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That objection assumes Revelation is meant to be read as a strictly chronological sequence. My position is that it is not. The fact that John sees the angels receive the trumpets after the seventh seal is opened only tells us the order in which he is shown the visions. It does not necessarily...

Do you agree or disagree that the sixth seal in Revelation 6 is describing the same time period and events as Matthew 24:29? I'm not asking how you interpret the sixth seal itself. That isn't the issue here. The only question is whether you believe those passages are parallel. If you do believe...

Obviously, you don't think Revelation is chronological from start to finish, the fact you interpret ch 19 and 20 in the manner you do. In your mind, why can there be parallels between ch 19 and 20 but there can't be any parallels between the first 6 seals and the 7 trumpets? How do you fail to...

I find it absolutely interesting that one can read it in that manner and not have to be Premil in order to do so. Or maybe you are Postmil? And if so, I'm not as familiar with Postmil as I am with Amil. For all I know, maybe Postmil, not Amil nor Premil, is the solution? Except I don't know...

I guess we just reason things in a different manner at times. If someone is insisting 2 accounts are parallel, the first thing I naturally do is look for things both accounts might have in common. But if I'm not finding anything both accounts have in common, why should I then disregard that and...

Mocking one's view of something should not be allowed, and that some of us are guilty of that very same thing at times, but just because one might do that at times, that hardly proves your point, though. Because I have noted in the past, Pretribbers mocking post tribbers in the sme manner you...

So why is it that Revelation 19 has not one single saint still remaining on the earth when they confront the beast and it's armies, but has all of them descending from the sky with Jesus? But Revelation 20 has saints still on the earth and being surrounded on the earth. There are no saints...

My position is that the seventh trumpet sounds during the sixth seal. But that doesn't appear to be your position. You said the trumpets follow the seals sequentially from a narrative perspective. If that's the case, then all seven trumpets would necessarily come after the sixth seal. In that...

Sometimes it's simply a matter of being logical about something. Let's look at from this angle again. Let's start here first. Mark 3:24 And if a kingdom be divided against itself, that kingdom cannot stand. Revelation 9:4 And it was commanded them that they should not hurt the grass of...

It's possible the fp might be human. But I don't see it making sense that the beast is also human. The beast has been around since the beginning of time, apparently. No human in this age can live for thousands and thousands of years.

I tend to disagree for some of the following reasons. In Revelation 9:11---They have as king over them the angel of the abyss. His name in Hebrew is Abaddon, and in Greek he is called Apollyon. The text identifies this figure as---an angel (or messenger), of the abyss, king over the demonic...

I have to admit, that slipped my mind. Your point in regard to terrorist and organized crime is certainly valid. But even so, assuming a millennium follows the 2nd coming, there is not one Scripture I'm aware of that indicates terrorists and organized crime is going to be an issue at the time...

If there is controversy over what is meant by the last trumpet, you can bet doctrinal bias has something to do with it then. You don't dispute that 1 Thessalonians 4:13-17 involves a trumpet? Right? And Paul connects a resurrection event with that of the last trumpet(1 Corinthians 15:51-57)...

Why are you assuming the city and temple in Revelation 11 are literal? The literal sense is not the only way to interpret the city and temple meant.

satan empowers the beast, not is the beast. satan is cast into the LOF where the beast and fp already are at the time, not is the beast. Revelation 13:2 And the beast which I saw was like unto a leopard, and his feet were as the feet of a bear, and his mouth as the mouth of a lion: and the...

As for the question about Micah 4:3 (they shall learn war no more), the issue is different. Even if books describing war still exist, that does not necessarily mean people are learning war in the sense intended by the prophecy. The Hebrew expression generally refers to training for warfare or...

Here's what we need to call it if we are going to call it exactly what it is. And that you need to call it this as well---"last trumpet/resurrection/rapture event"---IOW, 1 Thessalonians 4:13-17 and 1 Corinthians 15:51-57, for one. From now on let's all call it that, including you, exactly...

Because in my view the 7th trumpet is during the 6th seal and that the 7 vials of wrath are contained in the 7th trumpet. How can the DOTL not involve the fierce wrath of God? How can any of the vials not be involving the fierce wrath of God? Revelation 15:1 And I saw another sign in heaven...

But why do I need to do that in Revelation 8:2? Because I have no choice but to if the 6th seal is involving the 7th trumpet. It's mathematically impossible to go from seal 7 to that of trumpet 1 then arrive at trumpet 7 during seal 6. Obviously, 6 comes before 7, not after 7. It might be...

I would have never guessed that some of us have some of these things in common. We all need to start treating each other better, regardless. Some of us are going through some difficult times and we don't need to take it out on others indirectly. I'm sad that it ever got to this point to begin...