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I have no choice to if Premil is Biblical but Amil isn't. It's not like the NHNE don't begin with the 2nd coming. There is no way around that though most Premils think there is. Meaning that the NHNE begin with the 2nd coming. What is your view of the following in Isaiah 60, meaning what are...

In your world, I guess, there are no other possibilities, only what you have concluded? You do not think---The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation--is involving the vials of wrath but is involving the LOF during...

Even though I'm Premil, some Premils are not being consistent at times. Maybe even me at times. But in this case not meaning me as well. Some examples. Revelation 2:26 And he that overcometh, and keepeth my works unto the end, to him will I give power over the nations: Most Premils apply...

Is it possible that your interpretation, or even my interpretation of Revelation 20 is what doesn't make any sense to him rather than Revelation 20 doesn't make sense to him, period? I have been knowing him for years, and I suspect it is the former rather than the latter, in this case. And I...

Guess what? I pretty much agree with you about some of that. But even so, one then has to explain verses 16-19 since they would be meaning after Luke 17:29 is fulfilled. And that those verses say one can be punished if they fail to come up. Let's look at a cpl of things here...

Why does it have to be meaning at the end of satan's little season after the millennium? Why can't it be meaning in the beginning of the millenium? What would they need fuel for a thousand years from now at the end of satan's little season when the great white throne judgment would be the next...

How then do you see it connecting with Daniel's prophecy?

Revelation 2:8 And unto the angel of the church in Smyrna write; These things saith the first and the last, which was dead, and is alive(zao) Take this verse, for example. We should believe, per this context, that zao doesn't mean the reason He is alive(zao) is because He was initially dead...

I fully agree Paul in 2 Thessalonians 2 was writing about Daniel's prophecy. But I suspect we are not interpreting it in the same manner. For example, 2 Thessalonians 2:4. I don't take anything in that verse to be meaning in a literal sense such as a literal rebuilt temple in Jerusalem but that...

First of all there has to be enough weapons to burn non stop for 7 years. Then there has to be a valid reason all these weapons were burned to begin with and what it means once there are no more weapons to burn. Is the reason they are burned is so that there will no longer be weapons like that...

Can you explain in what way they would be living again spiritually after the thousand years are finished? I'm failing to grasp how you are deciding that? We have to keep in mind, to do anything again requires that someone was doing it initially, quit doing it, then started doing it again...

Apparently, you take this hour literally, right? As in a literal 60 minutes, that within this same literal 60 minutes He will have first raised, judged, rewarded all the saved one at a time, possibly billions of people, and when that part is finished, He will then raise the lost, billions and...

Then you argue that Revelation 20:4---and they lived--is not meaning the same thing you argue it is meaning here. But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. If these don't live again until the thousand years are finished, this obviously means someone else...

But I think he is meaning that a millennium follows Revelation 19 and that they are not judged until after the millennium that follows the 2nd coming. Can't see Amils agreeing with that. I don't think he fully grasps that Premil is not the only view, that there are other views, such as Amil.

Maybe the judgment seat of Christ per that context is not meaning the GWTJ in Revelation 20? Per Premil, my view would be that Revelation 11:18 is involving the judgment seat of Christ pertaining to the saved and rewards for the saved but is not meaning Revelation 20:11-15, though. Here's an...

I wanted to be fair and point out that even Amils can't get that to logically fit 1 Cor 15:50-56, even if their view is correct, let alone @Keraz get it to logically fit. I didn't mean anything bad by it by mentioning Amils.

I wouldn't bet on that. Amils, for example, might disagree with this---The wicked alive at His return are killed physically (not yet judged)---meaning with what I have underlined. You must not be reading some of these posts in this thread if you think that.

Here's your dilemma, though. In 70 AD old Jerusalem was literally destroyed. In the 20th century old Jerusalem was literally rebuilt. And you can't get past that fact unless want to insist that the Jerusalem that exists in that region resembles a new Jerusalem, one that can't be destroyed...

Even if I looked at it the way you are, except I wouldn't be applying it to 70 AD, but even so, it would be impossible that the old Jerusalem can be meant, based on that every wall falls to the ground when Christ returns. Keeping in mind, I'm meaning Ezekiel 38:20 in this case. And if every wall...

You can't nor can anyone, including Amils, get 1 Cor 15:50-56 to logically fit the GWTJ. And here are some reasons why. 1 Corinthians 15:52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be...