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    Paul claimed 3 times that Rev 20:4 was a current reality.

    Are you joking? Have you never heard of a bodily resurrection?
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    Paul claimed 3 times that Rev 20:4 was a current reality.

    That is my position as well, Yet I tend to think we are missing something here, that the rest of the dead have an involvement in satan's little season. The question is, how so? I don't know yet. I'm guessing the OT might hold some clues, though. Such as Isaiah 24:21-22, Ezekiel 38-39. Speaking...
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    Paul claimed 3 times that Rev 20:4 was a current reality.

    In your mind that explains that. What then explains the following since these are in the same pit satan ends up in? Revelation 9:1 And the fifth angel sounded, and I saw a star fall from heaven unto the earth: and to him was given the key of the bottomless pit. 2 And he opened the bottomless...
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    Isaiah 65:17 vs. Revelation 21:1. How many NHNEs does that equal?

    Here's one sure way to determine when the new earth comes. 2 Peter 3:13 Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness. Now ask yourself this. Once Christ returns will it or will it not be wherein dwelleth righteousness? Which...
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    Isaiah 65:17 vs. Revelation 21:1. How many NHNEs does that equal?

    Amil means the millennium precedes the 2nd coming. Premil means the millennium follows the 2nd coming. There is no such thing, nor has there ever been, an Amil who thinks the millennium is after the 2nd coming. My position is and always has been, the millennium follows the 2nd coming. It doesn't...
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    Isaiah 65:17 vs. Revelation 21:1. How many NHNEs does that equal?

    Apparently, you likely think the NHNE is instantaneous, that God just snaps His fingers, then just like that everything is brand new? No doubt God is able to do that. But would He do it in that manner? IOW, maybe the NHNE are a process that begins with A), for example, and is not finished in...
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    Paul claimed 3 times that Rev 20:4 was a current reality.

    Like you pointed out in another post, the moment satan is loosed, if the rest of the dead don't live again, this indicates it is then untrue that the rest of the dead don't live again until after the thousand years are finished. There is logic to your argument, I give you that. One problem is...
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    Paul claimed 3 times that Rev 20:4 was a current reality.

    I'm saying the rest of the dead have zero to do with satan's little season. They don't live again until the time of the great white throne judgment. The way they live again is by being bodily raised from the dead in order to stand before God fully bodily alive at this judgment. IOW, when they...
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    Paul claimed 3 times that Rev 20:4 was a current reality.

    What about this passage then? Acts 2:31 He seeing this before spake of the resurrection of Christ, that his soul was not left in hell, neither his flesh did see corruption. Unless one wants to argue that the soul and body are the same thing, this passage says soul not body. Or unless one...
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    Paul claimed 3 times that Rev 20:4 was a current reality.

    The heart of the earth couldn't possibly be meaning the tomb, though. The heart is in the center, therefore, making the heart of the earth to be meaning in the center of it. No way are any tombs that deep.
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    Paul claimed 3 times that Rev 20:4 was a current reality.

    One way to reason some of this might be like such. Initially there is one big group, they are all physically dead. Then the first resurrection occurs. Now some of this group of the dead are no longer dead, they are alive instead, and that the rest of the dead who were not part of this first...
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    Paul claimed 3 times that Rev 20:4 was a current reality.

    If all of that is true that His spirit ascended to heaven upon death why then did Jesus say, shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth? No way in a million years is the heart of the earth meaning up in heaven. Nowhere in the text below did Jesus ever claim He...
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    Paul claimed 3 times that Rev 20:4 was a current reality.

    I grasp your logic as to why you are reasoning some of these things in this manner. On one hand it tends to make sense, on the other hand it tends not to. I just don't see the logic in satan's little season occurring during the 7th trumpet? The 7th trumpet involves the wrath of God not satan...
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    Paul claimed 3 times that Rev 20:4 was a current reality.

    Revelation 6:9 And when he had opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of them that were slain for the word of God, and for the testimony which they held: 10 And they cried with a loud voice, saying, How long, O Lord, holy and true, dost thou not judge and avenge our blood on...
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    Paul claimed 3 times that Rev 20:4 was a current reality.

    It sounds like to me then that you take the 7th trumpet, when it begins to sound, to be meaning the beginning of satan's little season. How could it not be per this scenario the fact when the thousand years expire satan's little season begins? And that you indicate that the thousand years end...
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    Understanding the Prophecy of 70 Weeks

    It seems apparent that it can't be meaning worshiping saints when we already see things like the following recorded in Scripture that are against that idea. Acts 10:25 And as Peter was coming in, Cornelius met him, and fell down at his feet, and worshipped him. 26 But Peter took him up...
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    Isaiah 65:17 vs. Revelation 21:1. How many NHNEs does that equal?

    NHNE meaning new heavens and a new earth, in the event that is not clear to some what the initials are meaning. Isaiah 65:17 For, behold, I create new heavens and a new earth: and the former shall not be remembered, nor come into mind. Revelation 21:1 And I saw a new heaven and a new earth...
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    Paul claimed 3 times that Rev 20:4 was a current reality.

    Good points about spirit bodies. The only way I can see to rationalize this is like such. IOW, it looked like the following once their graves were opened and their bodies walked into the holy city and they were seen by others. Ezekiel 37:5 Thus saith the Lord GOD unto these bones; Behold, I...
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    Understanding the Prophecy of 70 Weeks

    Revelation 3:9 Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee. Why is it when this passage comes up, keeping in mind that Jesus is the speaker...
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    They will reign with Him a thousand years and making an unknown Greek out of the English New Testament

    I certainly don't agree with this. And neither does Paul nor the Bible. But I have already went over reasons why I don't in another thread.