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    OSAS from the Gnostics

    And we have seen in this thread the knowledge some think they have about salvation being lost by some magical means, which is wizardry...or akin to it. Some can't seem to figure out how warped that belief is in relation to scripture, for if one has to RETAIN their salvation by their own efforts...
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    KEEP THE COMMANDMENTS

    It comes in many, many variants, but in a nut shell, its any and all beliefs rooted in the idea that the Church, the body of Christ, will replace, or be a part of, the promises made to Abraham and his descendants concerning the Millennial Kingdom and the new earth and New Jerusalem kingdom. The...
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    Not Contradictions but Rather Dispensations

    I follow my fellow Jew Paul's Gospel that was given to him by Yahshuah, which is salvation by grace through faith, and that not of ourselves lest we should boast. Those who think that they gain salvation by grace through faith, and then say, "...but you gotta live it...," they have a serious...
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    KEEP THE COMMANDMENTS

    You stated some good thing, but I would like to point out one thing, which is that when Yahshuah initially passed that cup, it was to Israel, not to Gentiles who had to join with Israel to partake of salvation and the promises and blessing through Abraham. Luke 13 reveals what was to come with...
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    KEEP THE COMMANDMENTS

    Those who have bought into replacement theology say the very same thing. BTW
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    KEEP THE COMMANDMENTS

    Replacement theology has many hidden sentiments and beliefs couched deeply within modern Evangelicalism and RCC dogma, with most of you remaining unaware of its rudiments in your beliefs. BTW
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    KEEP THE COMMANDMENTS

    You're right. You never did produce scripture where it says that Gentiles will replace Israel in the obtaining of the Kingdom yet to come at the Second Coming of Christ. The Kingdom will belong to Israel. The body of Christ will not be a part of that kingdom. That's what scripture teaches. BTW
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    KEEP THE COMMANDMENTS

    Many "Bible believers" believe what they want to believe, and add to scripture what isn't there, take away what they don't like, and call it good...like you. It's common and routine. The commandments also require a fencing around the perimeter of your roof, and that you abstain from various...
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    Youth and the Unending Cycle of Learning

    Given that most church organizations are more akin to Mausoleums of the sheeple who attend and support them. They love hearing the numerous, false doctrines such as replacement theologies wrapped up in spiritual sounding platitudes that appeal to their flesh and pride. It's no surprise, then...
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    KEEP THE COMMANDMENTS

    That's nothing but a repeated non-answer to my question. BTW
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    KEEP THE COMMANDMENTS

    As is typical of those who have no sense of responsibility for backing their claims, you refuse to offer evidence for the alleged connection between what John stated by inspiration and that Cup in relation to the new covenant. Your words are so very typical indeed of the replacement theology...
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    KEEP THE COMMANDMENTS

    Since you ignored my asking you about John 3:16, let's show here how you have twisted the scriptures by adding your own spin to it by way of eisegetical hermeneutics: Notice in that verse and its surrounding context that His blood is the only aspect of that cup that has spilled out upon us all...
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    KEEP THE COMMANDMENTS

    Given that you failed to answer my question about John 3:16 that you threw out there in hopes that all would swallow it blindly, not noticing your blind indifference to what scripture actually states, I'm seeing your position more clearly. You appear to have swallowed replacement theology crap...
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    KEEP THE COMMANDMENTS

    Please quote from there where it allegedly claims that we today are under the fullness of the New Covenant. Stick to context please, rather than to add to it something that's not stated. John wrote that to Israel given that he was one of the apostles to Israel, not the Gentiles. If you believe...
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    KEEP THE COMMANDMENTS

    Many Christians are taught that the Church today—the Body of Christ—is “under the New Covenant,” but this idea creates doctrinal confusion when examined in light of Pauline truth. Here are some key falsehoods tied to that belief, with Scripture to contrast them: 1️⃣ Falsehood: The New...
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    KEEP THE COMMANDMENTS

    Nope. The New Covenant is not yet in effect. Stick with the Gospel of Grace given to Paul for all of us today in this dispensation of grace. BTW
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    KEEP THE COMMANDMENTS

    1. Definition & Context When Jesus spoke of “the cup of the new covenant” at the Last Supper (Luke 22:20; 1 Corinthians 11:25), He was referring to the covenant promised in Jeremiah 31:31–34 — made with the house of Israel and the house of Judah, not with the Gentiles or the Body of Christ...
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    Jehovahs Witnesses Who Left the Faith and Never Looked back

    I was once in a cultic, false religion that demanded blind obedience and acceptance of all that came from its Geritol-laced leadership in Salt Lake City and the local stakes, with some of the leaders teaching us crying while divulging their not knowing if they were ever going to make it to...
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    KEEP THE COMMANDMENTS

    Jesus did indeed try to teach us Israelis to seek the keeping of the Law of Moses. In the seeking, THAT is where our faith was to be demonstrated, even though, as some have stated, we could not keep the Law in the perfection as did Yahshuah. Given that the Lord looks upon the heart, our ancient...
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    Youth and the Unending Cycle of Learning

    Youth—whether teenagers or young adults—often have enthusiasm, energy, and optimism, but there are many aspects of life they haven’t yet had the experience to fully grasp. This isn’t necessarily a flaw, it’s just a part of growing up, but it does mean that some lessons can only be learned over...