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  1. Rich R

    A Form of godliness

    So God created the angels (spiritual beings) after Adam and Eve? I didn't realize you wondered whether or not I see a difference between being a son of God and a son of my earthly father. Really? You must have an incredible low estimation of me to even suggest I don't see the difference between...
  2. Rich R

    A Form of godliness

    Proverbs 8 is talking about wisdom (verse 1). There is no justification for changing that to Jesus other than a preconceived idea. Hebrews is one person talking to another. I just don't understand how anyone can read about one person talking to another person and come to the conclusion that the...
  3. Rich R

    A Form of godliness

    Of course I'm not qualified to rewrite "your" Bible. What's your point?
  4. Rich R

    John 1:1 - Jesus is the Father or he's not the one true God?

    I see it's quite impossible to have an intelligent conversation with you. I tried my best to work with you, but to no avail. I'll be blocking any further comments from you.
  5. Rich R

    A Form of godliness

    It is true that God, specifically Yahweh, created man in His image. Note verse 27 uses the singular, "His image," not "Our image." God is spirit (John 4:24) and that is His image. Man was originally created as body, soul, and spirit. Did you find anything on "the divine council?" I just Googled...
  6. Rich R

    A Form of godliness

    It takes minimal expertise to see the "el" in Samuel, Abiel, Uzzial, Uriel, and about a hundred other names. I didn't write the book. If I had written it, it wouldn't have been nearly as good! :) I'm just reading what's there.
  7. Rich R

    John 1:1 - Jesus is the Father or he's not the one true God?

    How come nobody else got knocked down when Jesus said ego eimi? He said it a bunch of times.
  8. Rich R

    John 1:1 - Jesus is the Father or he's not the one true God?

    Very well. Any comment on the actual content? What did you find out about how "ego eimi" is used in the scriptures?
  9. Rich R

    A Form of godliness

    Very concise summary. Too bad many discount history. The church had a history that went a certain way, believed or not. But as you pointed out, the scriptures themselves tell the tale. 2Cor 11:4, For if he that cometh preacheth another Jesus, whom we have not preached, or [if] ye receive...
  10. Rich R

    John 1:1 - Jesus is the Father or he's not the one true God?

    while "overt obnoxiousness might" be a bit overstated, if not colorful. :) I do relate to Romans 7. Paul wasn't exactly enamored with his flesh. I have Christ in me (Col 1:27) and can do everything he did and more (John 14:12). We are told to look at the things above (Col 3:1), so I do. I...
  11. Rich R

    John 1:1 - Jesus is the Father or he's not the one true God?

    There is a context when Jesus said, "I am." Jesus asked them who they were looking for. They said Jesus. Jesus simple responded, "ego eimi", which is almost always translated as, "I am he/her." All Jesus said was that he was the one they were looking for. Using that to prove Jesus is God is poor...
  12. Rich R

    A Form of godliness

    That's pretty obvious. Most Christians "know" Jesus is God before ever cracking the book, so they'll find it in there come hell or high water. I've been saying just that for some time now. Never mind the many clear verses that make a clear distinction between God and His son. Somehow (never...
  13. Rich R

    A Form of godliness

    Well, half an agreement is better than none! I understand what you are saying. I just think Jesus being God is a given to trinitarians (or those who believe Jesus is God) and then it is "found" in the scriptures. There is nary a scholar, trinitarian included, that will not readily admit that...
  14. Rich R

    A Form of godliness

    I think you can understand that the folks who lived 3,000 years ago in a culture radically different (Ancient Near East) than our Modern West might think differently, that their world view might be quite different than our own. The ancient Near East Jew looked at a word and thought one thing...
  15. Rich R

    John 1:1 - Jesus is the Father or he's not the one true God?

    Son of God! What's not to love! All of our bodies are vile and they'll stay that was until Jesus comes back and gives us a new one. Phil 3:20-21, 20 For our conversation is in heaven; from whence also we look for the Saviour, the Lord Jesus Christ: 21 Who shall change our vile body, that it...
  16. Rich R

    A Form of godliness

    Then you should know there are many people with the "el" as part of their name. A name is an abstract representation of a concrete person. While a parent might hope their child would live up to a name with "el" in it, i.e., be a godly child, it in no way defined the nature of that child. Not...
  17. Rich R

    A Form of godliness

    Is there a reason you can't look it up yourself? If so, I'll be glad to help, but it would be better if you did it yourself. It'd be a good application of 2 Tim 2:15 for you. I don't know you very well, but you do seem to be able enough to do that.
  18. Rich R

    John 1:1 - Jesus is the Father or he's not the one true God?

    True enough! But how does He give to us? Through His son. Rom 3:24, Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus: I've said a few times now that the word "through" indicates agency and that an agent is not the principle who sent him. True or false...
  19. Rich R

    A Form of godliness

    Maybe you haven't read the OT or the NT? Mathew is an OT quote. Did Joseph and Mary name him Jesus or Emanuel? In any case, a name does not make the one named that name. Living near the Southern border, I not infrequently run into someone name Jesus. None are my savior though.
  20. Rich R

    A Form of godliness

    Lookup all the usages of the word "Elhoiym" in the OT. You will find several gods called Elhoiym. They are all single entities.