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The Eucharist of the Catholic Church: Aren't the bread and wine physical objects which are worshipped?

"The holy, great and universal synod, by the grace of God and by order of our pious and Christ-loving emperor and empress, Constantine and his mother Irene, assembled for the second time in the famous metropolis of the Nicaeans in the province of the Bithynians, in the holy church of God named...

Job has a good reply in post #38. I'm not familiar with the *alleged falling away*. When I say the *god you worship*, I'm admitting I don't worship the same god as the Catholic Church, that's all. And it looks like the Second Council of Nicaea does command (require) the veneration of images.

Not quite the same, according to the Second Council of Nicaea. Images are commanded to be venerated, by the god you worship. It is not optional, nor the same as Protestants liking statues of the reformers.

I have enjoyed reading many of your posts. Go with God.

I agree with #1. But why would a pagan (for instance) *mean to replace the one true God*, since they do not believe in the one true God?

What is the effect on the parishioner when a Eucharist is faulty?

Since this is your Thread, would you allow me to post one example of "bashing"?

Does the Catholic Church acknowledge the validity of the Orthodox Eucharist, even though they have an "erroneous understanding of that sacrament"? (follow-up question): If so then, would many (most?) of the Orthodox faithful be blaspheming God if they do not believe in Transubstantiation?

Here is James White's response to Dave Armstrong: James White Promotes Worship of John Calvin! - Alpha and Omega Ministries

This from Jimmy Akin, on May 3,2016: "What if my priest doesn't believe in transubstantiation? Does the consecration still take place?" The answer is that it does. It is not necessary for the priest to have the specific intention that transubstantiation take place so long as he has the...

Thank you for your response. So, if a Catholic Priest does not "intend to do what the Church intends" at the words of Consecration, that particular Mass is invalid?

This question concerns issues between the Catholic Church and the Orthodox Church (Eastern, Russian, etc.). If the Orthodox have a valid Eucharist and a valid Priesthood, then I assume the elements of the Eucharist are transformed in the Orthodox mass the same as the Catholic mass. If that is...

"grace that is given to us,..." (from Romans 12) "for to one is given the word of wisdom..." (from 1Corinthians 12) The gift of teaching is "grace that is given", so the gift is not a work to learn or it would not be grace. It is given by God to whomever he feels like giving it to, not to...

Here is a sentence (?) by Mungo, posted recently: "If you follow the link about Ekkesia Living you are take to a site called cultofthelivinggod.com more like the 'cultofsatan' "

Does that mean the Council of Trent anathemas do not apply to Protestants?

Why did the Catholic Church remove the penalty of Excommunication from the Anathemas of the Council of Trent (and other Anathemas, as well)?

Habakkuk 2:2-4 2 Then the Lord answered me and said: "Write the vision And make it plain on tablets, That he may run who reads it. 3 For the vision is yet for an appointed time; But at the end it will speak, and it will not lie. Though it tarries, wait for it; Because it will surely come, It...

"bbyrd009 said: ↑ the men who wrote Scripture were masters of dialecticism" I do prefer to believe it. But, it sure seems like many of the writers of Scripture were not masters of dialecticism, just ordinary shepards and such. Jonah? Amos? If one of the writers of Scripture was just a nobody...

Definition of dialectics: a discourse between two or more people holding different points of view about a subject but wishing to establish the truth through reasoned arguments. Most were not masters of dialectics.