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  1. Butch5

    OSAS Question

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  2. Butch5

    Is the Old Testament really the word of God?

    If it's not then there's not point in the New Testament. It's the fulfilling of the Old
  3. Butch5

    Proof that Jesus is God

    You may want to read 1 John 5:20 again. The true God there is clearly the Father. John makes that abundantly clear. And we know that the Son of God is come, and hath given us an understanding, that we may know him that is true, and we are in him that is true, even in his Son Jesus Christ. This...
  4. Butch5

    The Case For The Triune GodHead!

    What people my interpret as a Trinity symbol and the idea of God as three in one are two different things. The modern concept of the Trinity, three, coequal, coeternal, persons was not established as doctrine until the Fifth century in the Athanasian Creed. If we read this creed and the Nicene...
  5. Butch5

    The Case For The Triune GodHead!

    Why must we believe a 5th century doctrine by faith that no one can explain n those before didn't believe it?
  6. Butch5

    WE ARE NOT SAVED BY WORKS...WHAT DOES THAT MEAN?

    That whole idea is wrong. It comes from people who misunderstood the text. When Paul says we are not saved by works, he's referring to the Law of Moses. The context will show us that. The problem is that people take passages of Scriputre out of context and just make them say whatever they want...
  7. Butch5

    Hell Fire

    It's called translator bias. If you researched it you'd see that. Long before anyone becomes a translator they become a Christian. They're "told" what the Bible teaches. So, their beliefs are formed long before they ever translate. It's obvious that they arent going to translate something they...
  8. Butch5

    Hell Fire

    What this shows is that you don't understand the passages you quoted. I've already shown that the word soul is used two ways in Scripture. Concretely it means a living being. Abstractly it means life. 1 thes 5. Your life and body. Gen 35:18. Her life was departing. 1 Kings 17:22. The life...
  9. Butch5

    Hell Fire

    You just make it up as you go. The Bible said man is a living soul. That means the body is a living soul. It's not something like a ghost that live apart from the body. You can go on and on repeating the same things but that doesn't change what the passage says. There is nothing of man that...
  10. Butch5

    Hell Fire

    I've already shown you that aion doesnt mean forever. But, if you don't believe Jesus that's your prerogative.
  11. Butch5

    Hell Fire

    It's pretty clear that you don't hold the Scriptures as the ultimate authority. Thus there is really no basis for debate. The Scriptures plainly state that the man "became a living soul". The man is the body of dust. You deny that. The Scriptures state plainly that Jesus poured out His soul unto...
  12. Butch5

    Hell Fire

    Yeah, you keep saying it, but what you say doesn't align with Scripture. The body became a living soul. Are you going to believe the Scripture or not. That body, made of dust, became a living soul. You can believe whatever you want to believe but that isn't going to change what the Scriptures...
  13. Butch5

    Hell Fire

    Well, you're clearly not rightly dividing the word, because the word says the man, which you agreed was the body, became a living soul. "Cherry picking according to man's understanding"? Dude, your understanding is man's understanding. You, like everyone else, reads the Scriptures and...
  14. Butch5

    Hell Fire

    Translation, when a passage from the OT fits what you believe the men knew and when it doesn't they didn't know, right? That's a logical fallacy known as Cherry Picking. What did God breathe into the man? It wasn't a soul. It was His breath or spirit. Those two together BECAME a living soul...
  15. Butch5

    Hell Fire

    I thought you said those OT guys didn't really understand. You keep saying the same thing, but it isn't so. NOWHERE in Scripture doesn't say that God put a living soul into man. It says man BECAME a living. That's not my opinion. It's stated plainly in Gen 2:7. Anyone following this thread can...
  16. Butch5

    Hell Fire

    I wasn't. So your post had nothing to do with what I said.
  17. Butch5

    Hell Fire

    In the parable Lazarus and the Rich Man's bodies were carried to Hades. the Rich Man's eyes (body) saw Abraham afar off. The Rich Man's body felt the torments. Lifetime of his body They were separated because God has set a time that the priesthood will be in exile. Paul calls this the time...
  18. Butch5

    Hell Fire

    You disagree with Scripture? Isaiah plainly said that Christ poured out His soul unto death. Your posting of Hebrews 10 proves my point that a soul requires a body. It was Christ's body that was the sacrifice. That proves that a soul requires a body. It also proves that souls can die. You're...
  19. Butch5

    Hell Fire

    Your first statement makes a distinction that is not in Scripture. There is not a body of Man and a living soul of man. AS I've pointed out several times now, the man, which you agreed was the body, BECAME a living soul. The living soul is the BODY. You're trying to make the Scriptures fit what...
  20. Butch5

    Hell Fire

    Because the post you replied to was referring to testamtents. You go off on these trabbit trails and then expect people to follow you. My post said that the NT didn't take presence over the OT. The Old Testament is the 39 books given to Israel. The New Testament is the 27 books written after...