebellion.

What Timtofly said above about angels is fake, it is a lie, it is tares of the Devil, and it is a sin, sin of sorcery, rebelling LITERALLY against the written Word of GOD when he says "Sin has nothing to do with angels", but the Word of GOD reveals they sinned against their Creator, beginning by the ruler of the Garden, a former Cherub, "full of wisdom, and perfect in beauty. His HEART was lifted up because of his beauty, he CORRUPTED his wisdom by reason of his brightness, then GOD Almighty cast him to the ground and laid him before kings that they may behold (GOD have made him a spectacle).

JUDE in his epistle reveals that after the fall in Eden, the angels that did not keep within their original authority (their first estate, THEIR FIRST NATURE), but abandoned their proper sphere (habitation), GOD -the Word is GOD - has kept them in darkness, bound with everlasting chains for the Judgment of this Great Day. And S’dom, ‘Amora and the surrounding cities, FOLLOWING a pattern like theirs, committing sexual sins and perversions, lie exposed as a warning of the everlasting fire awaiting those who must undergo punishment (or suffering the vengeance of eternal fire). Jude 1:v.6-7CJB

But I think that it is interesting to make an extension of the events occurred from the fall in Eden until the Noah's days.

In fact, after the fall in Eden, GOD Almighty planned to restore or restitution all things-Acts 3:v.19 to 24-,as He revealed to Moses after around 2,500 years or two Days and half since the fall in Eden. And Moses wrote what GOD revealed to him in the book of Genesis.

There was a gap of time from the fall in Eden till the beginning of GOD's works. Genesis 1: v.5 says: And the evening, and the morning, was the first Day, in other words, from sunset to sunset the next Day, as said Moses-Psalms 90:v.4 and 12. Everyone know that one Day with the LORD is as a thousand days. Actually, GOD began to work on his plan to restore or restitution all things no longer 500 years after the fall in Eden, in other words, only after half a Day running since the fall at Eden.

That said, from the fall that occurred in Eden to Noah's Day there was only and only darkness on earth, and only corrupt generations grew within of darkness, as is revealed in Genesis 6: v.1 to 8. More than fifteen hundred years passed since the fall in Eden, more precisely one thousand five hundred
and fifty-six years (1,556 years). God saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually, then the Lord said: I will destroy man whom I have created from the face of the earth, but Noah was a just man and perfect in his generations, and Noah walked with God, and he found grace in the eyes of the Lord.

Well, But as the days of Noah were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be. For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark, And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.Matt.24:v.37-39

Be careful or get ready

n2thelight said:

The delusion is so that one will not be judged in ignorance .

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But what does the Word of GOD say? The Word is GOD.

Acts 17:v.30-31
30 And the times of this ignorance God winked at; but now commandeth all men every where to repent:

31 Because he hath appointed a day, in the which he will judge the world in righteousness by that man whom he hath ordained; whereof he hath given assurance unto all men, in that he hath raised him from the dead.

John 17:v.22
22 If I had not come and spoken unto them, they had not had sin: but now they have no cloak for their sin.

Oseas said:

But I think that it is interesting to make an extension of the events occurred from the fall in Eden until the Noah's days.

In fact, after the fall in Eden, GOD Almighty planned to restore or restitution all things-Acts 3:v.19 to 24-,as He revealed to Moses after around 2,500 years or two Days and half since the fall in Eden. And Moses wrote what GOD revealed to him in the book of Genesis.

There was a gap of time from the fall in Eden till the beginning of GOD's works. Genesis 1: v.5 says: And the evening, and the morning, was the first Day, in other words, from sunset to sunset the next Day, as said Moses-Psalms 90:v.4 and 12. Everyone know that one Day with the LORD is as a thousand days. Actually, GOD began to work on his plan to restore or restitution all things no longer 500 years after the fall in Eden, in other words, only after half a Day running since the fall at Eden.

That said, from the fall that occurred in Eden to Noah's Day there was only and only darkness on earth, and only corrupt generations grew within of darkness, as is revealed in Genesis 6: v.1 to 8. More than fifteen hundred years passed since the fall in Eden, more precisely one thousand five hundred
and fifty-six years (1,556 years*). God saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually, then the Lord said: I will destroy man whom I have created from the face of the earth, but Noah was a just man and perfect in his generations, and Noah walked with God, and he found grace in the eyes of the Lord.

Well, But as the days of Noah were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be. For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark, And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.Matt.24:v.37-39

Be careful or get ready

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*1,556 plus 100 years to build the Ark-> 1,656 years
Noah was born in 1,056. Noah was 500 years old when GOD called him - Genesis 5:v.32 ->1,556 years.
- plus 100 years to build the Ark- Noah was 600 years old -> 1.656 years

Based in the Word of God, the source of the truth, on God's six Days of creation and one Day of rest (a total of seven days) plus the Scriptures that teach that one Day is with the Lord as a thousand years (Psalm 90:4; II Pet. 3:8; Heb. 4:4) so MANKIND would go through six God Days of 1,000 years each (a total of 6,000 years) plus a Millennium of 1,000 years rest (now a total of 7,000 years).
In accord biblical Chronology, we can number our days, beginning in Genesis chapter 5, as follow:
Adam lived ….........................................130 years and begat Seth
Seth lived ………………………………………………….........105 yrs and begat Enosh;
Enosh lived ............................................90 yrs and begat Kenan;
Kenan lived........................................,,,,70 yrs and begat Mahalalel;
Mahalalel lived ........................................65 yrs and begat Jared;
Jared lived ...........................................162 yrs and begat Enoch;
Enoch lived ............................................65 yrs and begat Methuselah;
Methuselah lived.....................................187 yrs and begat Lamech;
Lamech lived .........................................182 yrs and begat Noah;
Total..................................................1.056 yrs
From Noah´s birth until the Flood..................600 yrs.
Total of years from Adam to the Flood =.........1,656 yrs.

I work with the Word of God. Notice that the table above is proved by the Word of God, it is not of human theories or human speculations. Let us study the times until our days not by human theories and speculations, but by the Word of God. The Word is GOD.

n2thelight said:

Thinking you missing the point , it's like when Christ died ,where was He for them 3 days ? also we can bring in the resurrection to this as well
many don't even know the meaning of that .

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Oh the true Christians/true believers are familiarized with the Word of GOD you have forget to refer in your posts - the Word is GOD - and they know the answer for your question because one of the Apostles of the LORD left written in his epistle about this matter. They know where is written the answer for your question.

What the true Christians/true believers are not familiarized is with your imaginations, or conjectures, or speculations, or opinions, or suppositions, sources of your peculiar points.

n2thelight said:

What I talk about is end times ,ie, the generation of the fig tree ,those that will be here during that time .
If you die in Christ you have no worries , it's to those that will be here right b4 His coming is what I'm talking about .

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It seems like there is no reason for you to link your imaginations with the things already revealed in Scriptures for the knowledge of GOD's people, you should express in separate your imaginations, and histories, and fantasies, it because the Word is GOD, a false witness will not be unpunished, and he that speaks lies shall not escape, and the Lord will not hold him guiltless that takes his name in vain.

n2thelight said:

The delusion is so that one will not be judged in ignorance .

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n2thelight said:

Thinking you missing the point , it's like when Christ died ,where was He for them 3 days ? also we can bring in the resurrection to this as well many don't even know the meaning of that .
What I talk about is end times ,ie, the generation of the fig tree ,those that will be here during that time .
If you die in Christ you have no worries , it's to those that will be here right b4 His coming is what I'm talking about .

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n2thelight said:

Not imagining anything , and yes I'm ready to stand b4 God with what I post , and I know what the Word is

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By your posts above it looks like you’re just delusional and stealthily, surreptitiously, you do not say what you intend to mean. Actually an evil strategy.

n2thelight said:

Why does God send that ?

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The 'Strong Delusion' is defined and clarified in this verse...

Isaiah 66:4
"I also will choose their delusions, and will bring their fears upon them;..."

Thus, the Strong Delusion that will come is basically folks having their worst nightmare manifest and come to life. Whatever someone fears the most, that is what they will experience. Sounds utterly horrible!

I believe that same Strong Delusion is what Torments will be like for the Unsaved in Hell.

Here is the reason why God will send it...

"...because when I called, none did answer; when I spake, they did not hear: but they did evil before mine eyes, and chose that in which I delighted not."

QUOTE="Base12, post: 980350, member: 8477"]The 'Strong Delusion' is defined and clarified in this verse...

Isaiah 66:4
"I also will choose their delusions, and will bring their fears upon them;..."

Thus, the Strong Delusion that will come is basically folks having their worst nightmare manifest and come to life. Whatever someone fears the most, that is what they will experience. Sounds utterly horrible!

I believe that same Strong Delusion is what Torments will be like for the Unsaved in Hell.

Here is the reason why God will send it...

"...because when I called, none did answer; when I spake, they did not hear: but they did evil before mine eyes, and chose that in which I delighted not."[/QUOTE]
Good post. The Word is GOD. Isaiah prophesied as you quoted, and is combined with 2 Thessalonians 2:v.8-12 and Matthews 24:v.15 to 25:

2 Thessalonians 2:v.8-12:

8 And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:

9 Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,
10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.

11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:
12 That they all might be DAMNED who believed not the Truth - believed not in JESUS -, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

Matthew 24:v. 15 to 25
15 When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand).

THE PRIOR ADVICE OF OUR LORD

16 Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains:
17 Let him which is on the housetop not come down to take any thing out of his house:
18 Neither let him which is in the field return back to take his clothes.
19 And woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck in those days!
20 But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the sabbath day:

ABOUT STRONG PUNISHMENT

21 For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.
22 And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened.

TIME OF GREAT DANGER EVEN FOR THE ELECTS - THE FALSE CHRIST

23 Then if any man -Pastors, and Bishops, or Evangelists, Missionaries, among others - shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not.
24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets -FALSE PREACHERS OF THE WORD OF GOD-2 Corinthians 11:v.13-15, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive (even) the very elect.

25 Behold, I have told you before.

In Christ JESUS, KING of kings (kings made by Him), and LORD of lords

n2thelight said:

... the delusion is for their own good, so they won't be damned

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What does the Word of GOD say? The Word is GOD, don't you know of this?

He said: And for this cause GOD shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie, that they all might be damned ...

Yeah, the Word is GOD. What all the readers can see is that you contradict GOD, the Word is GOD, and He, Himself, left clear that "rebellion is like -is similar- the sin of sorcery - witchcraft - , stubbornness like the crime of idolatry. Because you have rejected the Word of Adonai, he too has rejected you ... 1 Samuel 15:v.23- CJB - Complete Jewish Bible.

JESUS said: Matthew 10:v.27-28KJV

27 What I tell you in darkness, that speak ye in light: and what ye hear in the ear, that preach ye upon the housetops.

28 And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear Him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.

Be careful, or get ready

n2thelight said:

Mostly Christians will be deceived, as the rest of the world already are , the delusion is for their own good, so they won't be damned

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Now; that is an interesting comment!
I believe you are right. People have been put under a spirit of deep sleep, Isaiah 29:11, the Lord wants His great Day of testing by fire, to come unexpectedly so as to shock, to make us decide either to trust the Lord for His protection, or to deny Him because He will not do what many believe.
It will be the Day of winnowing; Matthew 3:12

Keraz said:

Now; that is an interesting comment!
I believe you are right. People have been put under a spirit of deep sleep, Isaiah 29:11, the Lord wants His great Day of testing by fire, to come unexpectedly so as to shock, to make us decide either to trust the Lord for His protection, or to deny Him because He will not do what many believe.
It will be the Day of winnowing; Matthew 3:12

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JESUS said: Matthew 13:v.40-43

40 As therefore the tares are gathered and burned in the FIRE -GOD, the Word, is a devouring FIRE-; so shall it be in the END of this world.

41 The Son of man shall send forth his messengers, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity;

42 And shall cast them into a furnace of FIRE: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth.

43 Then shall the righteous shine forth as the sun in the kingdom of their Father. Who hath ears to hear, let him hear.

n2thelight said:

You not getting the big picture ,at the risk of changing the subject ,
what do you think will be happening during the millennium ?

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Many things. Many things. There is a list of happenings. I will also ask you one thing; and answer me: How many years are counted from Adam to the beginning of the millennium? How many millennia does it correspond to, according to the Scriptures?