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yep So basic There are reasons why the replacement doctrine adherents modify the bible. The 144k are a huge setback to their folly. They have embraced a doctrine that can not tolerate their existence So they get real creative of how Rom11 and the 144k are Gods mistake when he vividly declared...

Romans 11 blows your entire theory out of the water. You and all the replacement extra biblical adherents.

Then straight to the wedding room. Heaven Mat 25. Bible fact Solid

Nope. The bible says they overcame the AC and the mark via martyrdom. Bible = take it or die You = bible not true

Postribbers belive they will escape the stalking and capture of the AC. They are escapists Oh the irony!

Bingo You just caught on. Your doctrine REQUIRES a change in Gods word. Yes indeed . You are correct for once!!! There is no postrib rapture because you either take the mark or die. It is plain and vivid. We see the martyrs in rev early on DURING THE TRIB. IN HEAVEN IN HEAVEN!!! So many they can...

Postribbers are escapists. they think that they will be present during the Great Tribulation and even after all the Wrath, and somehow when Jesus comes on the white horses, I suppose they will jump on some riderless horse and come back, like do a U-turn, come back to earth but the only way that...

Bible=all You= about 10 people running from cave to cave to escape what 99.9 % of martyrs did not escape. Yep you will hide to ESCAPE martyrdom Oh the irony.

How biblical is that? The bible destroys your theory. Lot Noah The baby Jesus Oh, and what about the Jews ushered to safety to ESCAPE the devil , possibly to petra, where the devil sends a flood after them in rev?

Any time you see "then" it is a timeline. I don't need "then" for every reference to timeline. Timeline is there . But since you skip verses, and deny the separate comings, your starting place is compromised. For example; the concept of "firstfruits" is not understood in your doctrine. Neither...

Is rev 14 when Jesus COMES during the trib to gather the Jews, the same as His coming post wrath on white horses with the saints?

This is yet another dilemma for anything but pretrib rapture. That the other positions place the rapture as predictable.

And yet y'all use "last trump" ,(which is predictable), as your banner and foundation, once the AC arrives.

Actually it does. No brainer

Noah was a prejudgment dynamic. "Prewrath" doctrine would need noah in a "correct" setting of the AC killing all on the planet refusing the mark. ..nope Noah is a pretrib rapture dynamic.

...as you sit there watching and waiting for the AC. According to you Jesus will only come on the white horses after the gt. In your mind, the coming of Jesus is years off and it would be ridiculous to watch and wait. That is sad. Even the 5 foolish virgins had enough revelation to watch and wait.

The second coming is post wrath. Huh???? You argued over and over that there is only one coming and that is the rapture

Far far far from it. Baptism is the profession and seal of a previous work in a believer.

Is rev 14 the second coming on white horses?

What you are doing is ridiculous. You have postribber believers as superior to pretribbers. You actually filter every comment through that prism. Here you are, not waiting for Jesus, but the AC. Then you bragg about your superiority as if your doctrine automatically determines that we are so...