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Good post, thanks. A couple of things to consider. If a parent disciples with wrath, they risk having their children removed from the home by child protection. A judge who rules with wrath is demonstrating unbridled anger. I don't want God to be framed this way. Neither parents, a judge...

Agree. Here are a couple of references along those lines. Mark 9:49 NIV Everyone will be salted with fire. Malachi 3:2 NIV But who can endure the day of his coming? Who can stand when he appears? For he will be like a refiner’s fire or a launderer’s soap. [

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More from Paul. Every knee will bow and every tongue acknowledge Jesus Christ as Lord. In heaven and on earth and under the earth (in the realm of the dead) See Philippians 2:10-11 [

More from Paul's gospel. The acts of two men have determined both condemnation and justification for all of humankind. Romans 5:18-19 NIV Consequently, just as one trespass resulted in condemnation for all people, so also one righteous act resulted in justification and life for all people. 19...

Not what this says. Romans 2:14-16 NIV (Indeed, when Gentiles, who do not have the law, do by nature things required by the law, they are a law for themselves, even though they do not have the law. 15 They show that the requirements of the law are written on their hearts, their consciences...

Are you sure? Romans 2:14-16 NIV (Indeed, when Gentiles, who do not have the law, do by nature things required by the law, they are a law for themselves, even though they do not have the law. 15 They show that the requirements of the law are written on their hearts, their consciences also...

Steeped? - LOL I still consider you a friend as well. Even though we have butted heads over this issue a few times. Hopefully you understand that Universalism (apokatastasis) isn't some modern invention. The belief was held by many in the eastern (Greek) church. (HQ'd in Jerusalem) Our...

Since Jesus died to pay the death penalty for original sin, what happens if you remove the original sinner? Or to state this another way... How does our view of origins affect our doctrine? Trying to sort this out in my own mind. Stuck somewhere between science and religion. This scripture...

Everyone who has knees to bow and a tongue to speak, in heaven and on earth and under the earth (in the realm of the dead), will whole-heartedly, and without reservation, acknowledge that Jesus Christ is Lord. No one can say that “Jesus is Lord,” except by the Holy Spirit. If you declare with...

St. SteVen said: Philippians 2:10-11 that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, in heaven and on earth and under the earth, 11 and every tongue acknowledge that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father. An acknowledgment of Jesus as Lord is a powerful...

Romans 14:9 Christ died to condemn humankind? John 3:17 NIV For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through him. [

St. SteVen said: Titus 2:11 ESV For the grace of God has appeared, bringing salvation for all people, Yes. And it tells the Elect right up front, "For the grace of God has appeared, bringing salvation for all people," - vs 11 It doesn't say for SOME people. It says for ALL...

They use as a derogatory term "OSAS" (Once Saved Always Saved) Claiming that those who promote eternal security do it as a license to sin. (sigh) [

Titus 2:11 ESV For the grace of God has appeared, bringing salvation for all people, Romans 14:9 For this very reason, Christ died and returned to life so that he might be the Lord of both the dead and the living. Philippians 2:10-11 that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, in heaven...

Agree. I started a topic to present the positive view of eternal security. Every other topic on the subject was negative. My topic was met with considerable push-back. [

I'll have to be honest on this point, there are biblical arguments on both sides of the eternal security issue. I happen to agree with your position on this, obviously. Here's a topic on the subject. Both sides share...

Agree. There is nothing we can do to undo what only God can do in the first place. [

Well said. Thanks. Welcome to the forum. [

Nonsense. I don't hate the Bible... Or do I? I do hate the misuse. And I warn about Bibliolatry. I'm concerned about inflated (and false) claims about the book. And the general ignorance about where the Bible came from. Caused by a church that has suppressed the truth about it. Probably because...