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  1. PinSeeker

    The end in relation to when Christ initially returns.

    Come on, my friend. Come on. :) David, Before Jesus's coming, Satan most certainly "deceived the nations"... He was able to prevent the spread of the Gospel beyond the nation of Israel (which is a people, not a land mass). Since Jesus's coming, and for sure since the coming of the Holy...
  2. PinSeeker

    The end in relation to when Christ initially returns.

    Hey, David, if God is God ~ and of course He is :) ~ I'm not really agreeing or disagreeing with you, but if God spoke the entire universe into existence pretty much instantaneously, then why would you say there's "no way... the great white throne judgment (could) be involving just 24 hours or...
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    The end in relation to when Christ initially returns.

    Well, Amillennialists would say the exact same thing regarding Premillennialists, Postmillennialists, and Preterists. In the end, Freedm is right; there's only ~ at least regarding the millennium ~ disagreement between us... and no intention by any one of the four not to "keep His Word as...
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    The Alternative to a Rapture

    Well, no it doesn't, but we can agree to disagree. Well, there's nothing there about Him setting foot on the ground, but I would say that's not needed. I think I said this before but I'll say it again if not... there's nothing there about Jesus removing anyone or taking anyone elsewhere. You...
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    The Alternative to a Rapture

    Ah, well, regarding the physical, that's true. But the resurrections that occur during the millennium are not physical. And not general ~ they are individual, the spiritual resurrection of all the saints, all God's elect individually, as they are born again of the Spirit and, as Paul says in...
  6. PinSeeker

    Romans 11 and the real Replacement Theology

    LOL! I have no idea what that even means, or how you would even come up with such a thing. Can we quit on that one? LOL! Grace and peace to you.
  7. PinSeeker

    The Alternative to a Rapture

    I'm quoting the ESV, which I believe to be more true to the manuscripts than others... "Also I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded for the testimony of Jesus and for the word of God, and those who had not worshiped the beast or its image and had not received its mark on their foreheads...
  8. PinSeeker

    The Alternative to a Rapture

    All believers will inherit the earth. With Jesus... co-heirs, as it were. We will go out to meet Him in His return. And yes, we will forever dwell with the Lord. And even now, we are comforted by that. There is nothing there about being taken anywhere or removed to anywhere else. Both...
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    The Alternative to a Rapture

    It is very, very important to note that in Revelation 20:4, John explicitly says that in this vision he "saw the souls of those who had been beheaded for the testimony of Jesus and for the word of God, and those who had not worshiped the beast or its image and had not received its mark on their...
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    Romans 11 and the real Replacement Theology

    Right, but that does not negate the fact that He calls them individually ~ at their own appointed time. Well, the Bible is very clear that God does everything He does for His own glory. But specifically to what you say about "screwing the rest," well, read what Paul says in Romans 1:18-32...
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    Romans 11 and the real Replacement Theology

    Nope… No need… Well, yes… LOL! Maybe you missed it, Peter. I said that I agree that God has called everyone, but that is true only in a certain sense, that being that there is, many times over, an outward call to repentance and belief. This is the outward call to God’s salvation, and it is...
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    Romans 11 and the real Replacement Theology

    I don't think he "side-stepped" the question, Fullness Of The Gentiles, but he didn't directly answer it. In post #933, he quoted Romans 10:1-3 and highlighted 'Israel,' 'they,' and 'them,' indicating the equivalency of the three, that each of the three refer to the same group of people...
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    Romans 11 and the real Replacement Theology

    That's exactly what it is. Romans 9-11 is about God calling His people Israel, His elect. He has mercy on whom He will, compassion on whom He will (Paul, quoting Moses, who quotes God in Exodus 33:18, in Romans 9:15, and restating it emphatically in Romans 9:18). And God's elect, while people...
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    The Alternative to a Rapture

    Well, what about the rest of the world...? Will there be no one anywhere else other than... You know, Jesus did say, "Blessed are the meek, for they shall inherit the earth" (Matthew 5:5)... It does no such thing. We will go out ~ up ~ to meet Jesus in His coming, but there is nothing...
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    The Alternative to a Rapture

    Much agreed. There is a sense in with it has been fulfilled, but similarly a sense that it has not yet been fulfilled: It has been fulfilled in the sense that the time is now here, and that this is what is happening... God is putting His laws into our minds, writing them on our hearts, and He...
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    Romans 11 and the real Replacement Theology

    I would say, Ziggy ~ and you might agree ~ that... Well, you're talking about gifts of the Spirit, which Paul talks about in Romans 12 and 1 Corinthians 12. And I agree, but I would say that none of us are limited to one spiritual gift, but that one or two may be far dominant to the others in...
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    The Alternative to a Rapture

    Well, hard-headedness is hard to overcome. :) Something else that what others wrongly think they mean, yes. They impose things on these plainly stated Scriptures, inadvertently making them into something other than they are. And in doing so, very often they inadvertently make other...
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    Romans 11 and the real Replacement Theology

    He certainly did, yes. No, but He surely called many ethnic Jews to be Christian, as you said. And as such they are Jewish Christians. God calls folks from every tongue, tribe, and nation. Ahhhhh, here we go. Yes, God calls everyone in a certain sense ~ the general call of the Gospel is to...
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    Romans 11 and the real Replacement Theology

    Yeah I say much the same. Thanks Paul. And Peter. And Isaiah. And a host of others. But really, thanks be to God, Who is really the Author of His Word. Grace and peace to you.
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    Romans 11 and the real Replacement Theology

    John 1:3, Peterlag, says ~ and again, I'm quoting ~ "All things were made through Him, and without Him was not any thing made that was made." All things means all things, Peterlag, not, somehow, "all things except for one thing." In effect it does, because in John 1:14, John says, "And the...