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Nope You reject the obvious. Pssst...they are the ONLY one mentioned because the church is not there. Not only that, but they are firstfruits, and are separate from anyone else. Also factor in that they are in heaven, taken from the earth, DURING the GT. ...and that is just a few components off...

Hmmm You answer in context is proclaiming your doctrine as devine? Omission if verses is your doctrines incubator. Omit the pretrib rapture verses... And....POOOOF.. a postrib rapture magically appears. You are backed into a proverbial corner with the "one coming" nonsense

Jesus used lot as a TIME REFERENCE of His coming. You do realize, no matter the ingenious creativity, it completely destroys any hope of "one coming"???

So, as stated earlier, there is nothing anywhere pointing to a postrib rapture. Maybe 1 peter 4? That could be twisted into some postrib rapture? Nope, just more demonstration of the postrib rapture fallacy and error.

The 144k What a roadblock for the weak postrib rapture doctrine.

It is literal as the bible depicts. Clue The flying scorpions. " dont hurt the grass or the trees." What is that "spiritually" and who are you to make anything literal into some spiritual deal????

You always go to the belittle gig. That is the low road.

Point me to where you came to the conclusion it can not be anything but spiritual

The postribbers overplayed their hand. What a quandary, to position oneself outside the Word with the singular trap of "He only comes once...and that is the rapture" A babe in Christ with a bible can see that is wacko.

Yet another thing that is impossible to miss. It is 2 SEPARATE gatherings. No way to make it into something else. It even says in romans "..till the time of the gentiles is complete" and in ch 11 that he will bring the Jews in last.

Nope, nope, nope Christ the firstfruits is in heaven. We, the church are "MAIN HARVEST". The 144k are firstfruit JEWS. It is impossible to miss. It is EXPLICITLY spelled out and listed. SMH

Bingo. Looks like you read it just like what it says. Others reject it, opting for a cunning "spiritual" reframing of the 144k to fit their doctrine.

Bingo. Looks like you read it just like what it says. Others reject it, opting for a cunning "spiritual" reframing of the 144k to fit their doctrine.

You see him in millions of horses in rev 19 You see him on a cloud with a sickle in rev 14 He said he comes before the trib in mat 24 That is the bible

Rev 14 Mat 24 Rev 19 More than one coming. Game Set Match.

You ignore the three comings of scripture. Use that false starting place. Then procede to connect the dots. Just plain ludicrous

Correct The five foolish virgins r believers

so watching for. Jesus would be wrong in your book. In fact , all postribbers are "correctly" watching for the AC

REV 14 is the nuclear bomb to the man made postrib rapture silliness. They have no place to go once rev 14 is invoked. It is appalling that they need it changed as well as Jesus words in mat 24 and 25.

WOW You reframe. Go to the next point Reframe Repeat. SMH