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Speculation isn't proof. From the statements you've made here you cannot even know if you are saved now. Most Christians live a fair amount of time during which they experience trials and tribulation. There is no way you or anyone else can say that a person who says they believe today, doesn't...

The formattng isn't working properly so my response is in red. No matter how much evidence I provide you, you will not receive it because you seem to have a predisposition against accepting ti. Let me try one more time to provide biblical evidence that those who have died and their bodies...

I understand what you're discussing, however, that is not what Paul is discussing. Even in the passage where you claim he's addressing life after death, he is addressing the resurrection. 13 And since we have the same spirit of faith, according to what is written, "I believed and therefore I...

I've not added anything. if you've concluded that a person can't stop believing you'll need to prove that from Scripture. The logical thing is that I can stop believing anything I want to. If you're gonna claim that this one subject is beyond that you'll need to prove it. However, as I said in...

Sure there is. 15 while it is said: "Today, if you will hear His voice, Do not harden your hearts as in the rebellion." 16 For who, having heard, rebelled? Indeed, was it not all who came out of Egypt, led by Moses? 17 Now with whom was He angry forty years? Was it not with those who sinned...

Your statement is a logical fallacy. A person cannot turn from where they never were. It's not possible to fall away from where one has never been. Jesus Himself said that some believe for a while and in time of temptation fall away.

You can reject it. However it is a logical question. I don't see how you can claim something that was said to have been done by God in one specific church 2000 years ago. It's all about context.

And that none of them can be lost is assumed. Yes, the believer is sealed until the day of redemption. However, the one who used to believe is not. You keep talking about the believer, that is a straw man. If you want to prove OSAS you have to prove that a person cannot turn away. Yet, we have...

Where do you find that first statement in Scripture? How can one stop believing? There are lots of ways, the bottom line is they turn away from Christ.

I agree, however, that's not the issue. The issue is the one who stops believing/trusting. In this passage believes is a present tense participle. It literally translates "is believing." Here is Young's Literal Translation. YLT John 5:24 'Verily, verily, I say to you -- He who is hearing my...

It depends on what the sentence says. However, just because the words are in the same sentence doesn't mean salvation can't be lost. Besides you keep going back to the believer. Who is saying the believer will be lost? Not me. As I've said its the believer who rejects Christ.

Not at all. I asked a logical question. The verse you quoted was written to a Church about something God had done in that church about 2000 years ago. What does that have to do with a Christian today. If I quoted this from an American history book would you apply it to Americans today? George...

The straw man is created to deal with those passages. As I said, the arguments are either passage out of context or fallacious.

You've posted passages but none say that salvation can't be lost. As I pointed out the idea is inferred yet you've not explained how you've drawn that inference. we can go through those passages one at a time if your willing to explain how you've drawn the inference.

You gave me the opinions of three commentaries. How is that evidence of what Paul said? Yes, I asked you what does what Paul said to the Christians at Philipi have to do with modern Christians. Paul said to the Chrsitians in the Church at Philipi that he was confident that God would continue the...

OK, what do these opinions have to do with it? From their statements is seems they're not real sure what Paul meant. Either way, the good work that God began was in the Philippian church what does that have to do with believers today?

This is speaking of one who believes in Jesus. I don't think anyone said a believer will be lost. It's the one who stop believing/trusting.

John 6 in context is speaking of the apostles and some disciples. It's not a statement about Christians. That can be seen in John 17. Even in the passage you posted. In this passage Jesus speaks of those given to Him in the past tense. He says, 12 While I was with them in the world, I kept...

I'm not sure how this is relevant.