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Are you speaking of Romans 4:11?

Behold, I'm sorry that other thread was locked. I thought we could have a good conversation..... :( But, again, here's why I really believe the OSAS doctrine to be damning to some persons. I've mentioned this to you before, and here, once again, is the reason why: This is from post no. 1399...

I thank God for those that are able to escape from that system. And it's no use posting to the other member....I gave up long ago. Nothing but laughing and sarcasm and no seriousness about a very serious topic....

Not been following along... but There's the usual misunderstanding here.... I believe that @Runningman is correct. We are born tainted with sin... we are born with the sin nature, but we are not born with personal sin accounted to us. Adam's sin had an effect on every human, but we are not...

@Matthias I was going to reply to you but there are too many posts, it's late here, and I'd like to devote attention to them, so.... tomorrow! 'night

There must be more to it than this. I think anyone would be able to agree that there are different periods such as the ones you mentioned. So they give it a title, OK. Don't bother going to deep into this .... I think everything gets all mixed in together. Like the Covenants....each one built...

1 Cor 2:14..... states that the natural man cannot even understand the bible. Only a born again person can understand spiritual things. How can someone without the spirit understand something about the spirit? He can't. Jesus said we must be born again....

Saved by going back to the Law? Oh my. God made another mistake!! And here I thought we were in the New Covenant times! LOL Maybe it's good I don't know tooooo much?? Yeah.

Happily for me I don't know what a dispensationalist is. And if someone wanted to label me.....they'd have a REALLY difficult time ! How do I find out about dispensational theology? Send some YouTube links that you can recommend?

John said that he writes these things so that we can know we have eternal life. So that we can know that if we sin we have an advocate. Yes....Paul wrote the entire Christian theology so that we can know how to be saved. I'm sure he wanted it to be studied. But, aren't you just a LITTLE...

Wow. OK. Understood. The Body of Christ is EVERYONE, Jew and Gentile that have believed and have had faith. In the OT persons were saved by faith ... just as in the NT. This is the secret Paul spoke of....but only now has been revealed...the removal of the dividing wall between the two. The...

If I even remember right.... The student spoke to a Muslim that created doubts as to the verocity of the bible. Does the Muslim student realize that the Qu'ran is under suspicion? My whole point is: Why let ANYTHING cause doubt about GOD?? A person could convince me tomorrow that the entire...

Oh! We're all sinners saved by grace. I agree with what you believe now. There but for the grace of God go I. I don't believe there'll be a tier system in heaven!

Agreed. The bible is a source of knowledge that has been supplied by God...it can be studied to come to know different things about Him. But we have to KNOW HIM FIRST in order to understand anything it says. It could also be a comfort, as you said. And, as I've stated already, a person may...

I never thought the bible is NOT reliable. If we can't rely on the bible...WHAT would we rely on? Like I said prev....this is a tough topic. GOD CREATED EVERYTHING... Did it take 6 days? Does this take away from the fact that GOD created everything if it doesn't? Do you see a difference...

EG, Looks like this thead is over, which if fine by me. I did learn that the NJ is a literal city and that WE (Christians - or saved persons) will inhabit it. I don't understand very well what someone brought up about the BRIDE OF CHRIST being different than those that are saved....the BODY OF...

But they do testify about Him. The OT that is. Won't get any argument from me.... I don't think anyone on this thread is STRUGGLING with the reliability of the bible. I think what they're saying is that there might be some error and it's good to know so a person will not lose his faith over...

Not only that, but WHICH scriptures? The NT did not exist at this time. @Matthias

Yeah. But then what are we going to fight about? LOL Seriously, Mary......The CC wants to venerate her? Let them. It's good as far as I'm concerned. WE don't give her ENOUGH veneration. But it could be discussed. Water Baptism.....what a complicated subject. I think I know a lot about it...

Where do you find the writings of the Apostles or Peter or James? Not in the bible?