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  1. Hillsage

    What Does 'Surely Die' Mean?

    You still didn't answer my other question from post 145. "What would the first death have been here." (In Gen 2:17) "And please provide a scripture." "Your corrections" were the first thing I did notice. I believe you know Greek much better than I. But I don't know where to draw the line...
  2. Hillsage

    What Does 'Surely Die' Mean?

    It does sadden me to hear your testimony. I say that because this is the 3rd forum I have truly spent at least some time. But nothing like the first two where I amassed thousands of posts before being kicked off And I always majored in the 'Unorthodox" I have always 'tried' to 'first' extend...
  3. Hillsage

    What Does 'Surely Die' Mean?

    Hello Jay, I don't see the "second death" mentioned there in Genesis, or any other book until The Revelation. What would the first death have been here in Genesis? And please provide a scripture. I know I give too much when I post, but you are not providing any. Name that/those scriptures you...
  4. Hillsage

    What Does 'Surely Die' Mean?

    We know that Jesus paid the price for sin.... • Spiritual death. Did Jesus 'die spiritually' for our sins on the cross? I know of no verse. • Separation from God? What verse backs that? Cain left the presence of the LORD and he wasn't even born in the Garden. Can we assume Adam took the...
  5. Hillsage

    WOMEN AREN'T TO SPEAK IN TONGUES IN THE CHURCH

    I have been taught, but not just by listening to teaching about tongues that scared me when I first heard it. I went home and studied it for a week. And I didn't just study by reading the written word, but by letting the Spirit of the spoken word speak to me during that week. Then I got it, a...
  6. Hillsage

    One Baptism. - What is it?

    Sorry, but I just remembered a book I have in my library. It was written by DEREK PRINCE and named FOUNDATIONAL SERIES. It's 600 pages long. On page 204 he names the 4 different baptisms he believes Heb 6;2 is talking about. And the 2nd baptism he deals with, I will quote; "..there is a type...
  7. Hillsage

    WOMEN AREN'T TO SPEAK IN TONGUES IN THE CHURCH

    You are from Nairobi in Kenya. What language are you referring to above Brother MJ? :contemplate: If you were a Jew on Pentecost, from where Kenya is now, you would have heard whatever language was spoken 2,000 years ago. What is your Christian experience so far? Do you go to a...
  8. Hillsage

    WOMEN AREN'T TO SPEAK IN TONGUES IN THE CHURCH

    1CO 14:18 I thank my God, I speak with tongues more than ye all: He speaks of his spirit's prayer language when he wasn't even in church. 1CO 14:19 Yet in the church I had rather speak five words with my understanding, that by my voice I might teach others also, than ten thousand words in an...
  9. Hillsage

    Few are saved.

    I read 'an opinion' only, from your #65 response. I posted 4 scriptures from "God's word" sitting on my desk, to support my opinion. My opinon disagrees again. Please show me one verse supporting your post or refuting my posted 4 verses. And now, you respond with nothing but another opinion...
  10. Hillsage

    Few are saved.

    Your understanding is based only upon OT verses. My opinion is that SPIRIT trumps SOUL in the NT. ROM 8:10 And if Christ be in you, the body is dead because of sin; but the spirit is life because of righteousness. 11 But if the spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you...
  11. Hillsage

    WOMEN AREN'T TO SPEAK IN TONGUES IN THE CHURCH

    The Gr. word "pneuma" is in chapter 14 six times and is not once is it even capitalized. But it is talking about empowerment given to us, from The Holy Spirit. 1CO 14:2* For he that speaketh in an unknown tongue speaketh not unto men, but unto God: for no man understandeth him; howbeit in...
  12. Hillsage

    One Baptism. - What is it?

    THAT'S correct. And I never said it did. The doctrines were plural in the context. Then I will post the same thing I did last time. If you still believe the way you did, we really just need to agree to disagree from now on. But I will ask you to remind me in the future if ever I try to talk...
  13. Hillsage

    WOMEN AREN'T TO SPEAK IN TONGUES IN THE CHURCH

    As do I, with the exception of your grammar above. Why are you capitalizing Holy Spirit when the scriptures only say "my spirit" and "spirit"? Even the cessationist (anti Charismatic/Pentecostal) translators of the bible) didn't capitalize. That is not The Holy Spirit in those verses...
  14. Hillsage

    WOMEN AREN'T TO SPEAK IN TONGUES IN THE CHURCH

    1CO 14:14 For if I pray in a tongue, my spirit prays but my mind is unfruitful. 15 What am I to do? I will pray with the spirit and I will pray with the mind also; I will sing with the spirit and I will sing with the mind also. I don't believe either of these two verses refer to the Holy...
  15. Hillsage

    One Baptism. - What is it?

    But none of those '5 literal baptism OCCURENCES' are literal foundations for the "doctrines" of the faith. That is the whole context of verse 1,2. It's doctrinal teaching, not doctrinal doing. Let's apply your reasoning above, for that 1 verse, to the whole context below. If your reasoning...
  16. Hillsage

    One Baptism. - What is it?

    The difference between "GOD could" and "GOD does" is this; If God 'DOES NOT', then it is not happening that 'you COULD', come to the saving knowledge of salvation. It requires REPENTANCE (1st baptism) first, to receive FAITH to believe unto the first salvation. That salvation being, the...
  17. Hillsage

    One Baptism. - What is it?

    So if you agree with Heb 6:2 that "baptisms" is plural, can we agree that ONE of 'those' "baptisms" (Plural) includes the "ONE BAPTISM of Eph 4, (whatever that baptism is???) I believe that's the logical and scriptural basis for me to believe and come from. I can't even add every other...
  18. Hillsage

    One Baptism. - What is it?

    I'm so overwhelmed here on the forum with 2 other threads that I have to ask; Did you like it when it was first posted in October? Or was it after a few days ago, when you asked me if I had posted anything earlier so I told you again about post #20? After missing so many posts yesterday, I'm...
  19. Hillsage

    One Baptism. - What is it?

    I'm not talking, or believing , any of these verses suggest GOD COULD allow anyone born again salvation, These verses confirm he DECIDES, He DETERMINES who will get saved. IOW you aren't refuting the definition of the Greek word which is falsely translated as "wishes" or "desires". And you...