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  1. Spiritual Israelite

    The Conundrum of Zechariah Ch. 14

    You misunderstood the question. What he was asking you is if you have any New Testament scripture to support your belief that Zechariah 14 relates to the second coming of Christ. How do you interpret this passage: 2 Peter 3:10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night, in which...
  2. Spiritual Israelite

    The Conundrum of Zechariah Ch. 14

    No, here you go again. Says the guy with zero spiritual discernment who has been deceived by the spirit beings Satan and demons to think that they don't exist. There are no references in scripture anywhere to a spiritual or heavenly Judea. A heavenly Jerusalem, yes, but not a spiritual or...
  3. Spiritual Israelite

    4. Revelation: Christ the Judge.

    How about accepting what John 5:22 explicitly says without causing other scripture to contradict it? How does the Father judge? Through His Son. Acts 17:30 Truly, these times of ignorance God overlooked, but now commands all men everywhere to repent, 31 because He has appointed a day on which...
  4. Spiritual Israelite

    Both Pretribbers and Preterists are clearly wrong that great tribulation begins with the DOTL.

    You absolutely did not. Not specifically at all. All you did was share some of your beliefs without specifically addressing anything that I said.
  5. Spiritual Israelite

    Both Pretribbers and Preterists are clearly wrong that great tribulation begins with the DOTL.

    A new man is male, but that doesn't keep you from understanding that the new man represents the church/body of Christ. This argument simply is completely invalid and you need to stop trying to use it. Did you not see what I showed you in my previous post? ALL scripture is the basis of my...
  6. Spiritual Israelite

    Both Pretribbers and Preterists are clearly wrong that great tribulation begins with the DOTL.

    Agree completely. I just pointed this out to her, also. Huge mistake there. I hope she's humble enough to take that one back. Looks like she forgot about this passage when she said that. 2 Timothy 3:16 All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training...
  7. Spiritual Israelite

    Both Pretribbers and Preterists are clearly wrong that great tribulation begins with the DOTL.

    Nonsense. Is there some reason why you didn't bother specifically addressing even one thing I said? I specifically address every point you make. You specifically address none of mine. Is that how you think discussions on this forum are supposed to be? The Catholic Church is nothing, but the...
  8. Spiritual Israelite

    Both Pretribbers and Preterists are clearly wrong that great tribulation begins with the DOTL.

    So, you correctly see the new man (body of Christ/church) as an "it", so why do you insist that the bride of Christ has to be considered female rather than as an "it"? Israel includes males, right? So, why do you dismiss the idea of the church being the wife/bride of Christ just because males...
  9. Spiritual Israelite

    Both Pretribbers and Preterists are clearly wrong that great tribulation begins with the DOTL.

    I did not say we are females. I mean, you are a female (haha), but I'm not saying we in the church are all females. Please do not try to speak for me in terms of what I believe. You have shown many times in the past that you do not understand some of the things that I believe. So, again, please...
  10. Spiritual Israelite

    Both Pretribbers and Preterists are clearly wrong that great tribulation begins with the DOTL.

    Why didn't you address anything I said in post #432? Are you somehow not aware that there is a lot of symbolism in the book of Revelation? Why would you just assume that Revelation 14:3-4 is literal? Why would there be a special group of God's people who are male virgins? Does that line up with...
  11. Spiritual Israelite

    The Conundrum of Zechariah Ch. 14

    You have to wonder at this point. He tries to say that the Judea that Jesus mentions in the Olivet Discourse is spiritual or heavenly Judea. But, nowhere does scripture ever refer to a spiritual or heavenly Judea.
  12. Spiritual Israelite

    The Conundrum of Zechariah Ch. 14

    I referenced more than just Acts 1:11 in my post. Also, it says nothing about Jesus standing on the earth in Acts 1:11. Please read all of it and address what I said. Or, at least tell me how you interpret the following passage... 2 Peter 3:10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the...
  13. Spiritual Israelite

    Both Pretribbers and Preterists are clearly wrong that great tribulation begins with the DOTL.

    Yes, it is. There's a few things you should notice about the list of 12 tribes in Revelation 7. The tribe of Dan is missing from the list, which is never the case in the Old Testament when 12 tribes are listed. Both the tribe of Joseph and the tribe of his son Manasseh are listed with Joseph's...
  14. Spiritual Israelite

    The Conundrum of Zechariah Ch. 14

    When that happens repeatedly, you have to wonder if it's on purpose or not rather than it just being a case where he's not reading what you're saying carefully or that he just lacks basic reading comprehension skills. As for me, I'm having no trouble understanding what you're saying at all. I...
  15. Spiritual Israelite

    The Conundrum of Zechariah Ch. 14

    Please address what I said first before asking me questions. As I've already told you before, I'm not interested in having a discussion where I address your points and answer your questions, but you don't address my points and answer my questions.
  16. Spiritual Israelite

    The Conundrum of Zechariah Ch. 14

    Someone who has been deceived by the spirit beings Satan and his angels/demons into believing that they don't exist is trying to say that someone else is confused. That's rich. Honestly!
  17. Spiritual Israelite

    Both Pretribbers and Preterists are clearly wrong that great tribulation begins with the DOTL.

    Yep. Scripture only teaches that He is coming again once. This three comings (two in the future) idea only comes from someone's very active imagination. Acts 1:9 Now when He had spoken these things, while they watched, He was taken up, and a cloud received Him out of their sight. 10 And while...
  18. Spiritual Israelite

    Both Pretribbers and Preterists are clearly wrong that great tribulation begins with the DOTL.

    It's very clear what you are saying, which is simply the same as what Jesus said, which was that the flood killed them all (took them all away - all except Noah and his family), yet this guy still asks if you're saying they all died before the flood. He seems to be making no effort at all to...
  19. Spiritual Israelite

    Both Pretribbers and Preterists are clearly wrong that great tribulation begins with the DOTL.

    No one would be dumb enough to try to prove something ridiculous like that, including him. How are you getting that from what he said? He came nowhere near saying anything like that. Obviously, all unbelievers died when the flood occurred, not before it occurred, as Jesus pointed out and as we...
  20. Spiritual Israelite

    Both Pretribbers and Preterists are clearly wrong that great tribulation begins with the DOTL.

    Please pay closer attention to what he and others are actually saying. He said nothing about anyone being taken and destroyed BEFORE the flood. He showed how Jesus said that unbelievers were taken away and destroyed BY the flood. Not BEFORE the flood. Come on. Read what people are saying more...