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  1. Naomi25

    Why I could personally never chose to be Catholic

    Could you perhaps explain a little what you mean about something being "ordained" here on earth and in heaven? I'm unsure what you mean when you talk of that. My first thought is that 'surely that can't be true all over', for indeed, there are many, many things the Church has done throughout the...
  2. Naomi25

    Why nobody understand the Three Angels Message

    Well...while I disagree with Pipiripi most definitely, I'm not sure how we can say that the understanding of who our God is is just a silly sidetrack and distraction. To worship our God, don't we need to know who he is? And if we are worshiping and praying to a God that is not revealed in...
  3. Naomi25

    Is The Rapture Theory Biblical?

    Hi! I just wanted to ask you about this. I know that as a general rule, what most Dispensationalists say about all the suffering during those last 7 years. They say that there is a difference, between the misery that people doll out on their fellow man, and the wrath that God will pour out on...
  4. Naomi25

    Jesus says look for these Signs to know when My Return is Near.

    What scriptural proofs????? You toss out scriptures, but I haven't seen a single one that supports your theory...and that's what I've been trying to tell you every post! It's like you've been posting a picture of a tree and going "ta da! Here is my proof that the sky is purple!" Your 1+1 is just...
  5. Naomi25

    Why I could personally never chose to be Catholic

    Hi BOL. Sorry it's taken me a while to get back to you, we've been having problems with our internet. I'm not quite sure how we can determine which 'type' of tradition Jesus had a problem with, be it little t or big, as the bible doesn't make that particular specification. What it does make...
  6. Naomi25

    Why I could personally never chose to be Catholic

    Hi BOL. Everything ought to be charitable, don't you think? It is a Christian board! I disagree with the RCC on several things, but I know honest, born again Christians are found within her. And, while perhaps I cannot put ultimate authority on church tradition, I certainly recognize that we too...
  7. Naomi25

    Why I could personally never chose to be Catholic

    If I may just toss out a thought about this...? It seems to me that your claim here about scripture not being the sole authority is an argument from silence. Does scripture need to state that it is the only writings from God? Do we need to have the obvious conclusions pointed out that there is...
  8. Naomi25

    Jesus says look for these Signs to know when My Return is Near.

    Okay. I'm going to make this as simple as I can. I am not "exalting" myself to the same 'level as Paul'. He is. Every time he says "us" in his letters, he does that. Does that mean I have the same gifts and calling upon my life as Paul did? Clearly not. But, as usual, you are mixing up salvation...
  9. Naomi25

    Jesus says look for these Signs to know when My Return is Near.

    One could argue, quite strongly, that these people were not true Christians to begin with. Too many bible verses corroborate. For the gifts and the calling of God are irrevocable. - Rom 11:29 "Irrevocable": not able to be changed, reversed, or recovered; final All those the Father gives me...
  10. Naomi25

    Jesus says look for these Signs to know when My Return is Near.

    You cannot just lay down names like the Patriarch's, the prophets and Apostles and go "ta da"...proof! That hardly constitutes proof! Yes, we can see they were elect, chosen by God before the foundation of the world for a specific purpose, or job. But Paul tells us the exact same thing in...
  11. Naomi25

    Two particular problems with dispensationalism...

    Well, to be fair, you did accuse me of not giving my evidence. Which I had. You just didn't like it. Or address it. And as my disagreeing with your interpretation of the new wine skins parable...you kind of rested your whole argument there on the fact that "new" didn't actually mean new...
  12. Naomi25

    The Olivet Discourse

    The best exegesis I've ever heard on this passage laid it out like this: Matt 24:4-28 are "The birth pangs of the Messiah", which are basically the signs that are characteristic of the whole period between Christ's two comings. Verses 15-21 describe a particularly sharp and specific birth pang...
  13. Naomi25

    Jesus says look for these Signs to know when My Return is Near.

    I find it interesting that many people who use these forums for a soapbox tend to phrase things: "What I showed you from scripture"....rather than just saying, "here's whats written in scripture", or "Here's what God says in scripture". But as for what you showed me, let's refresh: So...what...
  14. Naomi25

    Two particular problems with dispensationalism...

    I'm fairly sure that any "interlopers", should they choose, can read post #145, where I do, in fact, present scriptures. That you ignore those, but then go on to accuse me of presenting none, sets the tone for our conversation. If you are going to stoop to a theological form of "I know you are...
  15. Naomi25

    Two particular problems with dispensationalism...

    Oh golly. Are you one of those people who only accept the KJV as "reliable"? Also...why on earth do you feel, at this point, trading verses will do any good? I've given you plenty of verses talking about both "Old" and "New" covenants. But, more than that...more than just the words, and what...
  16. Naomi25

    Jesus says look for these Signs to know when My Return is Near.

    If you will recall, this conversation started because you warned that there is a particular 'group' of Christians who will be liable to be deceived in the last days. By definition, I would say that if someone is being deceived, then they are not choosing to walk away from the faith. And if...
  17. Naomi25

    Jesus says look for these Signs to know when My Return is Near.

    Wait! You say that there are not categories....that's something I've made up...put in your mouth. But you ARE saying there are groups. Which are entirely different?? You do know that a synonym for group is category, right? And, I most certainly did answer your question. If it didn't fulfill...
  18. Naomi25

    Two particular problems with dispensationalism...

    Well said. And can be said in return quite easily. Shall we start trading verses? To what end?
  19. Naomi25

    Jesus says look for these Signs to know when My Return is Near.

    Well see, now you appear to be trying to be sneaky, which I don't appreciate. You outright state in your previous post that within christian circles there are two types: those that are "chosen" who "cannot lose their salvation no matter what" and those who are "called" who are in danger of it...