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I'm going to have to side with @Ritajanice because I don't think you're understanding her statement. I THINK she's saying that we have to know God in a personal way....as the bible states IN OUR HEART.... God will give us a new heart and we will all know without having to learn from our...

You practically answered your own question in the last paragraph. This is really derailing the thread.... so I'll just ask 2 questions, which you've really already answered: 1. Is the bible the only way to know about God? 2. Are only knowledgeable persons going to heaven - or anyone that...

Agreed. The more we can know the better it is. I also think that knowledge can cement our faith...you know, be ready to give a reason. These persons I'm talking about cannot do that, but they're still saved.

The CC believes that Jesus died for our sins. They believe that Jesus' atonement bought us back from the power of satan. A person in the CC becomes saved in the same way as a person in any other Christian church (except for the reformed/Calvinist). Every church that presents you with Jesus and...

You know M, this is a difficult discussion. I have confidence in the bible. It was believed that Jericho was not even a real city.... until it was unearthed, I think, in the 1930's (might be wrong on the date). Sodom and Gemmorah were real places. Gehenna is a real place to this day. I just...

Agreed. Every man has had the opportunity to know God. But does it say from the bible or does it say from the creation? I think this is an important point.

I believe the earth is about 4.5 billion years old. This is determined geologically. This has nothing to do with God as far as I'm concerned. History requires eye witnesses. What eyewitness do we have for the OT? What we have is God's INSPIRED word.... He inspired men to write about the...

Different culture. They just never laid their hands on a bible. It wasn't made important to them. Only JWs had bibles until just recently. Maybe not too intelligent....what would they have understood of it anyway? No bible studies in church. Need more? Not everyone that believes owns a bible...

Agreed. It certainly is good to read the bible. Are we supposed to worship the bible? The verses you posted don't respond well to what is being discussed. What is being discussed is this: Someone trusted in the bible. For some reason (which escapes me right now - maybe a muslim led him...

Who woulda thunk it? Sorry Matthias....I just didn't know. Here's my point: It was possible to know God before any bible existed. Not everyone in the world has access to a bible. Romans 1 and 2 addresses this. Paul states that it has always been possible to know that God exists through His...

See my post 325.... We wrote at practically the same moment...

Thanks. Someone here understands what I'm stating.... IOW,,,,the problem of the student SHOULD NOT EVEN EXIST! @Matthias just wants to get the student back in the saddle... instead of telling him to depend on God.... The bible was written by MEN under the INSPIRATION of God... It was not...

@Matthias this is going to have to wait till tomorrow... but, to me, it's an important topic. Yeah...sounds like you live in a really big metropolis!! LOL 'night.

Perfect! So What saves us THE BIBLE or GOD? Why would a person have to have a bible in their hands in order to be saved? THIS makes my point exactly. Add me to your list... add my brother to your list.... add many persons I know to your list.... Make a trip here, I'll let you meet a whole...

Let me say it this way Johann.... If the bible disappeared tomorrow,,,, I'd still believe in God and worship Him. Maybe I'm just not expressing myself correctly.

Did you ever read Romans 1 and 2? I posted verses from there just above..... What do you think it means?

Did I say I don't trust the bible? I think there's a misunderstanding here. I said we have to worship GOD NOT THE BIBLE. Can't make it clearer than that. Some worship the bible. Then when a conflict arises,,,they lose faith IN WHAT THEY WORSHIPED. And drag God along with it. You must live in...

But what words come out of the mouth of God? Can we know them if we've never even seen a bible? We must remember Romans 1 and 2 Romans 1:18-20 18For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of people who suppress the truth [m]in unrighteousness...

Do you mean if there were no bible at their disposal or do you mean that they never heard of Jesus? I know persons that are saved that never held a bible in their hand. Right. Because he was trusting the bible instead of trusting God.

Agreed.